Women 'spurn men going thin on top'

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Vigaku said:
I agree with almost all of this. Girls dumping guys due to genetic balding - minority group? Come on dude, some of them think it's a disease :laugh:, and you think a minority of girls would not pick bald guys?

You misinterpret my post.

I meant it is a minority group who would judge you entirely for your hairloss. Isn't this true? Yes a sizable portion of girls will naturally be predisposed to judging someone with hairloss (case by case basis) but after getting to know someone etc, surely this would become less of a factor for most girls.

Wouldn't it be a minority group for a girl to dump a guy SOLEY due to genetic balding?!?! Common sense would dictate so i would have thought....
You don't get to choose what's common sense and what isn't...

My point is that you're saying only a minority would not let a man's baldness get in the way of a relationship, even when she knows him. Ok, I can see them being friends, but when it comes to having sex and copulating...the woman will think otherwise. As days pass in this era, more and more women are viewing hair loss as a "medical disease", because there are ads here and there for treatments for male pattern baldness. They see this, finally decide to read an article about it on the internet, and find out it's due to genetics. Unless the girl has sh*t for brains, she will immediately lose considering having a family with the guy. She'll just say she can find someone else who's prety3r! That's the majority of women, dude, at least the group that are confident enough to dress up and seek some c0ck, the same majority that see themselves as being good enough that they MUST have men with full heads of hair, the same majority that aren't desperate for one man and know they can get laid 6 times in a week. This does not include girls in third world countries who don't even acknowlege such a thing as an attractive man or come out of their homes for that matter.

some really niave statements in there

ill put it like this. if you want to live with this attitude thats fine. Im realistic, im sure there are girls that might be turned off by me thinning to a point of not wanting a sexual relationship and thats fine. Everyone reserves this right. Equally they might abstain from such relations because of other things -my height, my face in general, my personality etc etc....who knows? i know with or without David Beckham hair i couldn't get any girl i wanted so now if a get blown out why would it just be solely because of my hair? Contributing factor? Maybe.

So....example - you're goodlooking, have a good build, reputation etc but have some hairloss, do you think that'd affect you as much as the guy that had nothing going for him and is also bald? No? Well i wonder why that is? Because hairloss IS JUST ONE FACTOR. I continually out-pull guys i know what hair id kill for - why? who knows, it could be im confident, good fun, decent looking, popular... WHATEVER.......so maybe my hairloss might outrigth hold me back with certain girls but this is a minority group in MY experience.

You see, hairloss ALONE doesn't make you ugly - it can DETRACT from your looks and your confidence though. Its an added factor. You mentinoed this specifically - by saying "what type....ugly?".....you jumped from one thing to another - its clear what your mindset is anyway

I cant speak for you but i know ive got PLENTY of factors for me in my favour even if nice thick hair isnt' one of them. A girl mightn't like bad hair just like they mightnt like bad teeth but you make it out to be a factor that every girl RUNS from. LOL, sorry buddy im not buying into your insecurities, your lack of confidence or you hiding behind overarching theories because of your other shortcomings.

as i said if you were a poor catch to begin with then yes hairloss could make it EXTREMELY difficult when your confidnece is low, but if you were a good catch to begin with the affect can be minimised.

And stfu with that "medical disease" BS, i dont know what kind of girls you deal with but you must know some dumbass b****s


I just LOL at these guys that think if they had a full head of hair they're be so much better with woman....IF THEY WERE GOOD IN THE FIRST PLACE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THESE PROBLEMS AND IF THEY DO IT'LL BE MORE CONFIDENCE RELATED. The people like CCS who never had much female attention now just blame his hairloss when it's just one of many factors and tbh probably one of the smaller factors (his general delusion being the real factor)
 

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iwantperfection said:
lol. why would a woman read an article on hairloss. wise up.

Why is this debated? bald is ugly to alot of girls. thats it. Others wont care. What is the point of this convo?

"Ugly" is a bit harsh. It might be a detraction to someone's looks but even the dumbest b**ch will judge on a case by case basis - if someone was goodlooking and has a shaved head it still won't render them "ugly". It can make somone less goodlooking move closer to "ugly" though, i understand that..
 

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iwantperfection said:
lol. why would a woman read an article on hairloss. wise up.

