Wholllly Shiaat This Gyno On Bicalutamide, Help!!!

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Mate i was just expressing my opinion, as i said i won't feed your mental illness and either your frustrations, if you can't f*****g take an opinion or have a normal conversation, what's the point on staying on the internet ? I said before, i'm not judging, you can take and do whatever the f*** you like and want with your lives, it's not like it impacts me, i was just expressing my opinion in a friendly manner but it seems that you are so frustrated that you are taking everything everybody says personally... And it's understandable, you are 24/7 on a hair loss forum, without a life outside of it and i think if you get out now and see a real human your gonna faint because of the anxiety levels that are through the roof...
I have nothing with you and nobody here, regardless of your "regimes" you did nothing to me and i don't have any interests, but if you want to have a normal conversation first you need to learn how to have one in the first place!

Regarding medicine and drugs, when you will have a comprehensive experience about how the human body works and how this type of meds woks and for what they were made you will understand.. It's futile to read studies and think that you actually know on how they will affect your body on longer periods of usage, no study in this world can say on how everybody will react and none have a sureness on what parts of the body could react to them or how they could react to them.. Even Finasteride and Minoxidil have tons of effects on different humans that none know why or how they could get them, everybody is different and this studies are made on very small groups of people with different techniques of evaluation that have nothing to do with the real world and with all the people around the world that take them... Tomorrow somebody could develop something new from this drugs and nobody will believe them because it's not written in the studies or leaflets, it's futile to be blind and believe that ingesting tons of pills everyday at 18 years old will be just fine and that roses are red and you will live healthy and fine until the end of time... I know you all want your hair back or to keep it and besides the fact the there are some that are not even balding and take this kind of treatments, the rest get boobies and hormonal changes and a lot of body changes that with time will affect your life deeply, your gene and body will fight this meds like you have no idea, but this is not something most of you understand, not having a clue about how the human body really works, reading studies 24/7 on hair loss forums and advising one another like your some kind of scientists, even if most of you have not finished the college yet or dropped out of school, etc...

But as i said, it's your life, do what the f*** you want with it, who the f*** cares in the end !

Is this @ObsoluteTinker ? This has to be either that Aleksander person, or ObsoluteTinker because both of these people spoke exactly like this and they’re both banned. It’s easy to surpass a ban by using a VPN, and then creating another account.
 

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Actually it isnt an obstacle at all. I can take bica for years until I get married and decide to have kids. By then, I hope something comes out to at least maintain, if not, I would get off bica for a few months before conceiving then get on it no probs. I would loose some hair, but whats more important I would have had my 20s and some of my 30s all lived with a full head.
You talk like bica is a new drug that has not been tested and its sides are not known, which is the opposite of reality.

Or adopt... I am planning to adopt a girl, whenever I want kids. I refuse to spread my genetics!
 

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I'm not rejecting nothing, i just know what i'm talking about and have a very big experience with medicine, human body, etc and even if i know that not all drugs that are prescribed for different conditions are the best for them, i know for sure that this is not a drug for hair loss also and it can come with a lot of different life changing sides that 99% of people won't accept.. Why ? Different reasons that everybody has, that's the reasons stronger drugs that could actually help people regrow hair are not prescribed for hair loss in the first way... It's more complicated than it seems and because of the information we have now a days, because of the possibility of informing yourself and "changing" your gender also, it comes to everybody's perspective, perception and mindset on what they really want to do with their life.. There are people who could change their whole body just for hair but they are and will be only a minority, don't want to enter the conversation about the generation of incels today that are hanging themselves because they are not tall enough for women to like them, taking jaw changing procedures, etc ! I have a different perspective, different mindset, i come from a family of doctors, this is with what i occupy my time most of the day and i have a very vast knowledge on what i am talking about, but i have still much to learn.. And be sure that if something really good comes out for people to at least keep their hair, most of us would take it without even blinking but not like this, most of us, the majority, won't accept things that a lot of you will and vice versa... As i said, it comes to every individual and it's perspectives and perceptions, mindset, education, etc !
Having medical history doesnt mean anything. There are doctors with a full licence that dont know some drugs, we talk about here, exist. You will always have to learn, especially as a doctor.
Also, if there was a better drug for hair loss everyone would be taking it, is wrong. Example: dutasteride. Not approved for hair loss, because its not profitable enough. Really puts pharmaceutical's care towards us in perspective.
Maybe others cant handle it, but a mild/moderate gyno (which can be removed with a breast reduction surgery (cheaper than hair transplant)) in trade for a full head of hair for the rest of your life is a f*****g steal imo. Lost hair cannot be regrown as easily as maintaining it.
You can not give a f*** about hair loss, but with or without your fucks, it will negatively affect your life.
 

