Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Dav1234]

willing to take everything ti stop hairloss not willing to cut off my balls like adri though. Only point I won’t go too.

 

[BeardCombover]

willing to take everything ti stop hairloss not willing to cut off my balls like adri though. Only point I won’t go too.

Enzalutamide+Gnrh. And still need blood test for deficiencies and a trichology test.

 

[Dav1234]

Enzalutamide+Gnrh. And still need blood test for deficiencies and a trichology test

anyone know of websites I can order these medications? I can get bica and estrogen prescribed but not anything stronger.

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

Liver, veins. Better use Aspirin mono. Im on it, no hairloss.

I will make sure to test liver every 3-6 months. As for veins, I'll use the aspirin. Thanks man

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

Looking to start xyon topical finasteride, it’s expensive but my body even with estrogen and bica can’t tolerate the uprrgulation of oral finasteride.

If estrogen and Bica cannot halt your hairloss, then I'm afraid nothing will...Unless you have accessible Darolutamide (somehow) and you're sure to be on a high dose E that would annihilate your Testosterone

 

[BeardCombover]

I will make sure to test liver every 3-6 months. As for veins, I'll use the aspirin. Thanks man

Np man. Im not on HRT atm tho, im literally on mono aspirin and it stoped my hairloss. =)
Regardless, everything you said is still relevant if you're really considering 8mg oral (which is too much, IMO).

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

anyone know of websites I can order these medications? I can get bica and estrogen prescribed but not anything stronger.

Estrogen can replace GnRH because a high dose E will suppress your T

As for Enzalutamide, it's extremely expensive & complicated since it's still on patent and no generics are available atm.

You're better off being on E and raising Bica dose to 150 mg + mandatory liver blood tests every 3 months than being prescribed Enzalutamide

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

Np man. Im not on HRT atm tho, im literally on mono aspirin and it stoped my hairloss. =)
Regardless, everything you said is still relevant if you're really considering 8mg oral (which is too much, IMO).

I'll take 8 mg sublingual not oral. Since E pills here are (converted to) $5 for 2mg / 28 pills and without prescription . It's very cheap and doable.

I may even raise dose to 10 mg a day but I don't wanna go above 8 mg tbh

Btw how did mono aspirin stop androgenetic alopecia ?

 

[BeardCombover]

I'll take 8 mg sublingual not oral. Since E pills here are (converted to) $5 for 2mg / 28 pills and without prescription . It's very cheap and doable.

About half of the pill still reach stomach even with sublingual, but you do you. =)

Btw how did mono aspirin stop androgenetic alopecia ?

Im not too sure myself. =) Salicylic acid topically is often used to treat seb derm and inflamation tho, so i guess oral might be even better in that regard. It also dried my skin. Improved bloodflow due to blood thinning properties could contribute too, in theory.

 

[BeardCombover]

Estrogen can replace GnRH because a high dose E will suppress your T

LH supression is more stable on gnrh agonists, cause they work directly on the receptor. E is more systemic, hence more metabolisation and interactions and LH will always fluctuate more on E in comparison.

As for Enzalutamide, it's extremely expensive & complicated since it's still on patent and no generics are available atm.

Damn.. Last time i checked, like 3 years ago, enza powder was pretty common and pretty cheap from chinese sellers. Guess not anymore. =(

 

[SnortingFinasteride]

LH supression is more stable on gnrh agonists, cause they work directly on the receptor. E is more systemic, hence more metabolisation and interactions and LH will always fluctuate more on E in comparison

Not if you supply your body with constant E levels between 250 pg/ml and 450 pg/ml. These doses will keep your T in castrate range, and would even have cytotoxic effects on your balls down the line since E is poisonous to male testicles in high doses.

If the whole purpos of suppressing LH is to suppress T, and you have no issues taking E, then go with E. Less medication, the better

Damn.. Last time i checked, like 3 years ago, enza powder was pretty common and pretty cheap from chinese sellers. Guess not anymore. =(

yeah...I would not trust chinese sellers and their powders if you don't have easy means of verifying those powders with the help of a lab. Also, enzalutamide doses are in the mg range i.e very very small. You would need to accurately measure each dose if you don't wanna die of liver failure

 

[losingbattle88]

LH supression is more stable on gnrh agonists, cause they work directly on the receptor. E is more systemic, hence more metabolisation and interactions and LH will always fluctuate more on E in comparison.

Damn.. Last time i checked, like 3 years ago, enza powder was pretty common and pretty cheap from chinese sellers. Guess not anymore. =(

How much aspirin do you take in mg and how many times in a day?

 

[losingbattle88]

If estrogen and Bica cannot halt your hairloss, then I'm afraid nothing will...Unless you have accessible Darolutamide (somehow) and you're sure to be on a high dose E that would annihilate your Testosterone

Castration will. Just ask adri. Hes a calm eunuch now. Neither woman nor man.

 

[sg2000]

Indeed NW0 hairline looks good

bro your hair looks really good im really happy for you.
But do you think you would have recovered if you just stayed on high dose estradiol or your same regimen ?
I dont get it isnt hrt the same as castration?

 

[sg2000]

i mean if you had 99x estradiol vials and 99 box of aas and other sh*t would you do the same??

 

[sg2000]

LH supression is more stable on gnrh agonists, cause they work directly on the receptor. E is more systemic, hence more metabolisation and interactions and LH will always fluctuate more on E in comparison.

Damn.. Last time i checked, like 3 years ago, enza powder was pretty common and pretty cheap from chinese sellers. Guess not anymore. =(

bruv you seem an hair loss expert in your opinion what is the best regimen to stop miniaturization 4 evaaa??

 

[sg2000]

i mean if your T gets in female range (wether with estradiol,aas and other sh*t )and assuming your taking a 5ari too arent you just stopping miniaturiztion process and balding already?Not talking about regrowth

 

[Adri23]

bro your hair looks really good im really happy for you.

Thank you!

But do you think you would have recovered if you just stayed on high dose estradiol or your same regimen ?
I dont get it isnt hrt the same as castration?

I am not sure. With hrt alone i didnt recover much hair and I was on it for almost 3 years.

i mean if you had 99x estradiol vials and 99 box of aas and other sh*t would you do the same??

Prob I would cause as I said I wanted revenge against those bastard

i mean if your T gets in female range (wether with estradiol,aas and other sh*t )and assuming your taking a 5ari too arent you just stopping miniaturiztion process and balding already?Not talking about regrowth

For some reason my dht wasnt getting low not even on 2.5 mg dutas daily. Now with castration it is lowering again somehow

 

[sg2000]

but do you think hrt plus 5ari can at worst stop miniaturization process?
I mean you stayed on it 3 years and i assum your hair never got to initial baseline and you were able to maintain some hair growth am i correct??

 

[Adri23]

but do you think hrt plus 5ari can at worst stop miniaturization process?
I mean you stayed on it 3 years and i assum your hair never got to initial baseline and you were able to maintain some hair growth am i correct??

Yeah I'd say it never came back to the pre dutasteride baseline but it was getting as bad as when dutasteride stopped working back when I wasnt on hrt. I dont know if more time would have lead to more hair loss.