Don't Be Delusional, There Won't Be Anything Better For The Next 30 Years. Deal With It.

[nameless]

While calling other people dumb.....






Really? Don't call other people dumb. You are of average intelligence. You should know that by now.

Even smart people can transpose words.

And besides, since Shiseido is using the same treatment as Replicel that means that whatever is said of Replicel's results can also be said of Shiseido's treatment (so far).

 

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And besides, since Shiseido is using the same treatment as Replicel that means that whatever is said of Replicel's results can also be said of Shiseido's treatment so far.

Now that having been said, you have to keep in mind that unlike Replicel, Shiseido is using repeat follow-up injections so there is also a slim chance that Shiseido might get better results. Anytime you change a protocol you can get a different result from the previous result.

Seriously? You just said this. Scroll up. You consistently contradict yourself in short time intervals. Mark of a true genius.

 

[nameless]

Feelbadman.jpg is on ignore and the thread looks so much better for it.

 

[Michel F. II]

You're making a dumb point. Even smart people can transpose words.

And besides, since Shiseido is using the same treatment as Replicel that means that whatever is said of Replicel's results can also be said of Shiseido's treatment so far.

Nameless, please, restrain yourself from characterizing other people.
C'mon, guys, why are we always turning discussions into c*** fights?


PS. I'm not saying your arguments, nameless, are invalid.

 

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C'mon, guys, why are we always turning discussions into c*** fights?

It's because Nameless tries to personify superior intelligence with a condescending tone to everyone else. Funny, when his contradictions are pointed out he has nothing of worth to say.

 

[nameless]

Nameless, please, restrain yourself from characterizing other people.
C'mon, guys, why are we always turning discussions into c*** fights?


PS. I'm not saying your arguments, nameless, are invalid.

That Guy characterized people FIRST.

 

[Michel F. II]

That Guy characterized me FIRST. I responded in kind.

So, we are children. That's what you r saying?

 

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That Guy characterized me FIRST. I responded in kind.

Blame everything on That Guy. Sounds about right. He had nothing to do with it. I responded to you calling people dumb for believing RCH-01 is a viable treatment and then proceeded to point out your hypocrisies in the thread.

 

[nameless]

So, we are children. That's what you r saying?

No. I'm saying That Guy characterized people first. Here is what he said:

"There are a lot of crazy people here who flat out do not want anything better to come along."

 

[Michel F. II]

It's because Nameless tries to personify superior intelligence with a condescending tone to everyone else. Funny, when his contradictions are pointed out he has nothing of worth to say.

It's not just Nameless. It seems like everybody here unleashes their worst version of themselves. And I'm not excluding myself. I've been horrible, too, at times.
We can do better, guys.
I have faith in us.

 

[Michel F. II]

No. I'm saying That Guy characterized people first. Here is what he said:

"There are a lot of crazy people here who flat out do not want anything better to come along."

So what?
Lowering your level is the answer?
We've talked about it thoroughly, nameless.
I think you do get what I'm trying to say.

 

[nameless]

Seriously? You just said this. Scroll up. You consistently contradict yourself in short time intervals. Mark of a true genius.

Right now the only evidence we can apply to Shiseido is the Replicel results since they both involve the same medicine. I understand that Shiseido is using a different protocol so their results may be different from Replicel's results but Shiseido's results aren't in yet. Hence, thus far the best that can be said of Shiseido's treatment is that the medicine used by Shiseido has managed to arrest hair loss in only 19 patients. I understand you want me to say something more positive but I can't. It wouldn't be true.

Back to ignore.

 

[H]

Right now the only evidence we can apply to Shiseido is the Replicel results since they both involve the same medicine. I understand that Shiseido is using a different protocol so their results could be different from Replicel's but results aren't in yet for Shiseido's study. Hence, thus far the best that can be said of Shiseido's treatment is that the medicine used by Shiseido has managed to arrest hair loss in only 19 patients.

Back on ignore.

At least they've released data... You hear as that Cots, Puretech you p***ys!

 

[nameless]

At least they've released data... You hear as that Cots, Puretech you p***ys!

And there is a slim chance that Shiseido's larger study will also establish that the treatment arrests hair loss in 100% of patients. And of course if that happens then I will call it a breakthrough.

Additionally, since Shiseido has altered the protocol there is a chance for good regrowth in all patients. If that happens I'm flying to Asia to get the treatment.

But right now the only evidence we have is that the medicine itself has arrested hair loss in 19 patiets. If and when I can say something better about it I will love doing so.