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Lol, poor kid, it's easy to spot your illnesses friend just looking at your post and comment history you don't have to be a scientist.. And it's not like your not 24/7 on this forum ! And regarding what you are talking there, i really don't know what you are talking about, i guess you think i am some guy who you had something with or something but i just made this account a couple of days ago because i was interest in finasteride personal experiences actually but i think this forum does not have the information i seek and i will get on with my life soon, not like we all have 24 hours a day to waste online! All the best

You are 100% @Alekzander. You type exactly like him, you respond to me exactly like he did, you end your messages exactly like he did and you constantly tell me that I have no life just like he did. And just to top the cake, you are even the same age as him.
 

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Yeah you are right, you caught me lol, it's not like anybody who is on this forums seeing you 24/7 in here can ever imagine that you actually have a life outside this forum, you are right my bad lol.. And this besides the multiple posts where you admitted that you have mental illnesses and not even you and besides that thread of yours on where you maybe think that nobody has access to it, the things i saw there lol.. Ok good bye and regards

Clocked it the house

Edit: Can I just emphasise that you are calling me 'mentally ill' and telling me I have no life yet you created a new account through a VPN. Regarding the whole 'mental illnesses', depression is something which a lot of people suffer with. I don't understand why you bring it up even when it's nothing to be ashamed of. And neither did depression mess with my ability of thinking, because going on anti-androgens is a wise choice in my case.
 
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It's very hard to speak with you guys and i will end it here because it seems that you do this all days and started to really think that this is the reality, but in reality, it's not.. First of all, dutasteride is approved, but only in Asia and other countries, one is because Asians have a bigger tolerance of sides, that you would have known if you only would have searched google before talking and as i already said, not knowing a drug as a doctor, drug that maybe was invented before you finished med school, that does not make you a bad doctor or that you don't know how it works or how the human body works... Regarding gyno surgery, again you have no idea how it works, and regarding how hair loss can impact everybody's life, again you have no idea, you can only assume that everybody has it like you and that's kind of it, but in reality 90% of bald men just live and don't give a f***, not all of us are incels that don't have nothing to do with their life except trying to change something that scientists and companies who have unlimited funds can't, at least not for now... But you are too young and your minds are not well developed yet and not will be anyways if you keep it this way and it's my fault that i'm giving you all this attention but i thought i have with whom to talk too and it clearly was a mistake.. I have to go now, don't bother responding cos i'm gonna block you and that other guy anyways, nothing constructive comes out of this and you very, very tiring, you need to have a lot of patience and time to keep talking useless things with a bunch of kids that don't understand more than their frustration and illnesses tells them... I really won't respond anymore so don't bother, good luck and all the best !
I know duta in asian countries (japan). But still, its not approved elsewhere. My point still holds.
Not all people react/want the same. You have that. But what you cant seem to accept is that hair loss will affect you negatively wether you care about it or not.
Also, you dont need to remove the glands to remove gyno, you can have a breast reduction surgery. I didnt even talk about full blown gyno surgery, only breast reduction surgery.
If you block us that would be perfect. This conversation is going nowhere.
 

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"Dutasteride was patented in 1996[49] and was first described in the scientific literature in 1997.[50] It was approved by the FDA for the treatment of BPH in November 2001 and was introduced into the United States market the following year under the brand name Avodart.[50] Dutasteride has subsequently been introduced in many other countries, including throughout Europe and South America.[50] The patent protection of dutasteride expired in November 2015 and the drug has since become available in the United States in a variety of low-cost generic formulations.[49]

It was approved for the treatment of scalp hair loss in South Korea since 2009 and in Japan since 2015.[51] It has not been approved for this indication in the United States,[6][17] though it is often used off-label.[19]"

