Armando and everyone,
Look at this repair picture from hairsite:
http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php ... &mode=full . Its at the beginning of a thread. The guy whose head is butchered HAD HAIR when he got the plugs. He was just "buffing up" his hairline. Perhaps he was a non-responder to propecia or minoxidil, but the rest of his hair fell out around the plugs, thus his freakish-frankenstinian appearance. This illustrates that there is a difference in the susceptibility in the hair's and their ability to miniaturize OBVIOUSLY.
Now if I know Aramando, I expect some half-assed reply in undiscernable faulty English that allows him to skirt the issue. The plugs have been KEPT short, they have not miniaturized. They have sebaceous glands, and make sebum. Still havent miniaturized. They have been given the same "amount of attention" (WTF???!!!) as the hair in between them, yet they remain. Stephen Foote believes that they have a fibrose scaffold created around them thus protecting the dermal papilla from higher tissue fluid pressure (and probably helping drainage somewhat if the galea was punctured during the surgery). Armando has no explanation for this since the plugs make sebum just like the thinning hair does. They NEVER go away. Dr. Gary Hitzig's plugs from the late SEVENTIES are still up front on his head. Still big, and all there.
Copper peptides have nothing to do with sebum to any large extent, and they regrow some lost hair and help a man keep what he has, why Armando?
SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO GET OFF MY CHEST>>>>>>>>>>>>>IF anyone comes up with a @@@@WRONG@@@@ alternative baldness theory that tells men they dont have to treat it from an anti-androgenic standpoint (by telling them to just grow their hair long) they are COSTING YOUNG MEN their damned hair. It HURTS them, and wastes their f*****g time and hair when they could be doing something constructive about it. That is what pisses me off about left-field theories that are easily disproven.
Docj077,
There is a gal named Holly who posts over at Hairloss-reversible.com. Her doctor prescribed her some DHEA for whatever malady a while back. She started having bitemporal recession. It didnt stop after her getting off the DHEA supplements all at once either. She is trying to regrow bitemporal recession, and hasn't had much luck. Ive read "somewhere" that DHEA or DHEAS can be converted by sulfites into DHT. Ive also read it speculated "somewhere"---(I rarely write things down) that androstenidione can be oxidized into DHT. I dont know if either of these are true, but Holly (posts as bumblebee now) is a real woman who has lost hair after getting on DHEA>
By the way, Widows peak..................beta sitosterol is *thought* to somewhat inhibit androgens from binding to receptors. There is a patent taken out in Japan for its topical usage in male pattern baldness. Its the one common ingredient in saw palmetto, african pygeum, stinging nettles, and pumpkin seeds. It only occurs in high incidence in two natural compounds, corn oil (associated with cancer in lab rats used topically) and pine oil (tall oil)----which usually occurs as an industrial by-product. Its in avocado oil also, but not much. Its from 10-18% of pine oil. Im currently putting that on the back of one hand to see if it has an anti-androgenic effect and makes the body hair there sparser. Wont know anything until at least November. I'll report what success Ive had. We do know this however, for whatever reason, pine oil has been found in Iron and Bronze age Celtic mummies heads in Ireland. The article I read about that states they used it as a hair gel. From using it in my head a couple of times to see if it was a styling aid, I can tell you forcefully that isnt true and it does little or nothing in that regard. The Gauls that Julius Ceasar encountered in Europe used lime in their hair according to Ceasar's "The Conquest of Gaul" that I read a few years back.