Why is this debated? bald is ugly to alot of girls. thats it. Others wont care. What is the point of this convo?
My point is that she would find out it's a genetic issue eventually. Hence why a lot of them today have that fear.


Colin297 said:
some really niave statements in there

ill put it like this. if you want to live with this attitude thats fine. Im realistic, im sure there are girls that might be turned off by me thinning to a point of not wanting a sexual relationship and thats fine. Everyone reserves this right. Equally they might abstain from such relations because of other things -my height, my face in general, my personality etc etc....who knows? i know with or without David Beckham hair i couldn't get any girl i wanted so now if a get blown out why would it just be solely because of my hair? Contributing factor? Maybe.

So....example - you're goodlooking, have a good build, reputation etc but have some hairloss, do you think that'd affect you as much as the guy that had nothing going for him and is also bald? No? Well i wonder why that is? Because hairloss IS JUST ONE FACTOR. I continually out-pull guys i know what hair id kill for - why? who knows, it could be im confident, good fun, decent looking, popular... WHATEVER.......so maybe my hairloss might outrigth hold me back with certain girls but this is a minority group in MY experience.

You see, hairloss ALONE doesn't make you ugly - it can DETRACT from your looks and your confidence though. Its an added factor. You mentinoed this specifically - by saying "what type....ugly?".....you jumped from one thing to another - its clear what your mindset is anyway

I cant speak for you but i know ive got PLENTY of factors for me in my favour even if nice thick hair isnt' one of them. A girl mightn't like bad hair just like they mightnt like bad teeth but you make it out to be a factor that every girl RUNS from. LOL, sorry buddy im not buying into your insecurities, your lack of confidence or you hiding behind overarching theories because of your other shortcomings.

as i said if you were a poor catch to begin with then yes hairloss could make it EXTREMELY difficult when your confidnece is low, but if you were a good catch to begin with the affect can be minimised.

And stfu with that "medical disease" BS, i dont know what kind of girls you deal with but you must know some dumbass b****s


I just LOL at these guys that think if they had a full head of hair they're be so much better with woman....IF THEY WERE GOOD IN THE FIRST PLACE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THESE PROBLEMS AND IF THEY DO IT'LL BE MORE CONFIDENCE RELATED. The people like CCS who never had much female attention now just blame his hairloss when it's just one of many factors and tbh probably one of the smaller factors (his general delusion being the real factor)

1. I didn't say being bald meant being ugly, at least I think I didn't. I recall however saying some can still look good and bald. Anyway, my main point is that for a lot of guys, i.e. men who have hardly any attractive features, hair accounts for more than half of their overall attractiveness. They lose that, and they're screwed, unless they're special case scenarios and/or are very lucky (with those group of women of course).

2. I said majority of girls man. You know that group that fantasize over and chat amongst each other about how cute and handsome the guys they've recently seen are? What percent of balding men do you think get brought up in such discussions (if you think so that is)? :/

3. They may not necessarily call it a medical disease, but they will know it is an inherited trait. Even myths state it's recieved from the mom's dads, etc. so even if said b**ch did not decide to do 5 minutes of research, she would think the same regardless, unless she's really that dumb.
 

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seaback said:
Last week I was hanging around in Paris with combed, stilled, and "toppiked" hair, and I must admit that a lot of girls were looking at me, that doesn't happen usually.

I had a short and neat haircut a few weeks ago, I kinda experienced the same.

I'm just a normal guy, I'm not super sexy but I have noticed there has been a few women looking at me.
 

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seaback said:
Last week I was hanging around in Paris with combed, stilled, and "toppiked" hair, and I must admit that a lot of girls were looking at me, that doesn't happen usually.

They noticed that your hair was "toppiked".
 

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IBM said:
seaback said:
Last week I was hanging around in Paris with combed, stilled, and "toppiked" hair, and I must admit that a lot of girls were looking at me, that doesn't happen usually.

They noticed that your hair was "toppiked".

You love putting people down, don't you?

At least the rest of us are having fun!!!!
 