Any sane person would do the same, it's clear that your only purposes on this site is to spread your mental illnesses and get attention and nobody is forced to accept that, that's why we have the block button... Your incel mentality is written in every line of your comments, imagine thinking that saying to others that you don't actually know that hair loss will affect their life negatively just because you think it or just because it affected your life negatively.. And it impacts a lot of people differently, it impacted me also but not at the point on where i would develop a mental illness that would ruin my life or that would not let me function properly or making me taking cancer drugs because i think i am better than doctors or scientists and thinking that i'm some kind of scientists because i read some studies...And you already admitted that you have BDD and that your not even balding so it's useless too feed your disease..Have a nice life and good luck
Only approved in Japan and South Korea for hair loss. Everything else you copied is irrelevant. Everyone knows Glaxo didnt continue phase 3 trials for duta because it was not profitable for them.
Two derms confirmed vertex diffuse thinning. You just pick what you want from my thread and use it to your advantage? You either get the whole story, or you dont. Dont come here and cherry pick my posts to fortify your arguments.
I am not smarter than a scientist. I simply am ready to go places you'd never think about even visiting. Because we are different. Not because I have a mental illness. In this case, hair loss, the cause is known: androgens. Its literally called ANDROGENIC Alopecia. Remove the androgens/effects of androgens on hair, you remove hair loss. Doesnt need to be a scientist to figure that out.
Also, from the start you keep insulting me. Mental illness, incels. gtfo mate.
 

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Your insulting yourself that's what you don't understand, the rest we just draw conclusions on your mentalities and statements, nothing else... Blocked, good riddance no point in wasting more time, it's well known that most of you are incels and have mental illnesses, BDD is a mental illness also like changing genders is one also, but what can you expect from people like you, they won't admit it anyways because your minds won't let you and the society accepts you because they don't have treatments for mental illnesses and not enough places to keep you locked away from it, that's why !
Whatever rocks your boat pal
 

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Your insulting yourself that's what you don't understand, the rest we just draw conclusions on your mentalities and statements, nothing else... Blocked, good riddance no point in wasting more time, it's well known that most of you are incels and have mental illnesses, BDD is a mental illness also like changing genders is one also, but what can you expect from people like you, they won't admit it anyways because your minds won't let you and the society accepts you because they don't have treatments for mental illnesses and not enough places to keep you locked away from it, that's why !
Lookism immigrants have invaded the borders here. Maybe Trump can help us by building a virtual wall..................................................:D
 

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Your insulting yourself that's what you don't understand, the rest we just draw conclusions on your mentalities and statements, nothing else... Blocked, good riddance no point in wasting more time, it's well known that most of you are incels and have mental illnesses, BDD is a mental illness also like changing genders is one also, but what can you expect from people like you, they won't admit it anyways because your minds won't let you and the society accepts you because they don't have treatments for mental illnesses and not enough places to keep you locked away from it, that's why !

I don’t have BDD, I am quite aware that hair loss is a legitimate medical condition to be concerned with, hence why it’s under the alopecia umbrella. I’m not changing genders, I just don’t need testosterone to be considered a male; neither do prostate cancer patients.

Nonetheless, ‘changing genders’ isn’t a mental illness. Gender dysphoria is the mental condition/illness, in which transitioning is the method to aid dysphoria. You can still have the appearance and hormonal profile of a male whilst suffering with gender dysphoria. That’s something I, and most of the other users of similar regimens, don’t suffer with. Therefore, you claiming that we have a mental condition or illness is irrelevant.
 

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I am amazed friend, i really am... I mean i know that the internet has changed lately and it's full of mental ill people but it's the fault of the ones who moderate this kind of forums also... This is not incels.com or what the f*** is it's name or any other forums that are made by incels themselves, first time i visited this forum a couple of years ago it was dominated by a majority of normal people who would have normal discussions and informative ones, but with the age lowering of Androgenetic Alopecia, it seems now it's dominated by mental ill incels who spend their whole life in here and it's not a problem you know how it is, it's their life in the end, but what happens if somebody takes their advises for granted and starts a regime with anti-cancer drugs, transgender regimes, etc ? I know that after the age of 18 you must be responsible for your own actions, but maybe some desperate kid who is loosing his hair like that one who says it's loosing his at 14 takes this delusional incels advises and ruins his life, who will be responsible for the outcome, who will take care of him, his poor parents what will they do, etc ?

I reported them, all 3 of them and i would have reported more from that hormonal thread of them but at least those ones stay there and don't encourage others, but this Ikarus, baba vanga and the other incel are way over the line and i encourage you all too report them so they can get banned because it's not normal to have this kind of people around hair loss forums.. They should be treated by psychiatrists under supervision, not left loos in the world so they can spread their illnesses all around !