 

[nameless]

Thank you Nameless. I hope gene editing will come sooner.

Now that gene editing is moving to human studies for treatments other than hair loss I suspect that it will be in human studies to treat hair loss within 3 - 4 years. I think it will be in the regular marketplace to treat hair loss within 6 - 7 years. I think it will be combined with Tsuji's treatment - instead of simply re-injecting the cells back into the recipient areas of your scalp Tsuji will first do something to the cells to negate the androgen receptors in those cells so that the cells will be forever immune to the androgens.

Tsuji's treatment may come to market in 2020 and then go right back into new clinical trials because Tsuji will add gene-editing to the treatment so it will have to go through clinical trials again.

 

[H]

And there is a slim chance that Shiseido's larger study will also establish that the treatment arrests hair loss in 100% of patients. And of course if that happens then I will call it a breakthrough.

Additionally, since Shiseido has altered the protocol there is a chance for good regrowth in all patients. If that happens I'm flying to Asia to get the treatment.

But right now the only evidence we have is that the medicine itself has arrested hair loss in 19 patiets. If and when I can say something better about it I will love doing so.

Who knows even if it does just arrest it I don't think I would call it a breakthrough. Keep in mind when I think of a hair loss treatment I think of getting back what you lost.

 

[H]

Now that gene editing is moving to human studies for treatments other than hair loss I suspect that it will be in human studies to treat hair loss within 3 - 4 years. I think it will be in the regular marketplace to treat hair loss within 6 - 7 years. I think it will be combined with Tsuji's treatment - instead of simply injecting the cells back into the recipient areas of your scalp Tsuji will first do something to the cells to negate the androgen receptors in those cells so that the cells will be forever immune to the androgens.

Tsuji's treatment may come to market in 2020 and then go right back into new clinical trials because Tsuji will add gene-editing to the treatment so it will have to go through clinical trials again.

Actually in my opinion Tsuji doesn't give a sh*t about hair so they probably won't go through the hassle for hair at least. They want to focus on big organs and this whole kyocera deal is just a side quest for him he had to do to get the icon off the mini map.

 

[Michel F. II]

Now that gene editing is moving to human studies for treatments other than hair loss I suspect that it will be in human studies to treat hair loss within 3 - 4 years. I think it will be in the regular marketplace to treat hair loss within 6 - 7 years. I think it will be combined with Tsuji's treatment - instead of simply injecting the cells back into the recipient areas of your scalp Tsuji will first do something to the cells to negate the androgen receptors in those cells so that the cells will be forever immune to the androgens.

Tsuji's treatment may come to market in 2020 and then go right back into new clinical trials because Tsuji will add gene-editing to the treatment so it will have to go through clinical trials again.

That would be great!

 

[Michel F. II]

Actually in my opinion Tsuji doesn't give a sh*t about hair so they probably won't go through the hassle for hair at least. They want to focus on big organs and this whole kyocera deal is just a side quest for him he had to do to get the icon off the mini map.

Yep, but once they've established the whole technology that does grow hair back, because of money pouring in, they are gonna try gene editing, too, in order to secure their dominance in the market for at least ten-twenty years.

 

[nameless]

Actually in my opinion Tsuji doesn't give a sh*t about hair so they probably won't go through the hassle for hair at least. They want to focus on big organs and this whole kyocera deal is just a side quest for him he had to do to get the icon off the mini map.

Even if Tsuji doesn't add gene editing to his treatment then someone else will add gene editing to Tsuji's treatment. Keep in mind that even donor hairs can miniaturize. Team Tsuji says they have a solution for that problem but their solution sounds kind of iffy. Gene editing could completely solve that problem forever by removing the effect of androgen receptors from the cells before culturing them and re-injecting them.

 

[nameless]

Who knows even if it does just arrest it I don't think I would call it a breakthrough. Keep in mind when I think of a hair loss treatment I think of getting back what you lost.

IMO the biggest problem with Replicel's results is the number of patients. If it were 200 patients who got those same results instead of 19 patients I would be excited. Remember they also got varrying amounts of new coverage.

 

[Michel F. II]

IMO the biggest problem with Replicel's results is the number of patients. If it were 200 patients who got those same results instead of 19 patients I would be excited. Remember they also got varrying amounts of new coverage.

I'm hoping next year or, worst case scenario, in 2019 that a paper be released in which Tsuji's team claim they have managed to amplify epithelial stem cells, while preserving inductivity. That would be some painfully good news.
If something like that happens, then, I guess noone will be pessimistic ever again.