Will HM become a relaity before 2012?

[Matt Skiba]

I'd have to say the first method of reviving a miniturized follicle seems a lot more realistic than to actually create a new follicle. It just sounds a lot more legitimate to be able to inject some stuff into a follicle to bring it back to life, and honestly this would work just fine for me as I haven't had much loss, but it would be really nice to have a solid hairline instead of having my hair somewhat fade into my forehead on the sides, the added volume would make for a lot nicer hairdos.

Creating a follicle almost seems like something out of science-fiction. No doubt if it's pulled off it'll be something to go down in the history books.

 

[Guest]

Follicles are already being created. We do it here (Sydney) for burn victims.

The issue at hand isn't so much science but cosmetic. The hair we grow on burn victims won't pass "expectations" for hair loss sufferers. Burn victims are glad to have any hair.. hair loss sufferers want the real deal. Thats whats delaying things.

 

[dimitar_berbagod]

Dr Yousseff

As a medical professional, do you anticipate successful (up to cosmetic standards) HM being available in the near future?

I'm sure this is the question on most balding guys' lips and I always hear conflicting opinions....

Thanks!

 

[Kube8]

Follicles are already being created. We do it here (Sydney) for burn victims.

The issue at hand isn't so much science but cosmetic. The hair we grow on burn victims won't pass "expectations" for hair loss sufferers. Burn victims are glad to have any hair.. hair loss sufferers want the real deal. Thats whats delaying things.

I guess the first trials for icx seemed to rule cancerous growth out, but i'm skeptical. In your experience with "new hair follicles" for the burn victims, has there been any cancer issues thus far?

 

[30_going_on_60]

Baby hair huh? Sweet...now all I have to do is get an adult sized bottle and a diaper to complete the look. Women DO seem to like men that look younger.

Here's what will happen:

March 2012....HM will be available in 2-4 years time, promise!

March 2016....HM will be available in 2-4 years, gurantee!!

March 2028...... there will finally be a good option available. Like a jacka$$, I'll spend a years salary on it.

April 2028......The new HOT look will be men with bald heads, REAL bald heads.

May 2028.....With my new head of thick hair, I'll join a forum of really depressed and suicidal people complaining about how they just can't lose any hair and how unlucky they are.

March 2029: HM will be now be available.

 

[30_going_on_60]

. Burn victims are glad to have any hair.. hair loss sufferers want the real deal. Thats whats delaying things.[/quote]

No no..I don't care about the real deal, at this stage I'll take what I can get. Hell..what do I care if my hair grows the wrong way? I would be happy just to buzz it down. Damn..this technology is out there and we're not using it? Oh sweet Lord, I hope people don't read this and start setting themselves on fire to get an effective (and free) hair transplant.

 

[dimitar_berbagod]

Lol Take a chill pill 30_60

I reckon 5-10 years seems a reasonable estimation for HM. There were time estimates that Dr Kemp (from icx) was giving which seemed to suggest (if all goes well) phase 3 trials would be done by around the end on 2009 and medical approval would take 12-18 months after that.

There's also a link on these boards to one of the directors at Bosley who reckons HM will be available around the end of 2009 or in 2010, which I think is completely ridiculous, and is only giving false hope for balding men.

At 23 I've still got time on my side though I hope it's not too long...

 

[dimitar_berbagod]

What do you mean?

Do you think it'll be a lot longer then?

 

[uncomfortable man]

I'm kinda irked with Cal's take on hair transplants. Yes there are plenty of hair mills out there that give hair transplant a bad name, but to say that the best in the business is simply not good enough is just unfair. For many people including myself, meds alone wont come anywhere close to doing the trick, so hair transplant is really our only hope, which Cal so cavalierly shits on. I'm not some 17 year old who has all the time in the world to wait for these labcoat pricks to get it right. I've had to put up with being visibly bald for 10 years now- I'm f*****g through with this waiting game! If I can get an hair transplant I will be buying time until the next thing finally arrives, whereby I can use that to fill in the blanks.

 

[Eureka]

I doubt that, It's in phase 2 it's not as if it's made up, I thought that before, it had always been a rumour, it was possible yes, but it was simple wishful thinking on our parts that it was on it's way out, I'm speaking 90s here.

Now though? I mean it's actually being developed, for consumer use, Yes it may take some time to get it right, But It will come, Only time will tell how soon.

 

[uncomfortable man]

ICX may be a lost cause, but what do you guys think about Follicia's microderm abrasion/ salve method? It may not yeild DHT resistant follicles like HM would but at least it would give real bald guys like me a chance to be where you all are at (having hair and taking meds to maintain it). Plus I heard that it doesn't require FDA approval so if they can figure it out, chances are we will be seeing this long before HM come out. Any thoughts?

