Would you date a bald girl?

yetti

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It's all relative to experience, and nothing more.

As far as true confidence goes, to some extent that's true.

But look, this is a chicken and egg thing, and if one is so "honest" that one cannot be perceived as confident enough to get the job or date in the first place, then one has much less of a chance of getting the relevant experience, doesn't one. It's like making yourself a loser before you even get a chance to start. A dude who goes to job interview after job interview, and when asked and looks down and says, "maybe I can do it, yeah, maybe", rather than a strong "I'm confident I can do it", may well never get a great job - and thus the experience to become truly confident.
 

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It's all relative to experience, and nothing more.


You attack the problem head on. In return you may fail or succeed but the result is experience in your own capabilities.


Getting rid of fear, doubt, anxiety, and tention through real life situations, and scenarios will make you more confident in your abilities.



go tell a boxer to be confident! dellusion. How is going to articulate his skills if he's never been hit, knocked down and put others in the same situation. Should he take zumba, and shadow box.. teach him to be 'confident'


Socializing is a skill. KNowing how to articulate your skills, and present ideas... is largely influenced by environment, and experience, Also genetics. You cannot be 'confident with a women' unless you go through trial and error. Fail, succeed and acquire experience through different scenarios.


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Nice, I like this. You should be a motivational speaker for balding people... seriously, go make millions my friend.
 

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it's hard to be confident when you don't have pre-existing experience, and credentials to fortify this belief.


Even harder when you don't look good, you almost never feel good.

So tell a bald guy to be confident who has little experience. it aint happening.


Dude I have had interviews where I thought I layed it down. All is well until I get a phone call/email from HR saying NADDA. I guess it will numb the pain temporarily, but reality and the end result will be the same.

U are essentially telling me to dellude myself, and my own capabilities. Perhaps I can skew numbers, and beef up what I have to offer... but you cannot pull confidence out of thin air. You need material to work with.
 

yetti

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it's hard to be confident when you don't have pre-existing experience, and credentials to fortify this belief.

It's hard to be confident, but not nearly as hard to act confident.

So tell a bald guy to be confident who has little experience. it aint happening.

I wouldn't tell anyone to be confident, and I agree that's foolish. But I would tell someone to act confident. And again, people do this everywhere, many with great success. I'm not reinventing the wheel here. In every successful job interview where someone says "I'm confident I can do this", is he? Does every presidential candidate actually think they'll win? No, but they absolutely understand that the perception of confidence is attractive, so much so that without it they don't have a chance.
 

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What a silly post. Of course people put up an act. In a job interview, you think it's somehow shameful to portray yourself as being sure that you can do a good job, even if you're privately nervous? You are saying that you should say, well, I'm not confident I can do it? Without EXPERIENCE, we should not ever act confident? LOL

It doesn't matter. If you're competent you know you can do the job based on past experience. If you're some inexperienced noob, you're going to want to come off as 'confident' but it's of course a lie.
 

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Being competent for a job interview is simply a matter of practise, and knowing how to articulate your skills through speech.

A lot of new graduate kids have credentials but have zero idea how to compose, and articulate themself in a manner that makes them a competitive force against others. That's the problem with people who have a **** hair worth of experience. However, when they get a internship put on their plate, and free ride... after their renowned experience they become a ten fold more confident in their abilities.


They get staggered. I sucked at interviews, but now I'm good at them. it's trial and error. Failure, and reward.



I remember trying to be confident without reciting anything, just going cold turkey. I drank a ****load of coffee, my thoughts were staggered, and rekt. I probably came off uncontrollably confident, but delusional at the same time. I was upright, firm hand shakes but when it came to to talk about my skills I was half-retarded. Tension, anxiety, and hot feelings..... I pseudo pumped myself up before the interview, even after I left. I got the job brah type mentality. Long story short, I got a 'we will keep your resume on file for future'
 

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I remember how I was confident at my first interview and how I failed it.

And remember how I wasn't confident but had more skills on another and passed.

Easy analogy with having a good looks or no. Confidence matters but only let's say 10%, but looks matter much more, let's say 50+%.

Confidence + looks = passed
Confidence + ugliness = failed
No confidence + looks = passed
 

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Thanks for the video Paris, I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry (haha! sob-sob!)
Do we even know yet CB's overall potential? I'm looking forward to seeing more "experimenters" b/a pics.-)

It does look great. I even remember some acne related study calling it an "ideal" topical anti androgen (and this kind of vocabulary in a research paper is pretty rare!) . The reason why the reports are rare are 1) the lack of reliable source 2) the (ridiculously high) price.
 

yetti

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I was upright, firm hand shakes but when it came to to talk about my skills I was half-retarded.