Continue reporting us, because you are the one who decided to create a new account using a VPN because your @Alekzander account is banned.
 

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I am amazed friend, i really am... I mean i know that the internet has changed lately and it's full of mental ill people but it's the fault of the ones who moderate this kind of forums also... This is not incels.com or what the f*** is it's name or any other forums that are made by incels themselves, first time i visited this forum a couple of years ago it was dominated by a majority of normal people who would have normal discussions and informative ones, but with the age lowering of Androgenetic Alopecia, it seems now it's dominated by mental ill incels who spend their whole life in here and it's not a problem you know how it is, it's their life in the end, but what happens if somebody takes their advises for granted and starts a regime with anti-cancer drugs, transgender regimes, etc ? I know that after the age of 18 you must be responsible for your own actions, but maybe some desperate kid who is loosing his hair like that one who says it's loosing his at 14 takes this delusional incels advises and ruins his life, who will be responsible for the outcome, who will take care of him, his poor parents what will they do, etc ?

I reported them, all 3 of them and i would have reported more from that hormonal thread of them but at least those ones stay there and don't encourage others, but this Ikarus, baba vanga and the other incel are way over the line and i encourage you all too report them so they can get banned because it's not normal to have this kind of people around hair loss forums.. They should be treated by psychiatrists under supervision, not left loos in the world so they can spread their illnesses all around !
is this ur account bro? you guys are both 33, male
 

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I am amazed friend, i really am... I mean i know that the internet has changed lately and it's full of mental ill people but it's the fault of the ones who moderate this kind of forums also... This is not incels.com or what the f*** is it's name or any other forums that are made by incels themselves, first time i visited this forum a couple of years ago it was dominated by a majority of normal people who would have normal discussions and informative ones, but with the age lowering of Androgenetic Alopecia, it seems now it's dominated by mental ill incels who spend their whole life in here and it's not a problem you know how it is, it's their life in the end, but what happens if somebody takes their advises for granted and starts a regime with anti-cancer drugs, transgender regimes, etc ? I know that after the age of 18 you must be responsible for your own actions, but maybe some desperate kid who is loosing his hair like that one who says it's loosing his at 14 takes this delusional incels advises and ruins his life, who will be responsible for the outcome, who will take care of him, his poor parents what will they do, etc ?

I reported them, all 3 of them and i would have reported more from that hormonal thread of them but at least those ones stay there and don't encourage others, but this Ikarus, baba vanga and the other incel are way over the line and i encourage you all too report them so they can get banned because it's not normal to have this kind of people around hair loss forums.. They should be treated by psychiatrists under supervision, not left loos in the world so they can spread their illnesses all around !
I understand what you are saying but these guys are truly handicapped by hair loss. I have BDD and I know what goes thru their minds. But some of those guys do have legitimate significant hair loss. They may not have the true definition of BDD but they suffer from feeling like a fish out of water since most of their peers have significantly more hair. Some of them have very little hair loss so those people definitely show BDD tendency. However, most of them are fully aware of what they are doing and seem intelligent enough to know there could be consequences. I think the thread really represents the full impact hair loss has on those losing hair at a very young age. There should be some type of sticky that mentions that all these treatments should be done strictly under a care of a licensed physician and psychiatrist and no minor should consent to this type of treatment without consulting with his parents or legal guardian. Desperate people will always turn to desperate measures. However, once they hit rock bottom they will have to decide if they plan on staying there. Social media has definitely impacted this generation and it's not going to go away. People are going to have to take responsibility for their actions and educate themselves now at a much younger age if they want to survive in this world because these are the people that might be parents some day if they can take on the biggest challenge of their life. Being a parent definitely is something no person should take lightly.
 

