Did You Acknowledge Hairloss Right Away Or Did You Live In Denial/delusion For A While?

[Rudiger]

Getting dates or going out and meeting a woman means absolutely dick all man, please get that through your head, it's about the end result which most likely ends in nothing. There are other factors like social skills and personality and keeping them interested which is something I have always struggled in. I'm an introvert and I am shy.

Just because you go out with a broad doesn't mean she will f*** you.

No, but if a 9/10 girl a generation younger than you is going out of her way to get a date with you (and actually, I'd consider it "desperate", certainly if I bothered a girls f*****g grandmother to get a number I'd feel desperate) then you should find it easy to be in control of a relationship with a 7/10 girl your own age, even maybe more attractive than that.

I'm confident in my looks and you won't often find me complaining much about women on here because that'd be almost a slap in the face to those who find true struggles, I have friends who can get more attention than I, and it's hard to imagine anyone getting a 9/10 chick so wet for them in broad daylight. The only time I've been so lucky was when the girl was stupendously drunk, there was some weird agenda, or there was something significantly wrong with her mentally.

Other than that pretty much even Chad's have to put work in to get anywhere with a top tier woman.

I agree with Roberto you do seem like a troll after being back only 1 day, I saw you back and legit thought "good" and read some posts and then thought "did someone hack his account?"

But nobody hacked your account, I'm sure it is you, it's just that sh*t ain't adding up.

Anyway, now that a super hot girl has interest you're revealing that your personality will screw you over anyway because you're so shy, but I thought baldness was the problem? And then it's revealed that you've been a sly bald since 20 anyway, so although the little dots of a hairline can indeed make a difference, baldness has hardly impacted you at all.

Sure maybe you could land a Boeing on your forehead, but so could Freddie Ljungberg. You don't have to follow the facial thirds rule to a tee, that's a general application that makes sense for MOST people, you are not one of them, so nobody gives a sh*t about a big forehead if the bottom half significantly makes up for it.

Good luck with this girl not having severe mental problems (or maybe that would suit?).

 

[Roberto_72]

My first hint of my bad genes was when I was 12. On TV (it was the 80s) they said there was possibly a new cure for hair loss (there wasn't). They also affirmed that so far the only hair loss cure was genetics; you must be born in a family that is not bald.

I looked at my dad and paternal grandma. Father NW7. Grandma FPHL. I knew I was fucked.

Next year (or two years later) the barber's assistant would complain I was shedding too much hair.

Fast forward twenty years, two hair transplants and now the crazy attempt to keep the "new" hair in its place.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

No, but if a 9/10 girl a generation younger than you is going out of her way to get a date with you (and actually, I'd consider it "desperate", certainly if I bothered a girls f*****g grandmother to get a number I'd feel desperate) then you should find it easy to be in control of a relationship with a 7/10 girl your own age, even maybe more attractive than that.

I'm confident in my looks and you won't often find me complaining much about women on here because that'd be almost a slap in the face to those who find true struggles, I have friends who can get more attention than I, and it's hard to imagine anyone getting a 9/10 chick so wet for them in broad daylight. The only time I've been so lucky was when the girl was stupendously drunk, there was some weird agenda, or there was something significantly wrong with her mentally.

Other than that pretty much even Chad's have to put work in to get anywhere.

I agree with Roberto you do seem like a troll after being back only 1 day, I saw you back and legit thought "good" and read some posts and then thought "did someone hack his account?"

But nobody hacked your account, I'm sure it is you, it's just that sh*t ain't adding up.

Anyway, now that a super hot girl has interest you're revealing that your personality will screw you over anyway because you're so shy, but I thought baldness was the problem? And then it's revealed that you've been a sly bald since 20 anyway, so although the little dots of a hairline can indeed make a difference, baldness has hardly impacted you at all.

Sure maybe you could land a Boeing on your forehead, but so could Freddie Ljungberg. You don't have to follow the facial thirds rule to a tee, that's a general application that makes sense for MOST people, you are not one of them, so nobody gives a sh*t about a big forehead if the bottom half significantly makes up for it.

Good luck with this girl not having severe mental problems (or maybe that would suit?).

