All we need to know about Bimatoprost for regrowth

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LooseItAll

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blaze said:
i have not used ru yet so i wouldnt know.

but i have used bimatoprost eyedrops before and it did yield some results but not worth the time or money for 3ml bottles @ 0.03%.

i am going to use around 0.1% strength. if i dont notice results i will know if its not real.

OC did not provide the hnmr to test it anyway. i thought they were supposed to?

Either way OC and henry seem like good people, i doubt he would sell everyone 100mg of RU. i am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

i think people said ru smelled like paint once dissolved. We will see what BIM smells like dissolved.

Aren't Lumigan drops 0.3% instead of 0.03% of Latisse?
 

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LooseItAll said:
blaze said:
i have not used ru yet so i wouldnt know.

but i have used bimatoprost eyedrops before and it did yield some results but not worth the time or money for 3ml bottles @ 0.03%.

i am going to use around 0.1% strength. if i dont notice results i will know if its not real.

OC did not provide the hnmr to test it anyway. i thought they were supposed to?

Either way OC and henry seem like good people, i doubt he would sell everyone 100mg of RU. i am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

i think people said ru smelled like paint once dissolved. We will see what BIM smells like dissolved.

Aren't Lumigan drops 0.3% instead of 0.03% of Latisse?

Lumigan is 0.03% and both only use a water based vehicle which is not optimal for topical application.
 

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blaze said:
Finally received my BIM .

I ripped the sticky off the small glass bottle so I could see the powder. Yes mine is caked too. I tapped the bottle so the powder would fall to the bottom but it didnt.

I have not opened the bottle yet. What I am going to do is weigh the bottle with the powder in it. The scales I have coming weigh to 1mg.

I will pour 100ml of minoxidil 5% into a larger glass. After I weigh the bottle with the powder in it I will write down the exact weight. Then I will open the very small bottle and submerge it and the lid in 100ml of minoxidil 5%. This should get all the powder to dissolve. I will cover the top of the glass with a lid or serane wrap to prevent evaporation.

Then I will use tongs and take out the lid and bottle. I will try and shake the residue minoxidil 5%/BIM solution off the bottle and lid as well. Next let the bottle and lid dry out and pour the 100ml minoxidil/BIM solution into a 100ml dropper bottle which I still have to buy.

When the lid and bottle dry i will put the lid back on the bottle and weigh it again. I will then subtract that weight from the original weight(which was the bottle and the powder). It should come to 100mg.


***Has anyone been in contact with OC about this cakey powder yet?

***Has anyone attempted to use this powder yet?

My Bim was fine.
 

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Enden, so you think this is the result of being tainted with a liquid?

Anyone else contacted OC yet? I sent a quick email and the reply was this could be due to static charge. :whistle: Can someone run this and preferably the whole situation by a chemistry student to get their reaction? Looks like it got wet to me.

Keep in mind we paid with credit cards for a reason....
 

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Enden,that sucks! If you want, I will sell you my 200 mg of Bimatoprost. I have decided against using it. I lost a little bit of powder when i took off the lid, but the majority of it is there.
 

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Weighing this powder out for smaller batches at a time is too hard with the state this powder is in and such a small amount.

Best to make 1 big mix I think.

I am thinking of opening the bottle and seeing how letting air get to it effects the powder but at the same time I dont wont to risk compromising the BIM.

I suppose in about 6 weeks we will see if people are noticing any hair grow will be the real test.
 

blaze

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Rabid said:
Been using it a few days now. It dissolves, behaves differently than RU.


I was planning to remove it all to verify the total amount, but it's impossible to extract without liquifying because a lot of powder's all caked up in the seal grooves and lid. :thumbdown2:

Rabid what strength are you making?

And what is the vehicle you are using?
 

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So I still haven't started using my Bimatoprost yet but after reading this thread I decided to finally take it out of it's package and take a look at it to see how mine is. I was supposed to get 200mg and I thought I might have read people who got 200mg got TWO vials.. I only got one vial so I'm not sure I actually got 200mg. Mine does appear to be dry though, a little bit stuck up top but when I shake the bottle it all moves around just fine.

I took a picture, I am mostly concerned if you guys think it looks like 100mg or 200mg.. From my several months experience of weighing out about 100mg of RU I want to say this seems like more but I can't be sure.

http://imgur.com/1rU6G
 

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Definitely 200 mg, and it looks dry. I'm going to use RU58841 only, after spilling most of my bimatoprost powder by accident. I got the new vehicle today (the original).
 