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Ali777, one thing I've noticed is that I get much more attention from girls when I feel self-confident (unfortunately it doesn't happen much times). I guess it's because of the way I behave. When I feel good I feel like nothing could prevent me from having success in life. I don't act like a looser, walk with my head held high, don't look at my shoes as I usually do, or at other people in the street. I don't pay attention to girls sitting in front of me in the subway, I don't even have a glance at them. Looks like I don't care about people, nothing can affect me, I prefer to focus on my "important life full of things way better than everything I can see around me in this moment" rather than looking or even thinking I could look at people around me...
I can be wrong but I guess that girls can notice this. Or maybe it's because I don't stare at them, thus don't look like a jerk.
I'm sorry I can hardly express what I mean, I can't find the words in English.

Yeah definitely dude... Self-confidence is easy to spot from miles away, the opposite sex love it.

My hair is worse than ever, but I try not to think about it, seems to be working. I don't socialise much but whenever I do, something good happens. As I said, I'm not the best looking guy out there, I'm not super confident neither, just normal. Whenever I talk to the opposite sex, I try to pay attention to what they have to say so that they feel like someone is listening. That's another thing they like, they like it when men pay attention to them. It makes them feel special. (someone like IBM who puts everyone down doesn't have a chance, people don't want to be around losers or someone that make them feel like a loser.)
 

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Went to a friend's birthday party on friday and the owner of the house was a bald man, who was there the whole time and trying to guard us. Of course, when I stepped in the room and saw him, I jumped a few steps back and was frightened too of the NW7 look with a cm or 2 nape hair, but I soon found sympathy with that man.
He was of course like twice older than us, but still wanted to socialize a bit. And every time he tried to talk to us, he was being laughed -- but not of his insecurity that he of course also had, but of his bald head look. All kinds of jokes were made: that he is trying to bring in a new hairstyle trend, who wants to sleep beside him and etc. Of course all the girls started proving how they would never sleep with a bald men and I was dying from the inside at the same time. When I came, I had a surprisingly good mood, but I totally lost it after that. Soon someone pointed out that I was going bald from the top of my head too -- had no answer to that, but just silence (was just lucky that they still couldn't see my hairline under my monstrous fringe). So I just drank and if someone lost a hair, said "Looks like we're all going bald :)!".
Oh btw, that guy had a young son too who wasn't yet balding :D.

Girls are telling me that I should build an ego, but how can I do that, if every time I "joke" that I should shave my hair and become bald, they become disgusted.
 

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ali777 said:
I agree on the second part, but I dont agree with the first part. The female equivalent of us going bald isn't them being bald. I don't know what the most suitable analogy would be.

We are not talking about equivalent. The question was would these guys complaining about women not being into them because they are bald want to be with a woman who is bald herself? Or if she is not attractive? It's a simple question. I dont' want to hear the eye of the beholder because I'm saying attractive to the guy we are talking about.
 

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Fanjeera said:
Went to a friend's birthday party on friday and the owner of the house was a bald man, who was there the whole time and trying to guard us. Of course, when I stepped in the room and saw him, I jumped a few steps back and was frightened too of the NW7 look with a cm or 2 nape hair, but I soon found sympathy with that man.
He was of course like twice older than us, but still wanted to socialize a bit. And every time he tried to talk to us, he was being laughed -- but not of his insecurity that he of course also had, but of his bald head look. All kinds of jokes were made: that he is trying to bring in a new hairstyle trend, who wants to sleep beside him and etc. Of course all the girls started proving how they would never sleep with a bald men and I was dying from the inside at the same time. When I came, I had a surprisingly good mood, but I totally lost it after that. Soon someone pointed out that I was going bald from the top of my head too -- had no answer to that, but just silence (was just lucky that they still couldn't see my hairline under my monstrous fringe). So I just drank and if someone lost a hair, said "Looks like we're all going bald :)!".
Oh btw, that guy had a young son too who wasn't yet balding :D.

Girls are telling me that I should build an ego, but how can I do that, if every time I "joke" that I should shave my hair and become bald, they become disgusted.

Oh no, I don't believe that for a second. Haven't you heard? Bald is sexy, besides it is what is on the inside that girls are really attracted to. I'm sure this guys problem was that he was just not confident enough. Confidence is the answer to all of life's problems. I overcame terminal cancer on confidence alone, well maybe not alone- rainbows and butterflies helped too :) . Just the other day for instance, I forgot to put my pants on before leaving the house but do you know what? It didn't matter you see....because I had confidence. I was getting high fives left and right.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Haven't you heard? Bald is sexy, besides it is what is on the inside that girls are really attracted to.