Obviously I'm not suggesting that if you act confident but then sound "half retarded" when talking about skills that's going to work. The point is that it's an advantage to come off as confident in yourself, or the outcome of a situation (like an election).

Now, I would say that it's a very big advantage. Huge. Some here for whatever reason think, not so much apparently. That's fine. But the point is that think it would be advantageous to stop talking about confidence as if the only thing to consider is whether or not a person actually IS confident. In fact, if you want something from another person, what most matters is how you are perceived by that person. Be it an attempt to get a date, a job interview, or whatever. Every dude or dudette in a bar who hooks up is not in fact confident. But the many of the ones who aren't managed to fake it. And of course, if you fake something a few times and meet success, then that translates into experience and then real confidence (from predictability). As it relates to this thread, yes, some guys would be very pleased to date a bald girl. But whether or not that bald girl is confident (fake or not) enough to talk to the guy, or even approach him, is indeed entirely relevant. So the odd sarcastic "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH CONFIDENCE?" replies that are posted in virtually every thread in this board just don't make sense.

One more thing to consider. You say again and again that true confidence comes from predictability of success, having the experience of success. OK. So it's fair to reason that if a person comes off as confident, then this is a strong indicator that they have been and will be successful. So being (or seeming) confident says to the world, I'm successful, I have experience and am good at this. I'm a winner, go with me. This is part of the reason why confidence is so very attractive to people.
 

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Obviously I'm not suggesting that if you act confident but then sound "half retarded" when talking about skills that's going to work. The point is that it's an advantage to come off as confident in yourself, or the outcome of a situation (like an election).

Now, I would say that it's a very big advantage. Huge. Some here for whatever reason think, not so much apparently. That's fine. But the point is that think it would be advantageous to stop talking about confidence as if the only thing to consider is whether or not a person actually IS confident. In fact, if you want something from another person, what most matters is how you are perceived by that person. Be it an attempt to get a date, a job interview, or whatever. Every dude or dudette in a bar who hooks up is not in fact confident. But the many of the ones who aren't managed to fake it. And of course, if you fake something a few times and meet success, then that translates into experience and then real confidence (from predictability). As it relates to this thread, yes, some guys would be very pleased to date a bald girl. But whether or not that bald girl is confident (fake or not) enough to talk to the guy, or even approach him, is indeed entirely relevant. So the odd sarcastic "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH CONFIDENCE?" replies that are posted in virtually every thread in this board just don't make sense.

One more thing to consider. You say again and again that true confidence comes from predictability of success, having the experience of success. OK. So it's fair to reason that if a person comes off as confident, then this is a strong indicator that they have been and will be successful. So being (or seeming) confident says to the world, I'm successful, I have experience and am good at this. I'm a winner, go with me. This is part of the reason why confidence is so very attractive to people.

Your argument sounds true, but you're also creating the context to make it true.
You name job interviews. Job interviews are occasions in which you are asked to talk about yourself. There is the occasion, you show confidence. What should you do? Of course you try and show you won't be a dick at work.

Sexual relationships are different, IMHO, and are becoming more and more sui generis type of interactions.
Why? Because seldom will a woman come to you and ask you to talk about yourself (unless of course you're a good looking yourself).

More often than not, before you talk to a lady, there will have preventively been a game of glances and gestures that suggest if she's attracted or not, and if he's attracted or not (or he/he, or she/she, whatever suits you).
Sure, you might as well go talk to her even if she shows no interest in you, but man is it hard to pull off.

This is true in pretty much all cultures. Take tango. You don't invite just any "tanguera" to dance. There is a ritual called the "mirata" that serves the purpose of understanding, with your eyes, if she wants to dance or not. I once asked a "tanguera" lady: how does a man know if she actually wants or not just from the eyes? She replied: oh, he will know.

There will be indeed casual occasions in which you can actually talk to a lady and show you know who you are and how you could make her happy. But these types of interaction are rarer by the day. The more "visual", and "virtual" interactions are more and more frequent. I think it is partly due to the explosions of the "images in the pocket", i.e. the smartphones. We're bombarded by hundreds of narcissistic images of people showing off and we're so engulfed by them that we don't want to listen to words anymore. We think they're irrelevant and all the world around us seems to agree.