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I understand what you are saying but these guys are truly handicapped by hair loss. I have BDD and I know what goes thru their minds. But some of those guys do have legitimate significant hair loss. They may not have the true definition of BDD but they suffer from feeling like a fish out of water since most of their peers have significantly more hair. Some of them have very little hair loss so those people definitely show BDD tendency. However, most of them are fully aware of what they are doing and seem intelligent enough to know there could be consequences. I think the thread really represents the full impact hair loss has on those losing hair at a very young age. There should be some type of sticky that mentions that all these treatments should be done strictly under a care of a licensed physician and psychiatrist and no minor should consent to this type of treatment without consulting with his parents or legal guardian. Desperate people will always turn to desperate measures. However, once they hit rock bottom they will have to decide if they plan on staying there. Social media has definitely impacted this generation and it's not going to go away. People are going to have to take responsibility for their actions and educate themselves now at a much younger age if they want to survive in this world because these are the people that might be parents some day if they can take on the biggest challenge of their life. Being a parent definitely is something no person should take lightly.
all my medications are prescribed by an endocrinologist and dermatologist and all my blood tests are being monitored.

Yeah, you got me, we are the only 33 year olds males on the planet and i made an identically account too talk to you and your friends lol.. I forgot to block you also sorry my bad, it's clear that you guys are beyond delusional in thinking that people would waste time with you and your ideologies ! And from what i saw on the other thread, you were the one who was banned and made a couple new accounts so i don't know what to think anymore, fact is that all 3 of you will be banned soon for sure and for good, it's only a matter of time !
why would I be banned for asking for help with dealing with gyno? I never attacked or insulted anyone.

Meanwhile you threatened to rape my friend (@Ikarus) which is a federal offense.
 

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I understand what you are saying but these guys are truly handicapped by hair loss. I have BDD and I know what goes thru their minds. But some of those guys do have legitimate significant hair loss. They may not have the true definition of BDD but they suffer from feeling like a fish out of water since most of their peers have significantly more hair. Some of them have very little hair loss so those people definitely show BDD tendency. However, most of them are fully aware of what they are doing and seem intelligent enough to know there could be consequences. I think the thread really represents the full impact hair loss has on those losing hair at a very young age. There should be some type of sticky that mentions that all these treatments should be done strictly under a care of a licensed physician and psychiatrist and no minor should consent to this type of treatment without consulting with his parents or legal guardian. Desperate people will always turn to desperate measures. However, once they hit rock bottom they will have to decide if they plan on staying there. Social media has definitely impacted this generation and it's not going to go away. People are going to have to take responsibility for their actions and educate themselves now at a much younger age if they want to survive in this world because these are the people that might be parents some day if they can take on the biggest challenge of their life. Being a parent definitely is something no person should take lightly.

I am glad that I didn't grow up during a time of social media that's for sure. A lot of guys are under the impression that they will never get a chance to become parents if they lose their hair in the age of tinders and social media. Keeping their hair is do or die for a lot of people, this is why we have dudes flying to turkey for cheap transplants despite knowing the reputation. Long term effects do not matter to them, nor should they if preserving their genetic line is a priority, and it always is due to animal nature. Nothing you say will matter.

And about doing these treatments under the care of a licensed physician and psychiatrist... You know full well that men seeking professional help due to hair loss are swiftly kicked out the door and told to "man up and accept it" like I was when I was first seeking even just a simple finasteride prescription long ago. Society does not help men dealing with these problems, why do you think male suicide rate is so high. So I don't completely blame them for self medicating.
 

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I am glad that I didn't grow up during a time of social media that's for sure. A lot of guys are under the impression that they will never get a chance to become parents if they lose their hair in the age of tinders and social media. Keeping their hair is do or die for a lot of people, this is why we have dudes flying to turkey for cheap transplants despite knowing the reputation. Long term effects do not matter to them, nor should they if preserving their genetic line is a priority, and it always is due to animal nature. Nothing you say will matter.

And about doing these treatments under the care of a licensed physician and psychiatrist... You know full well that men seeking professional help due to hair loss are swiftly kicked out the door and told to "man up and accept it" like I was when I was first seeking even just a simple finasteride prescription long ago. Society does not help men dealing with these problems, why do you think male suicide rate is so high. So I don't completely blame them for self medicating.
From what I am reading these guys are finding doctors who will comply with their requests. I think these doctors might be more progressive with the times. It took me one minute to convince my doctor to prescribe dutasteride for hair loss as I seemed to be more educated than he was on the treatment of hair loss. Not only that but he was debating on whether he should treat hair loss too( he was a younger doctor) when I brought up the conversation. These guys are constantly self educating themselves which will be an advantage when they are consulting with these doctors. Most progressive doctors will actually be impressed that they are executing due diligence before they even stepped foot into their office. As long as the doctor is smart enough to document his discussion along with the possible side effects, most doctors are protected if the patient comes back with a law suit. Most of the time, it is always someone else convincing the patient to sue even if the patient does not really want to do it. In most cases, happy patients don't sue.
 

