Why there will NEVER be a cure for baldness

[ratty]

Yes but I dont see any other reason to why ppl reverse hairloss from nofap.

Has anyone reversed hair loss from nofap?

 

[losingbattle88]

Has anyone reversed hair loss from nofap?

Many experience thickening. One guy was on finasteride for a long time. It wasnt until he started nofap that His hair thickened up.

 

[coolio]

Men have been frustrated about hair loss for thousands of years. Do you guys think there's a masturbation connection and people just never noticed it before?

Is it a case of "people were stupid back then"? (I've got news - they weren't.)

Or is it "teenage boys weren't jacking off like crazy until internet p**rn"? (I've got news - they were.)

 

[Hairful]

Many experience thickening. One guy was on finasteride for a long time. It wasnt until he started nofap that His hair thickened up.

Thickening and reversing hairloss are too different things. Also placebo effect is high especially in subjective measurements.

I will never forget how in the PFS trial people on sugarpill (placebo pills) experienced sexual side effects including thinning of semen for months after discontinuing sugar pills.

Never underestimate the power of placebo

By the way my hair has thickened and even regrown with finasteride while my care for hairs has gone down the toilet, I don’t even use shampoos anymore, just good ole soap. I literally could care less about the health of my hair anymore and despite this my hairs have never looked better and more healthier and happy. I even use hairsprays and gels when in past I was scared from hair products lol

Yeah no, hairs are repulsed from hormones due to genetics, remove that and hairs don’t give a shitt whether you fap or treat them like unneeded weeds

 

[losingbattle88]

Thickening and reversing hairloss are too different things. Also placebo effect is high especially in subjective measurements.

I will never forget how in the PFS trial people on sugarpill (placebo pills) experienced sexual side effects including thinning of semen for months after discontinuing sugar pills.

Never underestimate the power of placebo

By the way my hair has thickened and even regrown with finasteride while my care for hairs has gone down the toilet, I don’t even use shampoos anymore, just good ole soap. I literally could care less about the health of my hair anymore and despite this my hairs have never looked better and more healthier and happy. I even use hairsprays and gels when in past I was scared from hair products lol

Yeah no, hairs are repulsed from hormones due to genetics, remove that and hairs don’t give a shitt whether you fap or treat them like unneeded weeds

No man he had before and after pictures His hair clearly was thicker man.

 

[losingbattle88]

Thickening and reversing hairloss are too different things. Also placebo effect is high especially in subjective measurements.

I will never forget how in the PFS trial people on sugarpill (placebo pills) experienced sexual side effects including thinning of semen for months after discontinuing sugar pills.

Never underestimate the power of placebo

By the way my hair has thickened and even regrown with finasteride while my care for hairs has gone down the toilet, I don’t even use shampoos anymore, just good ole soap. I literally could care less about the health of my hair anymore and despite this my hairs have never looked better and more healthier and happy. I even use hairsprays and gels when in past I was scared from hair products lol

Yeah no, hairs are repulsed from hormones due to genetics, remove that and hairs don’t give a shitt whether you fap or treat them like unneeded weeds

Post finasteride syndrome is real tho even doctors confirms it I had it myself for a year after quitting saw Palmetto. My penis was like rubber and zero sex drive. Lots of other symptoms too. But while on the stuff I had insane libido. It was only after quitting it that I developed this syndrome.

 

[Hairful]

Post finasteride syndrome is real tho even doctors confirms it I had it myself for a year after quitting saw Palmetto. My penis was like rubber and zero sex drive. Lots of other symptoms too. But while on the stuff I had insane libido. It was only after quitting it that I developed this syndrome.

Saw palmetto is trash though, I used it for a week and it was horrible.

I don’t think it’s due to DHT inhibition, it could be allergy

 

[losingbattle88]

Saw palmetto is trash though, I used it for a week and it was horrible.

I don’t think it’s due to DHT inhibition, it could be allergy

Not at all. Saw Palmetto block both types of dht and can be very strong when taken high dosages. My libido was INSANE on it. Just looking outside the window at men made me horny as hell. It was crazy this is due to the Spike in testosterone. Also got alot stronger on it. So u can go fuk urself u b**ch. Im just gonna block you because I cant convince you that post finasteride syndrome is real. It can happen on any dht blocker and it happens after you quit taking it. Ur ignored for life Bye f*****.