 

[uncomfortable man]

So get a transplant, with all of it's drawbacks or wait for a far superior method that may never come out in my lifetime. Hmmm.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Well, I'm an NW5, so I should just give up all hope. Oh man, if I didn't have a daughter I would seriously be considering suicide right now.

 

[IBM]

Well, I'm an NW5, so I should just give up all hope. Oh man, if I didn't have a daughter I would seriously be considering suicide right now.

Have you thought in a trip around Europe?

 

[person]

Didn't think I post would get so many answers, usually I am lucky to get a single response form you guys when I post here. Just by looking at the statistical data I think due to the 48% chance that you guys like ti will be available by 2012 it gives me hope it will defo be here by 2020 and hopefully after my hair transplant I will still have a decent amount of hair by then. Happy days.

 

[Obsidian]

I see more advances in science such as treating cancer and other deadly diseases which to be honest I would rather see than hairloss. We may see it in our lifetime maybe not but I honestly think if we do, it won't be 'till most of us will have one foot in the grave. It may sound pessimistic but hairloss isn't really comparable to say finding a treatable solution to Alzheimers. The acell thing for treating scars I think will be available before the magic cure.

I hope we will see at least one or more treatments available in the future which is better than just the two proven ones on the market.

 

[debris]

No. Reason is simple. Trials take a decade. There is no treatment that would be advanced enough in the trials so that it could pass in less then 3 years.

And the skipping trials idea is just a dream. But all ppl who read latest Follica announcements must be aware of that already.

3 years time would mean that now there would have to be a treatment that already works well, and has entered phase III. Thats how 3 years to product on market if all goes well looks like. 1.5 years for patient enrolling, treating them all, monitoring them all through phase III, final data collection, processing & evaluation. half a year to one year for super fast FDA approval and half a year for marketing & starting it all up. additive math is taught in the second grade. It just does not take under 3 years.

 

[Re75]

I see more advances in science such as treating cancer and other deadly diseases which to be honest I would rather see than hairloss. We may see it in our lifetime maybe not but I honestly think if we do, it won't be 'till most of us will have one foot in the grave. It may sound pessimistic but hairloss isn't really comparable to say finding a treatable solution to Alzheimers. The acell thing for treating scars I think will be available before the magic cure.

I hope we will see at least one or more treatments available in the future which is better than just the two proven ones on the market.

And that's exactly the kind of attitude that keeps something like a perfected procedure for finally curing hairloss twice as distant from our lifetime than it should be.

 

[dimitar_berbagod]

Obsidian wrote:
I see more advances in science such as treating cancer and other deadly diseases which to be honest I would rather see than hairloss. We may see it in our lifetime maybe not but I honestly think if we do, it won't be 'till most of us will have one foot in the grave. It may sound pessimistic but hairloss isn't really comparable to say finding a treatable solution to Alzheimers. The acell thing for treating scars I think will be available before the magic cure.

I hope we will see at least one or more treatments available in the future which is better than just the two proven ones on the market.
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And that's exactly the kind of attitude that keeps something like a perfected procedure for finally curing hairloss twice as distant from our lifetime than it should be.
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Don't be ridiculous. Treating diseases such as cancer/aids is far more important that hairloss. True we would all love to see HM work in the near future but it isn't a case of life or death.

Incidentally, have you ever lost someone very close to you to cancer? ...I have, and it's definitely harder to deal with than hair loss

 

[Re75]

I'm not making an argument as if to say cancer is somehow a lesser evil than hairloss. That's ridiculous. But its presence isn't necessarily going to be solved by taking almost no focus for other things like FM. Right now as it stands the research for FM, and public effort to push it to a realization, seems almost standstill beyond these test trials. And even with the limited resources, places like Intercytex are having some success, imagine if it was truly put into an urgency with more funding and the medical world decided to seriously solve it. The problem is right now FM is not looked on as important, that's why there's just Follica and Intercytex. It's because so many people downplay losing their hair and settle for less, and that's bullshit. As far as I'm concerned this is the only mortal coil I have and once I shuffle off there is no more life, ever. And to be completely morbid day in and day out with an uneccessary torture that can be solved twice as fast with modern technology but isn't...that's just absurd.

Do you seriously want to argue the case that a cure for cancer is closer than to a perfected form of FM? And somehow there is no justification for stepping up money and resources for FM because it might have gone to cancer??? Does that mean they shouldn't have spent billions of dollars on an atom smasher and instead used it for cancer research? If it wasn't likely that FM could be finished with a little more urgency I wouldn't make the argument. I mean, how long do you think it would take for FM to be a reality if a few billion dollars were poured into the research and tests? Smaller things that can be solved are also important, along with huge obstacles like deadly diseases.

This is our life, right now. If you want to settle that FM has to take the backseat, then it will probably be ready for the next generations, when we're old and have "one foot in the grave", that's the bottom line.