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I started bicalutamide on the 6th of June 2019, so almost 2 months ago.

I had a super duper tiny lump in my left nipple and no gyno in my right nipple from dutasteride before.

I was previously on 30mg raloxifene and 0.5mg dutasteride from 8 months prior but it wasn't stopping my Androgenetic alopecia at all so I decided to do research and add bicalutamide to my regimen and up my dose of raloxifene to 60mg on June 6, 2019.

My hair and skin have never felt better
but the only issue is that even though I'm on raloxifene, ever since I started bicalutamide I have developed an even bigger lump in my left nipple and a huge lump in my right nipple as well. Gyno is so disgusting but I don't want to get off of bicalutamide since this is the only thing that seems to be working out of everything I tried for my hair. What should I do, increase the raloxifene dose? get surgery? Thanks

Well, yeah....you're taking enough anti-androgens to turn your androgenic profile into an infant.
 

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I wanted to say something more but i fell a sleep... I think you understand that this 10 guys that are cutting their balls off on this forums, physically and chemically are just a minority no, i guess you are aware of that correct ? We are 8 billion in the world, from how many men of them ? How many of them you think are right now in the same position as this guys ? You and others encouraging their frustration and mental illnesses is the same like the doctors that encourage and prescribe them strong anti-cancer and transgender treatments that are not even approved for hair loss just because they are afraid they are going to commit suicide if not... There is no difference and this happens only in the US, in Europe you will never see something like this... Besides dutasteride and finasteride you won't see sh*t from doctors for hair loss without maybe convincing them that you really want to switch genders or whatever reasons you may have in wanting this...
Regarding hair loss, i believe it affects every individual in some way, i saw even 60 year olds that suffered from loosing their hair and it can be very frustrating, but transforming your frustration in a mental illness is something else, and encouraging it by pitying them is the same as the transgenders where encouraged... Me personally i don't have nothing with nobody, especially that it does not impact me but i don't agree with a lot of things and i have no obligation in accepting them just because there is a minority who does and this minority is again, from the US... Get out of that US bubble and see that not all of the world is like this... I'm not religious, i don't have set mindsets and i'm very open minded but very educated also in what it comes to mental illnesses and medicine, and fascinated about this subject also... And even if i don't care what others do, even if it's none of my business if somebody wants to switch genders or grow dicks instead of vaginas and vice versa, it's not normal to make me accept it just because your country spreads all the mental illnesses in the world just because they don't know how to treat them and make others just accept them also... There are a lot of bald people in this world, from kids to older people and i bet that 90% of them would want a full head of hair if it was that simple, but because there is nothing that is really worth it, not even finasteride that could give you a lot of sides that normal people will never accept, they just accept their faith and move on, and that's that.. It's easy ? No, but it's easier than growing boobs and cutting your dick off and staying 24/7 on a hair loss forum spreading your ideologies and mental illnesses all over the forum, telling people that it's over if you don't take anti cancer drugs, telling people that you "found the cure" and that it's ok to cut your balls off and grow some boobies and all the other shits this incels encourage and spread all around the place... And it's your fault as a community and it only encourages their frustration, mental incel illnesses and you deserve sitting here talking and taking their sh*t daily, because you are part of it !
Look at that hormonal thread where that guy injected his balls with acid at home, he is all over the internet, on youtube and on other forums, he started by injecting steroids in him at a very young age, 17 or something like that, before hair loss and maybe he induced his hair loss because of this and after he decided to cut his balls of at home and turn into a women, spreading his disease all over this forum.. Just look at his pictures, at his posts, i wasted 30 minutes just reading his last comments, comments in which he is saying that he hates men and their testosterone, that it's like poison and he is disgusted about men's smell, that cutting his balls of it's the best thing he ever done, etc... Just take a f*****g look and tell me after when does this has something to do with the frustration that hair loss can cause, it yells mental illness with every comment and words coming our of their mouths!
Keep encouraging this kind of behavior and soon your kids will take this incels advises and come home without balls and with full grown boobies and tell you that DHTCell, the hair loss "scientists", found the cure of hair loss with baba yaga and the other incels of this forum... You know that are groups in real world in America that encourage Pedophilia, groups that have a lot of adepts that are trying to make people accept their mental illness as a normality and that are starting to get attention just like transgender get it at first ? There is only a need of a Caitlyn Jenner of pedophiles to start a really strong movement and by the time you know it, it will be a normal thing in f*****g little kids on the streets just like it's a normal thing in men with dicks "transformed" into women coming into parlors and asking for their but and balls to be waxed by women just because they think they are one, or sitting inside bathrooms with little girls because "they are one" also... Encourage more this illnesses just because you don't know how to treat them and soon you will drown in your own mistakes that's for sure a fact and a thing that it's gonna end that ruin of a country that you all love... The American dream lol, the country of all possibilities !
90% of this forums if not even more, is dominated by the US and their mental illnesses, from the reddit ones, to this one and the incel ones, etc...90% of them are americans, it's fantastic and unbelievable at the same time and if i would have known from the start i would have stayed as far as i could, but i know now and i'm gonna go as far away even if i pity the ones that could fall in their trap, it's not worth it, it has no end and even if you could make this fuckers disappear more like them will come instantly, because they are more and more like them, especially on the internet, the place where you can show your real face without people knowing who you are !
And i suggest all normal people of this forum to do the same, either block the sh*t out of this freaks or just leave, it's no place for sane people or for ones that want to live their life without having do deal with this incel degenerates that are trying to spread their disease all over the place !
my testosterone level (51.6 nmol/l) are likely higher than yours so idk why ur calling me a tranny lmao