That's what the girl I hooked up with told me... She thinks I should go for the shaved look :whistle:
 

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Oh no, I don't believe that for a second. Haven't you heard? Bald is sexy, besides it is what is on the inside that girls are really attracted to. I'm sure this guys problem was that he was just not confident enough. Confidence is the answer to all of life's problems. I overcame terminal cancer on confidence alone, well maybe not alone- rainbows and butterflies helped too :) . Just the other day for instance, I forgot to put my pants on before leaving the house but do you know what? It didn't matter you see....because I had confidence. I was getting high fives left and right.

You should definitely have your own show UMan.
 

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ali777 said:
That's what the girl I hooked up with told me... She thinks I should go for the shaved look :whistle:

There are just so many factors involved with that and you should know better. Answer these two questions.

Does everyone look the same (quality wise) with a shaved head? Aren't there other factors like skin tone, facial features, looks in gneral, body, head size etc?

Does a shaved NW2 or Norwood 3 look the same as a Norwood 6 or 7? Of course not.
 

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HatPrisoner91 said:
ali777 said:
That's what the girl I hooked up with told me... She thinks I should go for the shaved look :whistle:

There are just so many factors involved with that and you should know better. Answer these two questions.

Does everyone look the same (quality wise) with a shaved head? Aren't there other factors like skin tone, facial features, looks in gneral, body, head size etc?

Does a shaved NW2 or Norwood 3 look the same as a Norwood 6 or 7? Of course not.


Agreed. But that goes for ANY style weather it's hair or clothes etc. Although with hair you have alot more options obviously. So it's pretty hit or miss.
 

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Fanjeera said:
Went to a friend's birthday party on friday and the owner of the house was a bald man, who was there the whole time and trying to guard us. Of course, when I stepped in the room and saw him, I jumped a few steps back and was frightened too of the NW7 look with a cm or 2 nape hair, but I soon found sympathy with that man.
He was of course like twice older than us, but still wanted to socialize a bit. And every time he tried to talk to us, he was being laughed -- but not of his insecurity that he of course also had, but of his bald head look. All kinds of jokes were made: that he is trying to bring in a new hairstyle trend, who wants to sleep beside him and etc. Of course all the girls started proving how they would never sleep with a bald men and I was dying from the inside at the same time. When I came, I had a surprisingly good mood, but I totally lost it after that. Soon someone pointed out that I was going bald from the top of my head too -- had no answer to that, but just silence (was just lucky that they still couldn't see my hairline under my monstrous fringe). So I just drank and if someone lost a hair, said "Looks like we're all going bald :)!".
Oh btw, that guy had a young son too who wasn't yet balding :D.

Girls are telling me that I should build an ego, but how can I do that, if every time I "joke" that I should shave my hair and become bald, they become disgusted.

Your friends sound like idiots.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Fanjeera said:
Went to a friend's birthday party on friday and the owner of the house was a bald man, who was there the whole time and trying to guard us. Of course, when I stepped in the room and saw him, I jumped a few steps back and was frightened too of the NW7 look with a cm or 2 nape hair, but I soon found sympathy with that man.
He was of course like twice older than us, but still wanted to socialize a bit. And every time he tried to talk to us, he was being laughed -- but not of his insecurity that he of course also had, but of his bald head look. All kinds of jokes were made: that he is trying to bring in a new hairstyle trend, who wants to sleep beside him and etc. Of course all the girls started proving how they would never sleep with a bald men and I was dying from the inside at the same time. When I came, I had a surprisingly good mood, but I totally lost it after that. Soon someone pointed out that I was going bald from the top of my head too -- had no answer to that, but just silence (was just lucky that they still couldn't see my hairline under my monstrous fringe). So I just drank and if someone lost a hair, said "Looks like we're all going bald :)!".
Oh btw, that guy had a young son too who wasn't yet balding :D.