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So, how many people got powder which isn't completely dry? Rabid, blaze, Enden. The rest is good? I think all the 100 mgs were the first to go out. All the 200 mgs should be fine, judging by big3nme's powder.
 

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Also got my 200 in one bottle and matches up to the picture. Powder clings to the bottle but give it a bit of a smack and it settles to the bottom. So static charge seems the case in my situation it seems.

In the freezer until my scale and Kirkland 5% comes in.

Sorry Eden about your mishap, if you were in Canada would send you a bit.

Believe OC has done what it promised just issue with the wetness of the smaller
bottles. Sure there is a way to remedy this. If someone asked and got a reply please post for future buyers.

Being the trail blazers for the endeavor a few things can go wrong so hopefully
all will learn from it. Bonus hopefully success and a few thank you's from the folks that follow.

Good luck all, will share what I can.
 

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I got 200mg as well - I managed to get most of the powder out, wouldn't call it a smooth prodedure however - and couldn't get it all out - so will liquify remains.

Made up a batch - been using 1mg a day - so far so good, no irritation or side effects at all. Can't tell if there is any shedding because my hair is buzzzeed

The research on this is very promising - hoping to see some great results...
 

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curiousguy said:
Being the trail blazers for the endeavor a few things can go wrong so hopefully
all will learn from it. Bonus hopefully success and a few thank you's from the folks that follow.

Definately, i think what you guys is doing is great. Your true pioneers, wish you the best of luck!
 

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moshe123 said:
sorry for the ignorrance...those who already started using it just mixed it with minoxidil or use it as onother topical....and another thing....did someone noticed any initial shedding?

The thread is long, but in English... basically, we're the first ones ever to seriously attempt working with this stuff on the scalp. Any previous human use has been with much smaller doses. So nothing is known for sure right now, but stay tuned...

Weren't you having health problems with minoxidil? I was too. You might want to join our bimatoprost experiment. You could probably buy some off someone here. :)
 

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teenhandmodel said:
judging by the powders consistency, how it dissolves, etc, how confident are you that it is not RU ?

My feeling was that it's not RU, but I wouldn't put too much faith in that. Could be a million other things. Testing is a must at this point.

blaze said:
Rabid what strength are you making?

And what is the vehicle you are using?

.05% strength, 50/50 PG ethanol vehicle. How do we know whatever tainted our bimatoprost has not ruined our bimatoprost?
 

Rabid

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powersam said:
Getting less than you paid for, in questionable condition, is not acceptable.
:agree:

Has anyone even been able to measure their entire amount yet? At this point, we don't know if we got what we paid for, and the condition is still questionable.
 

blaze

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As I said before:

You need to have scales that weigh to 0.001g, which is equivalent to 1mg.

- Weigh the bottle with the powder in it.
- Dissolve the powder in your vehicle, liquifying the powder stuck in the bottle too.
- Let the bottle and lid dry.
- When dry weigh the bottle and lid again, it should weigh 100 or 200mg less than what it did when you initially weighed it.

I re-checked my powder again and it seems dry from looking at it in the bottle. Like the other guy said, give it a flick and the powder moves around. There is some stuck around the rim of the bottle though. Maybe it is static?
 

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Just chiming in to say I started "treatment" today with my Bimatoprost.

I put 34mg into a 60ml bottle of minoxidil and will use 2ml per day in the morning.

At the same time I will be using 100mg daily of RU in the evenings with my minoxidil.


So 1mg Bim + minoxidil in 2ml morning
and 100mg RU + minoxidil in 2ml evening.
 

John979

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TBH, perhaps we are being a bit paranoid here. IMHO, given the markups on the products, our vendors are best served by selling real product.

I purchased 100 mg, enough for a 3 month experiment. While I appreciate the concerns of others regarding water absorbtion, I am not worried right now. I mixed it up and started applying ASAP.

My two cents is that unless there is a compelling cost reason, we should stick with one vendor for each product, i.e. X "approved" for bitamoprost, Y "approved" for RU, Z "approved" for CB.

One vendor could supply two products, but its best to keep a dual channel in the event of problems. Initially, each order should be tested. One quallity is assured, random sampling thereafter.
 
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