I think we should welcome him back - the forums been a bit quiet over the last two weeks and needs all the posters it can get. Plus its nice to get different posters with different opinions.

 

[blackg]

No, but if a 9/10 girl a generation younger than you is going out of her way to get a date with you (and actually, I'd consider it "desperate", certainly if I bothered a girls f*****g grandmother to get a number I'd feel desperate) then you should find it easy to be in control of a relationship with a 7/10 girl your own age, even maybe more attractive than that.

I'm confident in my looks and you won't often find me complaining much about women on here because that'd be almost a slap in the face to those who find true struggles, I have friends who can get more attention than I, and it's hard to imagine anyone getting a 9/10 chick so wet for them in broad daylight. The only time I've been so lucky was when the girl was stupendously drunk, there was some weird agenda, or there was something significantly wrong with her mentally.

Other than that pretty much even Chad's have to put work in to get anywhere.

I agree with Roberto you do seem like a troll after being back only 1 day, I saw you back and legit thought "good" and read some posts and then thought "did someone hack his account?"

But nobody hacked your account, I'm sure it is you, it's just that sh*t ain't adding up.

Anyway, now that a super hot girl has interest you're revealing that your personality will screw you over anyway because you're so shy, but I thought baldness was the problem? And then it's revealed that you've been a sly bald since 20 anyway, so although the little dots of a hairline can indeed make a difference, baldness has hardly impacted you at all.

Sure maybe you could land a Boeing on your forehead, but so could Freddie Ljungberg. You don't have to follow the facial thirds rule to a tee, that's a general application that makes sense for MOST people, you are not one of them, so nobody gives a sh*t about a big forehead if the bottom half significantly makes up for it.

Good luck with this girl not having severe mental problems (or maybe that would suit?).

You're going in a bit hard, h.l.
I don't think it's justified.
Now, you say a massive upper third is negligible in the way it impacts a good looking "half," facially.

I've seen (once) good looking guys completely decimated by an endless forehead.
And I maintain if Baldhurts' hair line continues receding then he is in trouble.

Your attack on him sounded like a very transparent attack of envy.

 

[EvilLocks]

A single hair? Seriously?

Wow.

Well, it was more like 3, but still
I was checking for miniaturization in the first place because I had read that Telogen Effluvium (which I had) can turn into Androgenetic Alopecia in some individuals. One day I checked my hair for miniaturization and sure enough, I found a few disgusting, frail and weak hairs that I could easily pull out. After all I had read about hair loss and Androgenetic Alopecia I already knew I was going to go bald, but funnily enough it took my doctors and dermatologist much, much longer to diagnose me.

 

[Rudiger]

I think we should welcome him back - the forums been a bit quiet over the last two weeks and needs all the posters it can get. Plus its nice to get different posters with different opinions.

Oh I still welcome him back, and value him as a poster for the most part, all I said was that he seemed like a troll because he seems a bit off from his usual self.

It's important as well to push people a little to clarify themselves, it can be productive and has pushed myself to take better shape in the opinions I'm getting across. If anything I did say that I reacted positively to see him back, even if my first impression of his posts from one day weren't great.

You're going in a bit hard, h.l.
I don't think it's justified.
Now, you say a massive upper third is negligible in the way it impacts a good looking "half," facially.

I've seen (once) good looking guys completely decimated by an endless forehead.
And I maintain if Baldhurts' hair line continues receding then he is in trouble.

Your attack on him sounded like a very transparent attack of envy.

Attack? Going in a bit hard? I think you're being overly sensitive.

On top of that I just wrote that for most people an endless forehead is awful, and I include good looking guys in that as well, but every now and then a guy comes along who sometimes gets away with it (and of course is usually also good looking, but not always). And your response to this is that you once seen a good looking guy who was ruined by baldness? No sh*t man.

It's apparently "very transparent" my only reasoning was based on envy, well if it was that obvious you could at least explain why. If it was just a rage filled bitter rant then it wouldn't have made any sense, but I felt I brought up some points there (eg is his shyness the "problem" in his love life, if you could even say there is a problem, or his baldness?).