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But what success there can be for a bald average looking guy?

You need to be lucky. If you're lucky, you'll find that one girl that really doesn't care for looks. There are. But they're a few. While ugly guys are A LOT.
 

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"you'll find that one girl that really doesn't care for looks" you mean an ugly looking girl that will try to get a man that looks at least like her? you call that lucky?
 

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"you'll find that one girl that really doesn't care for looks" you mean an ugly looking girl that will try to get a man that looks at least like her? you call that lucky?
I did not say she would be ugly. I think there are indeed cute girls who like bald men. But they're not a lot, unfortunately; otherwise, you and I wouldn't be here writing.
 

yetti

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Your argument sounds true, but you're also creating the context to make it true.
You name job interviews. Job interviews are occasions in which you are asked to talk about yourself. There is the occasion, you show confidence. What should you do? Of course you try and show you won't be a dick at work.

Sexual relationships are different, IMHO, and are becoming more and more sui generis type of interactions.
Why? Because seldom will a woman come to you and ask you to talk about yourself (unless of course you're a good looking yourself).

More often than not, before you talk to a lady, there will have preventively been a game of glances and gestures that suggest if she's attracted or not, and if he's attracted or not (or he/he, or she/she, whatever suits you).
Sure, you might as well go talk to her even if she shows no interest in you, but man is it hard to pull off.

This is true in pretty much all cultures. Take tango. You don't invite just any "tanguera" to dance. There is a ritual called the "mirata" that serves the purpose of understanding, with your eyes, if she wants to dance or not. I once asked a "tanguera" lady: how does a man know if she actually wants or not just from the eyes? She replied: oh, he will know.

There will be indeed casual occasions in which you can actually talk to a lady and show you know who you are and could make her happy. But these types of interaction are getting rarer by the day. The more "visual", and "virtual" interactions are more and more important. I think it is partly due to the explosions of the "images in the pocket", i.e. the smartphones. We're bombarded by hundreds of narcissistic images of people showing off and we're so engulfed by them that we don't want to listen to words anymore. We think they're irrelevant and all the world around us seems to agree.

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You need to be lucky. If you're lucky, you'll find that one girl that really doesn't care for looks. There are. But they're a few. While ugly guys are A LOT.


Nice post. I don't agree with all of it but it is both well-reasoned and also not sarcastic. I salute you!

I don't think exuding confidence necessarily means talking about yourself. In fact too much talk about yourself is boring and comes off as arrogant, self-centered. It can even come off as being unconfident and insecure! (why does he keep telling me about his stupid award?) So in the job interview situation of course, yes, you do want to talk yourself up a bit, but in other situations it might be the reverse, or something else entirely. So in the situation you mentioned, the game of glances and gestures... initiating or returning fun and flirty eye contact, positioning your body in an open position and toward someone, rather than closed and away, can indicate one's confidence in one's ability and fitness as a lover. Then asking someone questions, listening, and asking follow-up questions can indicate confidence in oneself - I'm confident enough in myself to let you be the focus of attention for a while rather than childishly, insecurely grabbing the spotlight for myself. Etc. So it depends... but certainly I wouldnt say that confidence always means talking about yourself.

As for lucky... I dunno. To some extent. Not to be cheesy here, but as the dude says in Titanic, you make your own luck. Not always, but ... well if you're not a great looking guy and always go for 10's, it's not going to work. If you stay at home posting on the internet rather than getting out and approaching people, it's not going to work. If you think you'll get dates on Tinder based on your bad photo, it's not going to work. And you'll be "unlucky". But if you can figure out a way to put out some charisma - and yes coming off as confident is part of that - and if you're smart about where you situate yourself and who you talk to, then sure. Maybe you'll never get a date on Tinder, or with a model, but what about the kinda cute but bored looking waitress at the local diner who you always charm a little bit when you order? She might be free... and who knows it could turn into "luck". What about the girl who you notice is always sitting alone and reading on the same bench every Sunday. Maybe you have a comment or question about her book, and it could lead to a conversation? And then perhaps a date. So... was it luck?
 

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I think we're pretty much on the same page. You need to know yourself, strengths and limits, and make the best of them.
 

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I've seen several polls on G@G with similar questions. Ironically, it seems that MEN are more accepting of bald WOMEN than the other way around (I can't post links, so you'll have to search for them yourself, if you want to see the results)

baldwoman.jpg
 

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So wait.. there aren’t bald chicks in this thread looking for a bae? Fking clickbait titles..
 
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