 

[coolio]

hey did notice it. People have always said masturbation and sexual deviance causes hair loss. They were right.

Thay also said it caused blindness and hairy palms and bad moral character.

They blamed masturbation for everything they could think of, because their objection to it was subconscious rather than rational. Like today.

You can't jack off as much without internet p**rn as you can with internet p**rn. There are studies on this.

Any studies that weren't funded by some nutjob organization?

Long before internet p**rn, teenage boys were jerking off repeatedly until their jizz supply was temporarly exhausted and their dick skin was painful.

But yeah, maybe modern media has changed the limits of human anatomy in a single generation. Sure.

 

[pegasus2]

Any studies that weren't funded by some nutjob organization?

Yes, it's called the coolidge effect.

Long before internet p**rn, teenage boys were jerking off repeatedly until their jizz supply was temporarly exhausted and their dick skin was painful.

Nobody was jerking off for 12 hours a day before internet p**rn. Don't be stupid. There's no refractory period when you have a new mate. With the internet there's an endless supply of new mates(videos)

 

[Hairful]

Not at all. Saw Palmetto block both types of dht and can be very strong when taken high dosages. My libido was INSANE on it. Just looking outside the window at men made me horny as hell. It was crazy this is due to the Spike in testosterone. Also got alot stronger on it. So u can go fuk urself u b**ch. Im just gonna block you because I cant convince you that post finasteride syndrome is real. It can happen on any dht blocker and it happens after you quit taking it. Ur ignored for life Bye f*****.

I don’t believe it. And this BS is the reason I went from a diffuse NW1 to nw6, one year on finasteride and I am back to nw5, maybe I will progress to nw4 but that’s not enough I am fuckedd all cause I believed the fearmongering. I was scared of finasteride NOT that I would experience any sides temporarily but the BS you are spewing which is that what if I stop finasteride and my dick doesn’t work anymore for life. I like sex, I don’t want to be the impotent fuckk in my family.

That^ that shitt scared the crap out of me. When I got to nw6 then the fear of being shiny bald nw7 overpowered other fears and I started finasteride, thanks also to Kevin Mann ( God bless him for helping so many people like me ) who sounded more logical.

I don’t remember when the first pill I took anymore, I do remember the first few hours/day looking for any changes, it was 0.1mg just tiny tiny pill. Nothing. I don’t even remember the past one year of how I was on finasteride until I joined this year and then some nocebo effects happened then gone.

The science doesn’t support it. Finasteride only inhibits so much of the enzyme and the levels shoot right back up when you stop finasteride. The half life is 6-7 hours. In PFS patients, the levels of hormone are normal. I would’ve believed it supposing some genes are turned off but there’s nothing to back that up.

When I saw people get PFS from sugar pills yeah it’s just in their head. One doctor from the study used very harsh language and call these people mental sickos with unhealthy obsessions

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Im having my best results so far since switching to Dutasteride after 2 years on finasteride which only mantained. Haven't peaked in regrowth yet and still improving 3 years later luckily. It seems aggresive diffuse/DUPA needs shitloads of hair cycles to recover from so much DHT damage. My progress has been incredibly slow and steady but it didn't peak yet, still improving 3 years later luckily.

I went from diffusse NW6 to NW3.5. I assume recovering up to NW1 is impossible without transplant but still gonna try it. Hopefully I can inject some nice HMI-115 before the next transplant is inevitable lol

 

[coolio]

Nobody was jerking off for 12 hours a day before internet p**rn. Don't be stupid.

LOL. You really don't think so?

There's no refractory period when you have a new mate. With the internet there's an endless supply of new mates(videos)

So internet p**rn would have that effect, but p**rn on an 8mm video or VCR tape would not? How about skin magazines with dozens of girls at a time?

Spending more time looking at p**rn, and even spending more time stroking your dick, is not the same thing as doing more orgasms & ejaculating. The body has its own limits and teenage boys can hit them with or without internet p**rn.

 

[Hairful]

Im having my best results so far since switching to Dutasteride after 2 years on finasteride which only mantained. Haven't peaked in regrowth yet and still improving 3 years later luckily. It seems aggresive diffuse/DUPA needs shitloads of hair cycles to recover from so much DHT damage. My progress has been incredibly slow and steady but it didn't peak yet, still improving 3 years later luckily.

