What Is Worse Than Balding Self Esteem Wise?

JeanLucBB

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I was just watching this thread again. I still don't know why he didn't just give up. For me, giving up is way better than being a pathetic, cringey coper. At least my pride and self-respect would still exist by giving up.

Trust me man, you can mentally prepare for norwood 3+ and tell yourself you're giving up, but when it actually happens you're going to regret not getting on finasteride and just trying out a few hookup apps while you had the chance.

Self-respect means nothing if its a delusion.
 

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Trust me man, you can mentally prepare for norwood 3+ and tell yourself you're giving up, but when it actually happens you're going to regret not getting on finasteride and just trying out a few hookup apps while you had the chance.

Self-respect means nothing if its a delusion.
The dude has many problems aside from baldness. I didn't mean we should give up on treatments, but just not to try very hard to compensate for genetics flaws.
 

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The only thing that seemed horrible enough would be being publicly accused or known as a pedophile.

But then I remember that balding makes you look like a pedo anyway.

So there is nothing worse.

i suspect actually being abused by a pedo is probably worse

anyone watched the pedophile hunter in the uk.

what a fucked up docu lol
 

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i suspect actually being abused by a pedo is probably worse

anyone watched the pedophile hunter in the uk.

what a fucked up docu lol

True. And pedos probably don't care that their pedos and have normal self esteem. So I guess being a balding pedo victim is the worst. This thread is bleak.
 

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There is no such thing as self-esteem.

You can't decide whether you feel good about yourself or not.

If you feel inferior because you're bald(ing), it's because you are inferior in some way. Think about it.

It's never a matter of subjectivity, value is value, strength is strength and humans internally and externally recognize it without a shred of conscious effort.

This is why you have these morons showing us Tinder experiments where a male model cleans up the place despite telling all the girls he's a huge piece of sh*t who hates himself and spends his days masturbating and playing video games.

And this works both ways, as PUA enthusiasts have quickly discovered. Behaving like a high-status wealthy and powerful playboy while you're unemployed and broke won't trick women into sleeping with you.

You don't get to decide what your value is, you don't get to "esteem" yourself.

Its usually based on whether you are loved and appreciated and attractive to others.

Thus, it is purely subjective
 

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There is no such thing as self-esteem.

You can't decide whether you feel good about yourself or not.

If you feel inferior because you're bald(ing), it's because you are inferior in some way. Think about it.

It's never a matter of subjectivity, value is value, strength is strength and humans internally and externally recognize it without a shred of conscious effort.

This is why you have these morons showing us Tinder experiments where a male model cleans up the place despite telling all the girls he's a huge piece of sh*t who hates himself and spends his days masturbating and playing video games.

And this works both ways, as PUA enthusiasts have quickly discovered. Behaving like a high-status wealthy and powerful playboy while you're unemployed and broke won't trick women into sleeping with you.

You don't get to decide what your value is, you don't get to "esteem" yourself.


I wish more therapists shared this view . I don't know if anyone else here has ever brought up hairloss in a therapy like scenario - but it's not a good idea. It's all about "acceptance" and finding the positives of it. At least on this website people acknowledge that if you have are pale with a baby face , headed to nw6 before age 30 you are screwed. These "professionals" would never admit to that. They just say that crap " everyone is beatiful " it's just hair.
 

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Being very short.
Virtually there is SOMETHING you can try for baldness:
- the "three bigs" if you are lucky;
- transplant
- wig

If you are very short, apart from the unlikely surgery to be taller, what are you gonna do?


As a short guy , it sucks and I would love to be taller . But compared to baldness it is a non issue

Now this might be different if I had an alpha male face , then the height would bother me more. I already have a beta face so it's not like I'd be pulling off that image. At least if your short women can still think of you as cute , as well as date shorter women .
 

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Virtually any psychological issue.

Besides that, being obese (which usually stems from a psychological issue). Even if you lost the weight, your skin is shot and stretched out. Is over for you.
Being really short as a man is doom in and of itself. Typically anything under 5'6 gets you laughed at by men n women alike. And women won't even consider dating you.