Girls are telling me that I should build an ego, but how can I do that, if every time I "joke" that I should shave my hair and become bald, they become disgusted.

hmmm, not sure if the sarcasm really helps anyone buddy (apart from it being funny ofcourse :p )

the bald head obviously made that guy an easy target but so did hte fact he was older and probably not "tuned in" to the younger crowd. those factors created a difficult situation for him. but say whatever you want i bet even he could have turned it around if he handled it well.....easier said than done obviously but if you truly believe every bald head is a figure of fun like that in every social circle then you're wrong. easy target, source of banter maybe but rarely should it exclude a person from a social circle - idiots like that are just idiots

Oh no, I don't believe that for a second. Haven't you heard? Bald is sexy, besides it is what is on the inside that girls are really attracted to. I'm sure this guys problem was that he was just not confident enough. Confidence is the answer to all of life's problems. I overcame terminal cancer on confidence alone, well maybe not alone- rainbows and butterflies helped too :) . Just the other day for instance, I forgot to put my pants on before leaving the house but do you know what? It didn't matter you see....because I had confidence. I was getting high fives left and right.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Fanjeera said:
Went to a friend's birthday party on friday and the owner of the house was a bald man, who was there the whole time and trying to guard us. Of course, when I stepped in the room and saw him, I jumped a few steps back and was frightened too of the NW7 look with a cm or 2 nape hair, but I soon found sympathy with that man.
He was of course like twice older than us, but still wanted to socialize a bit. And every time he tried to talk to us, he was being laughed -- but not of his insecurity that he of course also had, but of his bald head look. All kinds of jokes were made: that he is trying to bring in a new hairstyle trend, who wants to sleep beside him and etc. Of course all the girls started proving how they would never sleep with a bald men and I was dying from the inside at the same time. When I came, I had a surprisingly good mood, but I totally lost it after that. Soon someone pointed out that I was going bald from the top of my head too -- had no answer to that, but just silence (was just lucky that they still couldn't see my hairline under my monstrous fringe). So I just drank and if someone lost a hair, said "Looks like we're all going bald :)!".
Oh btw, that guy had a young son too who wasn't yet balding :D.

Girls are telling me that I should build an ego, but how can I do that, if every time I "joke" that I should shave my hair and become bald, they become disgusted.


Oh no, I don't believe that for a second. Haven't you heard? Bald is sexy, besides it is what is on the inside that girls are really attracted to. I'm sure this guys problem was that he was just not confident enough. Confidence is the answer to all of life's problems. I overcame terminal cancer on confidence alone, well maybe not alone- rainbows and butterflies helped too :) . Just the other day for instance, I forgot to put my pants on before leaving the house but do you know what? It didn't matter you see....because I had confidence. I was getting high fives left and right.

hmmm, not sure if the sarcasm really helps anyone buddy (apart from it being funny ofcourse :p )

the bald head obviously made that guy an easy target but so did hte fact he was older and probably not "tuned in" to the younger crowd. those factors created a difficult situation for him. but say whatever you want i bet even he could have turned it around if he handled it well.....easier said than done obviously but if you truly believe every bald head is a figure of fun like that in every social circle then you're wrong. easy target, source of banter maybe but rarely should it exclude a person from a social circle - idiots like that are just idiots
 

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ANDREW_J_I said:
Women looking for love on dating websites are five times more likely to contact men with a full head of hair than those who are thinning on top, a study said.
A two-month experiment, conducted on behalf of hair loss treatment specialists Maximum Hair, posted two profiles on a variety of popular internet forums.
The photographs used were of the same man - except one was doctored to show him thinning on top and the other with a full head of hair.


http://news.uk.msn.com/odd-news/article ... d=15498107

Great! Lifes sh*t....

The report is worthless if they don't show us the pictures.
 

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Luckily for me, I was married before my hair loss got bad.
I recently asked my wife (who is twelve years younger than me) if she would have ever give me a second look if I had been as thin on top when we first met as I am now. She assured me she would have, but that's what I expected her to say. Who knows if she's being honest? She might not even know for sure herself. I know she does love me, but if my dome had been shining when we met all those years ago, I wonder if she'd have given herself a chance to know me. She is very enthusiastic about me trying to stop losing hair and getting some back. I never knew it bothered her, but she's not the kind of person to criticize. I'm glad I found her.
 
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