I went from diffusse NW6 to NW3.5. I assume recovering up to NW1 is impossible without transplant but still gonna try it. Hopefully I can inject some nice HMI-115 before the next transplant is inevitable lol

Damn man, I am pleased to hear that as a fellow diffuser/retrogade sufferer. For the first year I had given up hope on even maintaining and looked bald af with massive sheds, now every few months I am pleasantly surprised to see new terminals and existing hairs thickening. I don’t know if I have peaked yet but it’s definitely slow and steady.

I don’t think I can wait for HMI which really bums me out, have to get married and no ficking way am I taking finasteride after marriage, don’t want kids with Down syndrome lmao so have to get a hair transplant.

God, I would be devastated if HMI comes out in a year and here I have butchered hair from hair transplant. Realistically though, I don’t think it’s coming out even this decade…drug approval is a really slow process

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Damn man, I am pleased to hear that as a fellow diffuser/retrogade sufferer. For the first year I had given up hope on even maintaining and looked bald af with massive sheds, now every few months I am pleasantly surprised to see new terminals and existing hairs thickening. I don’t know if I have peaked yet but it’s definitely slow and steady.

I don’t think I can wait for HMI which really bums me out, have to get married and no ficking way am I taking finasteride after marriage, don’t want kids with Down syndrome lmao so have to get a hair transplant.

God, I would be devastated if HMI comes out in a year and here I have butchered hair from hair transplant. Realistically though, I don’t think it’s coming out even this decade…drug approval is a really slow process

Lol, you can just stop Finasteride for 1-2months before planting the seed in your waifu... it will be gone from your system completely and safe. This was told to me by derm with many clients who had kids without issues on 5ARIs. He never ever seen any deformity or problem in any case.

And yeah, if you are stuck on regrowth after >2yrs on dutasteride/OM its better to stop coping and go for a transplant which will buy you another 5 years while new drugs come out and hopefully this time they work. Usually one transplant doesn't harm that much, its when you go for a 2cnd or 3rd one that your donor starts looking like a dead rat.

 

[HansMetjen]

Hard Blackpill.

 

[Dogchebag]

In general, I think it is rather nonsensicle to believe that existing industries can ever block the entry of newer and better technologies to the market. If you just look at the products we are using over the last decades, it is clear that there is rapid development across the board and each bit of progress was to the detriment of other companies or even entire industries, who were profitable, rich and powerful before the new competitors arrived.

Specific to hair loss, I think that "the cure" will most likely be a expansion of the market rather than a decline. Let's say Stemson makes it and the price their product at €50.000 then that will be far more than an individual would spend even on hair transplants, minodixil, finasteride and other garbage.

I also wondered why a guy like Musk didn't commit a billion or so to solving this problem. My only explanation is that most billionairs are a little bit older and might still feel some kind of shame in solving a purely cosmetical issue like hair loss (Yes, I know it can affect mental health, but this is the perception most people have) since that is quite common in older generations. My guess is that they want to be seen as tackling real issues instead of engaging in vanity projects.

I could believe that they might not be interested in giving others something they couldn't have

 

[Hope111]

I could believe that they might not be interested in giving others something they couldn't have

but elon musk has a hair transplant

 

[Janks16]

The sad truth is there are many diseases that need cures, and hair loss is not as profitable or "morally" attractive to pursue as many others. In some way the OP is right, traditional pharmaceuticals aren't ideal for curing disease, but they are cheap and easy. For decades the technology was not there to move beyond this, and there was little motivation to invest in it as profits were rolling in and investments in new technology are risky. This dynamic has changed in the last decade. Technology is there to pursue better options, and the race is on to be the first one to cross the finish line with more advanced medicines like gene therapy, immunotherapies, mAbs, cellular reprogramming, etc. The cure is coming.

Yes this is true. I currently have a traumatic brain injury. My doctors are focusing on my brain, not on my hair. I would like to have both, but I doubt that will happen. I will say this, though, I take 1 tablet every day for 2.5mg of Minoxidil and I'm getting a lot more hair that I didn't have over the last year. It's not a bunch, but it's more that I used to have. Happy to have this.

 

[Joxy]

but elon musk has a hair transplant

Elon Musk doesn’t spend his whole day on hair loss blogs or reddit. Maybe he doesn’t even care. You have good solutions for teeth today, but most of people still walk with bad teeth.