Outside of something obscene like being grotesquely ugly or something, balding is up there.

It's a shame that I feel compelled to wear hats when I go out to bars, etc, because without I'm immediately knocked down a couple of points n look a handful of years older. Women gauk at my hairline, as if to say, "he'd really be something if he wasn't so thin up there".
as someone who has diagnosed anxiety, probable OCD, likely personality disorder, and is considering getting on disability because im too mentally fucked up to get a job NO. just NO. lel. just LOL at an invisible issue that comes down to thinking irrationally being as bad as ACTUALLY BECOMING INFERIOR. and you GET NO SYMPATHY AND EVERYONE LAUGHS AT YOU AND STEREOTYPES YOU.

i mean if you arent bluepilled to hell and back baldness will greatly exacerbate your mental issues anyways

the do suck f*****g *** to be fair, but NOWHERE near as bad as baldness
 

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Actual psychologists who base their practice on solid science will have this view.

Self-esteem cannot be measured objectively, unlike IQ and physical attractiveness for example.

Good mental health professional all suggested that I have a hair transplants, bad ones were like "just sweep it under the rug! It's only a problem if you think it's a problem".

Because you know, that's surely the greatest thing to do for your mental well-being.

"Pretend it's not there, don't talk about it, you'll see, you'll feel better!"

Then you apply that advice, and everything seems peachy for a few days, until a group of people in a bar zero in on your bald head and start singing "HE HAS NO HAIR!", humiliating you in front of the whole world.

"What do I do Doctor, do I go on pretending the problem is not there!" These therapists should be ashamed of themselves.
Iq is a test score ranked among the people who took the test. This group ideally represents your nation as a whole. Your mood and test taking skills can affect your score. There's also different kinds of intelligence that IQ tests can't test for or score differently with. Like a test could weigh logical reasoning higher than verbal, or vice versa. And creativity is one kind of intelligence not measured by them.

However it does have significance considering its correlations between many important life outcomes. Like income, education, accomplishments and longevity. Many high IQ (or equivalent high test score) studies have many of the participants achieve huge things during its course. They became authors, scientists, inventors and Nobel winners.

http://www.nature.com/news/how-to-r...45-year-study-of-super-smart-children-1.20537

"With the first SMPY recruits now at the peak of their careers1, what has become clear is how much the precociously gifted outweigh the rest of society in their influence. Many of the innovators who are advancing science, technology and culture are those whose unique cognitive abilities were identified and supported in their early years through enrichment programmes such as Johns Hopkins University's Center for Talented Youth — which Stanley began in the 1980s as an adjunct to SMPY. At the start, both the study and the centre were open to young adolescents who scored in the top 1% on university entrance exams. Pioneering mathematicians Terence Tao and Lenhard Ng were one-percenters, as were Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg, Google co-founder Sergey Brin and musician Stefani Germanotta (Lady Gaga), who all passed through the Hopkins centre.

“Whether we like it or not, these people really do control our society,” says Jonathan Wai, a psychologist at the Duke University Talent Identification Program in Durham, North Carolina, which collaborates with the Hopkins centre. Wai combined data from 11 prospective and retrospective longitudinal studies2, including SMPY, to demonstrate the correlation between early cognitive ability and adult achievement. “The kids who test in the top 1% tend to become our eminent scientists and academics, our Fortune 500 CEOs and federal judges, senators and billionaires,” he says."


It's not that you need to be successful to be smart it's much closer to being that you usually need to be smart to be successful
 

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interesting exo factoid: rereading that post i was actually involved in the duke talent identification program when i was 12 in my north carolina of my USA lol. i took the SAT at that age when usually its taken by 16-18 year olds as a college admission exam

i don't think i scored high enough into the program though, altho i didn't study. thats why even though the SAT score IS closely correlated to IQ (its sometimes used as a stand-in for IQ in studies) its score wasnt entirely valid for me

now if i studied and went in with an ideal mindset, then yes the score would be valid (assuming everyone else studied and did their best too)

inb4 cope lol

man fuckin HairLossTalk.com reminding me of sh*t i havent thought about in more than a decade lol. who woulda thought
 
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