also how long did it take u to write this haha

(@Ikarus , @I'mme , @baba_yaga , @Ein , @bridgeburn , @Sonolmn98 , @Itsnoahkennedy and others) are good people, please don't talk about them like that thank you
 

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I wanted to say something more but i fell a sleep... I think you understand that this 10 guys that are cutting their balls off on this forums, physically and chemically are just a minority no, i guess you are aware of that correct ? We are 8 billion in the world, from how many men of them ? How many of them you think are right now in the same position as this guys ? You and others encouraging their frustration and mental illnesses is the same like the doctors that encourage and prescribe them strong anti-cancer and transgender treatments that are not even approved for hair loss just because they are afraid they are going to commit suicide if not... There is no difference and this happens only in the US, in Europe you will never see something like this... Besides dutasteride and finasteride you won't see sh*t from doctors for hair loss without maybe convincing them that you really want to switch genders or whatever reasons you may have in wanting this...
Regarding hair loss, i believe it affects every individual in some way, i saw even 60 year olds that suffered from loosing their hair and it can be very frustrating, but transforming your frustration in a mental illness is something else, and encouraging it by pitying them is the same as the transgenders where encouraged... Me personally i don't have nothing with nobody, especially that it does not impact me but i don't agree with a lot of things and i have no obligation in accepting them just because there is a minority who does and this minority is again, from the US... Get out of that US bubble and see that not all of the world is like this... I'm not religious, i don't have set mindsets and i'm very open minded but very educated also in what it comes to mental illnesses and medicine, and fascinated about this subject also... And even if i don't care what others do, even if it's none of my business if somebody wants to switch genders or grow dicks instead of vaginas and vice versa, it's not normal to make me accept it just because your country spreads all the mental illnesses in the world just because they don't know how to treat them and make others just accept them also... There are a lot of bald people in this world, from kids to older people and i bet that 90% of them would want a full head of hair if it was that simple, but because there is nothing that is really worth it, not even finasteride that could give you a lot of sides that normal people will never accept, they just accept their faith and move on, and that's that.. It's easy ? No, but it's easier than growing boobs and cutting your dick off and staying 24/7 on a hair loss forum spreading your ideologies and mental illnesses all over the forum, telling people that it's over if you don't take anti cancer drugs, telling people that you "found the cure" and that it's ok to cut your balls off and grow some boobies and all the other shits this incels encourage and spread all around the place... And it's your fault as a community and it only encourages their frustration, mental incel illnesses and you deserve sitting here talking and taking their sh*t daily, because you are part of it !
Look at that hormonal thread where that guy injected his balls with acid at home, he is all over the internet, on youtube and on other forums, he started by injecting steroids in him at a very young age, 17 or something like that, before hair loss and maybe he induced his hair loss because of this and after he decided to cut his balls of at home and turn into a women, spreading his disease all over this forum.. Just look at his pictures, at his posts, i wasted 30 minutes just reading his last comments, comments in which he is saying that he hates men and their testosterone, that it's like poison and he is disgusted about men's smell, that cutting his balls of it's the best thing he ever done, etc... Just take a f*****g look and tell me after when does this has something to do with the frustration that hair loss can cause, it yells mental illness with every comment and words coming our of their mouths!