You're being overly presumptuous in how I feel, you aren't a mind-reader. I admitted in bucky's thread that my anger over things was somewhat related to his hair being better and how I felt he's un-appreciative, so I'm always open and honest, but just like in that thread I don't let such emotions over-ride the actual points I'm making. If I was to also be overly sensitive I could say it's practically an insult to dismiss what I wrote based on nothing you even tried to explain. I don't feel a reason to be embroiled by envy of this guy or anyone, I'm content with what I've got aesthetically and am aware I could be in much worse places, I've also never felt consistently envious of Chad friends who are capable of going through women for fun.

As for him missing the little dots on his head he's had since he was 20 meaning he's "in big trouble" (girls probably can't even see the hairline that he currently has unless he f*****g bows his head down at a ridiculous angle), then the same advice I and many others have given:

Get an SMP.

 

[Baldingat188]

For me it was at age 16, looked the back of my head and was like wtf

Although I did sort of put it off for a year because I didn't think it could even start that young . Ever since age 17 there hasn't been an hour where I don't think about it

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Oh I still welcome him back, and value him as a poster for the most part, all I said was that he seemed like a troll because he seems a bit off from his usual self.

It's important as well to push people a little to clarify themselves, it can be productive and has pushed myself to take better shape in the opinions I'm getting across. If anything I did say that I reacted positively to see him back, even if my first impression of his posts from one day weren't great.



Attack? Going in a bit hard? I think you're being overly sensitive.

On top of that I just wrote that for most people an endless forehead is awful, and I include good looking guys in that as well, but every now and then a guy comes along who sometimes gets away with it (and of course is usually also good looking, but not always). And your response to this is that you once seen a good looking guy who was ruined by baldness? No sh*t man.

It's apparently "very transparent" my only reasoning was based on envy, well if it was that obvious you could at least explain why. If it was just a rage filled bitter rant then it wouldn't have made any sense, but I felt I brought up some points there (eg is his shyness the "problem" in his love life, if you could even say there is a problem, or his baldness?).

You're being overly presumptuous in how I feel, you aren't a mind-reader. I admitted in bucky's thread that my anger over things was somewhat related to his hair being better and how I felt he's un-appreciative, so I'm always open and honest, but just like in that thread I don't let such emotions over-ride the actual points I'm making. If I was to also be overly sensitive I could say it's practically an insult to dismiss what I wrote based on nothing you even tried to explain. I don't feel a reason to be embroiled by envy of this guy or anyone, I'm content with what I've got aesthetically and am aware I could be in much worse places, I've also never felt consistently envious of Chad friends who are capable of going through women for fun.

As for him missing the little dots on his head he's had since he was 20 meaning he's "in big trouble" (girls probably can't even see the hairline that he currently has unless he f*****g bows his head down at a ridiculous angle), then the same advice I and many others have given:

Get an SMP.

Get SMP?

That's a very short term solution and you are stuck with it for a lifetime.

 

[blackg]

..And your response to this is that you once seen a good looking guy who was ruined by baldness? No sh*t man.

No, I used the plural.
Also, the whole "good luck with this girl not having severe mental problems" with regard to Baldhurts and his supposed 9/10 date is where I think you went all bitter on his *** because of envy.

Then you eluded to a girl like this maybe suiting Balhurts' preference.

I don't care how you slice it, h.l., that sounded like bitterness brought on by envy.

 

[Rudiger]

No, I used the plural.
Also, the whole "good luck with this girl not having severe mental problems" with regard to Baldhurts and his supposed 9/10 date is wear I think you went all bitter on his *** because of envy.

Then you eluded to a girl like this maybe suiting Balhurts' preference.

I don't care how you slice it, h.l., that sounded like bitterness brought on by envy.

Slice it like this: I made reference earlier in the post to how the only super hot girls that could be this desperate for any guy (even Chad's) could possibly have a mental illness, it's nothing personal to do with BH just that it's incredibly rare for a 9/10 to go out of her way to land a guy. I didn't say she could be mental because she likes him, but any stupidly hot girl who goes that much out of their way, could be a bunny boiler, plain odd, etc.

So I wasn't even being facetious, I genuinely meant it!