Keep encouraging this kind of behavior and soon your kids will take this incels advises and come home without balls and with full grown boobies and tell you that DHTCell, the hair loss "scientists", found the cure of hair loss with baba yaga and the other incels of this forum... You know that are groups in real world in America that encourage Pedophilia, groups that have a lot of adepts that are trying to make people accept their mental illness as a normality and that are starting to get attention just like transgender get it at first ? There is only a need of a Caitlyn Jenner of pedophiles to start a really strong movement and by the time you know it, it will be a normal thing in f*****g little kids on the streets just like it's a normal thing in men with dicks "transformed" into women coming into parlors and asking for their but and balls to be waxed by women just because they think they are one, or sitting inside bathrooms with little girls because "they are one" also... Encourage more this illnesses just because you don't know how to treat them and soon you will drown in your own mistakes that's for sure a fact and a thing that it's gonna end that ruin of a country that you all love... The American dream lol, the country of all possibilities !
90% of this forums if not even more, is dominated by the US and their mental illnesses, from the reddit ones, to this one and the incel ones, etc...90% of them are americans, it's fantastic and unbelievable at the same time and if i would have known from the start i would have stayed as far as i could, but i know now and i'm gonna go as far away even if i pity the ones that could fall in their trap, it's not worth it, it has no end and even if you could make this fuckers disappear more like them will come instantly, because they are more and more like them, especially on the internet, the place where you can show your real face without people knowing who you are !
And i suggest all normal people of this forum to do the same, either block the sh*t out of this freaks or just leave, it's no place for sane people or for ones that want to live their life without having do deal with this incel degenerates that are trying to spread their disease all over the place !
They should make a category on this forums called Freaks and Experiments just for them, this way people would know from start with whom they are dealing with, for f*** sake some people could take their advises for granted and really think that this incels really know what they are ingesting or talking about, you all are underestimating how dangerous they are for society and the internet itself ! And keep encouraging them by pitying their mental illness cos it's for sure the way to go ! I'm out have fun with them what can i say, i bet in 10 years most of you will still be here trying to find another cure, this time for the diseases you will get from the pill ingesting and other shits ! Good luck and good riddance !
My post was not about encouragement. The main point was that people will resort to desperate measures when they are desperate. You think that is called encouragement. I don't run this forum and I am not a moderator. So it is not my responsibility to intervene with this type of behavior. If you feel your posts are going to make a difference for any of them, then more power to you.

I have enough experience by now on this forum to know that alot of the content posted on here is useless but it did teach me that I was not the only one on this planet who had some of the thoughts I had which honestly I knew was bonkers. You don't think these guys know what they are doing is definitely not the norm? I think the only reason why they post is strictly to compare notes and also to be a part of a brotherhood( or sisterhood) with those struggling with the same thoughts and concerns.

I don't encourage their methods but I do encourage their efforts to seek support from others who struggle with the same thoughts. I think it might be possible that some of these guys will have huge regrets ten years from now but if that is what keeps them from killing themselves, I think that might be considered a step in the right direction. I realize the number one medical issue most people have today is stress, anxiety and depression. And this epidemic is never going to stop. Too many people are learning this might be the norm. Look at the media. Mental illness is everywhere and there is no way you are going to stop it. You can't censor it. It's way out control. For some, suicide is the ultimate cure for others its just cope.

These guys are experimenting with life. And they know it can backfire at any moment. They are on this forum just for expression. Just like everyone else here. If you don't like what any one says, Press the Ignore button or just skip the thread. I never read the HRT thread until a few days ago when someone pointed it out to me. Why? Because I only read threads that interest me. That was not one of them. But curiosity got the best of me just like it does for alot of people on here. So I read some of it. Alot of the content was entertaining, surprising, and interesting. However, who I am to judge as I have my own problems. If this is what these guys have to do get back their hair, who am I stop to them. It's not my call. If they wanted my advice, I would definitely give it to them. But so far, none of them have asked. Have they asked you?
 
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