There is good reason to be suspicious of this, first things you'd wonder "is this actually her? Is she stabbing some friend in the back? What's going on?" and eventually "is she a bit y'know... nuts?" and yes the latter is not an uncommon conclusion to jump to. In fact it's healthy to be a bit suspicious of ANY girl who goes out of her way to bag a guy she's never met, never mind a ridiculously hot one who's much younger, a model, etc.

If you just remembered the reference to my own personal experiences (and others) that I made earlier in the post, you wouldn't have taken the last sentence away from that context, so that's not on me fella.

Your reasoning doesn't even make any sense, in the same post that I say BH is a very good looking guy, I'm then also saying a girl would have to be basically mental to like him? Him being, a handsome guy even despite hair loss?

What the f***. Like surely you'd have to wonder what that was all about.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

It's rare for women to go out if their way to land a guy, but baldhurts is exceptionally good looking.

 

[blackg]

Slice it like this: I made reference earlier in the post to how the only super hot girls that could be this desperate for any guy (even Chad's) could possibly have a mental illness, it's nothing personal to do with BH just that it's incredibly rare for a 9/10 to go out of her way to land a guy. I didn't say she could be mental because she likes him, but any stupidly hot girl who goes that much out of their way, could be a bunny boiler, plain odd, etc.

So I wasn't even being facetious, I genuinely meant it!

There is good reason to be suspicious of this, first things you'd wonder "is this actually her? Is she stabbing some friend in the back? What's going on?" and eventually "is she a bit y'know... nuts?" and yes the latter is not an uncommon conclusion to jump to. In fact it's healthy to be a bit suspicious of ANY girl who goes out of her way to bag a guy she's never met, never mind a ridiculously hot one who's much younger, a model, etc.

If you just remembered the reference to my own personal experiences (and others) that I made earlier in the post, you wouldn't have taken the last sentence away from that context, so that's not on me fella.

Your reasoning doesn't even make any sense, in the same post that I say BH is a very good looking guy, I'm then also saying a girl would have to be basically mental to like him? Him being, a handsome guy even despite hair loss?

What the f***. Like surely you'd have to wonder what that was all about.

No, you were implying that a perhaps mentality ill girl would suit Baldhurts as he is well, you know... a bit mentally ill himself.
That was the snide inference.

 

[Rudiger]

It's rare for women to go out if their way to land a guy, but baldhurts is exceptionally good looking.

Yeah definitely, but even then there's at least some cause for concern. I'm not saying she's definitely a freak, but it's possible, there's also the possibility that she's a completely normal girl, and is aware of her hotness, and that if BH is her type, she knows he's not gonna say no. That right there is golden.

If an average guy was to get a 9/10 girl, much younger, model etc. then I'd say with some certainty that something odd is going on. That propels the chances of that happening from maybe 1 in a hundred type odds, to 1 in thousands, that a super hot chick could find value in an average guy being her type.

 

[Rudiger]

No, you were implying that a perhaps mentality I'll girl would suit Baldhurts as he is well, you know... a bit mentally ill himself.
That was the snide inference.

Ah, well he's eluded to this himself many times, I still don't see how that's envious of his result. If anything he's been talking about how sh*t he's apparently doing with women lately, I'd be hopeful this did actually work out, maybe it'd straighten up his mind and doubts like it seems to have for Fred.

A "snide" reference to a guy who admits issues of anxiety and shyness, I don't think he's admitted BDD but practically everyone else has brought that up. It wasn't meant to be snide, how you make the connection to envy is beyond me.

 

[blackg]

Ah, well he's eluded to this himself many times, I still don't see how that's envious of his result. If anything he's been talking about how sh*t he's apparently doing with women lately, I'd be hopeful this did actually work out, maybe it'd straighten up his mind and doubts like it seems to have for Fred.

A "snide" reference to a guy who admits issues of anxiety and shyness, I don't think he's admitted BDD but practically everyone else has brought that up. It wasn't meant to be snide, how you make the connection to envy is beyond me.

Just admit it and move on.

 

[Rudiger]

Just admit it and move on.

Hey if you think I was making a snide reference then fine I can see that, if you think it was out of envy or bitterness then you have to admit that this is a big leap in tedious logic (and apparently as it was so "transparent"). The 2 things are not very well related, and you haven't attempted to explain why, considering it's so obvious.

Admit it, you made an assumption, gave it some gusto by insisting it's obvious, and there's nothing at all to back it up.

If I made an insult towards him it was more out of frustration from reading some of this, because to be honest it's all over the place. Like hating his baldness as it apparently screwed up his hopes of finding a woman, and then it turns out that actually no, he's just sh*t at talking to them.

 

[blackg]

Hey if you think I was making a snide reference then fine I can see that, if you think it was out of envy or bitterness then you have to admit that this is a big leap in tedious logic (and apparently as it was so "transparent"). The 2 things are not very well related, and you haven't attempted to explain why, considering it's so obvious.

Admit it, you made an assumption, gave it some gusto by insisting it's obvious, and there's nothing at all to back it up.

If I made an insult towards him it was more out of frustration from reading some of this, because to be honest it's all over the place. Like hating his baldness as it apparently screwed up his hopes of finding a woman, and then it turns out that actually no, he's just sh*t at talking to them.

Yes, of course I made an assumption.
We all make assumptions from reading other people's opinions on here.

And the assumption from the text of yours that I quoted was that you were going hard at Baldhurts.
I think the fact that an alleged 9/10 girl went so far out of her way to contact him. has triggered you somewhat.
I think you even said it sounded "desperate."
No. These things happen quite often, even when the subjects are at the top of the looks heirarchy.

The fact that shorty after making these comments you then had to reassure us how comfortable you were with your own appearance.
Why?

And then the whole mentally ill thing was enough for me.
It came across as as very envious and bitter.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

He may have exaggerated her beauty as well - she could be a 7 or an 8 but to him she was a 9.

I remember telling everyone I was sleeping with an a 8 and they called bullshit. Turns out she was probably a 7 when you took the clothes and makeup off.

 

[Rudiger]

The fact that shorty after making these comments you then had to reassure us how comfortable you were with your own appearance.
Why?

Well why not? You didn't finish what this point actually implies. I was simply saying how I've had experience here, so my anecdotes aren't coming from nowhere, and you have to be wary. It doesn't mean every woman who takes an interest in a guy has to be nuts but, the possibility is there. You think this is normal but here's an assumption for you: I bet you don't have the faintest clue. I bet you haven't had this experience or have had friends who had, and you're just blindly calling it not desperate. This assumption is based on the fact it's so far off from reality.

Like I said it does appear desperate, in the same way if I or any other guy was to ask a girl's grandmother for a number, people's reactions would be, "really dude?". But I guess because this is a cute girl it's just sweet or something?

Please don't go down this road of "ALL assumptions are valid!" because everyone makes assumptions, just because we all make assumptions doesn't mean they can be completely random and unfounded.

Instead you backing it up is this crap like "You reassure us of your own confidence- why?" as if that actually proves anything!

Here's another example of basing an assumption, but at least based on something; you want guys to be ugly.

Based on jumping at the chance to "correct" every post that said bucky's hair is normal, and I mean several, repetitive times, and now a few times (and counting) that you need to "correct" us on how bad BH's hair line is and his future is ominous, as well as hating stories of guys who pull women, I also get the impression you don't like when I write that I myself am good looking or do well with women (which is when you decided I'm unbalanced) and now you're implying I'm "reassuring" others or trying to prove myself, maybe this envy you think I feel is projecting?

It may be an assumption of mine right here, but at least it's backed up by more than just rhetoric meaningless allusions.

And also, it's just theorising for kicks, to show you an example, I wouldn't be arrogant enough to say it's "transparent" as if your actions are blindingly obvious, this is just the impression I get that could be wrong. You simply wrote that my intentions are obvious to give your baseless "assumptions" some merit.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Yeah definitely, but even then there's at least some cause for concern. I'm not saying she's definitely a freak, but it's possible, there's also the possibility that she's a completely normal girl, and is aware of her hotness, and that if BH is her type, she knows he's not gonna say no. That right there is golden.

If an average guy was to get a 9/10 girl, much younger, model etc. then I'd say with some certainty that something odd is going on. That propels the chances of that happening from maybe 1 in a hundred type odds, to 1 in thousands, that a super hot chick could find value in an average guy being her type.

Average guys don't get 9/10 girls, I agree.

Baldhurts isn't average.