Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[losingbattle88]

The ugly truth of hrt for some people. Fat square face with thin flat hair.

 

[Adri23]

How long have u been on hrt???

He is def not on HRT:

Makes me anxious how much weaker I would be.

 

[Adri23]

The ugly truth of hrt for some people. Fat square face with thin flat hair.

Wtf that person jawmogs me even tho I'm on 16.9 BMI and have masseter hypertrophy

 

[monehair]

I never had a high BMI ever, noe on testosterone or estrogen . My BMI has always been like 17.5 or so on Testosterone. Im an ectomorph so I always had low fat and low muscle naturally and my frame is not huge (ribcage circumference is like 76.5-77 cm circumference behind just below the nipples and my wrists are also very small).

Maintaining a low BMI is a natural thing to my body, I just do intermittent fasting due to health benefits.

About beard, I just said that because it can add even more masculinity to the face but it is not even necessary if you maintain a lower end healthy BMI, because that way your bone structure will be exposed and you will not look femenine. Also I've noticed with lower BMI you have less smooth skin(cause subcutaneous fat gives smoothness to the skin) so it removes even more feminization.

Yeah, your small frame contributes greatly to that low BMI. My ribcage circumference is like 93cm or so (measured roughly below nipples). I'd probably look like the machinist at that BMI of 18.

How long have u been on hrt???

Not actively on HRT now, but I've tried out injections for 3 months or so.

The ugly truth of hrt for some people. Fat square face with thin flat hair.

Exactly. Though with trans people I am always wondering how much makeup and feminine hairstyle add to the effect and how their face would look like with a more masculine hairstyle.

This is the issue with HRT and why I think Adri and others here may be an exception or their own perception is vastly different from how others perceive them. Or maybe they just live in a very liberal area where people don't think about it much at all.

Wtf that person jawmogs me even tho I'm on 16.9 BMI and have masseter hypertrophy

"jawmogs" -> That's not something you envy though I guess

 

[monehair]

you just proved our point, estrogen does not feminize anyone post puberty

For the billionth time: estrogen does feminize you, but not enough to present as a woman, only to look weird as a man.

I am just trying to assess how this "weirdness" can be mitigated and what the ratio is between luck and effort.

 

[Adri23]

It doesn't feminize anything. I know from experience that estrogen changes absolutely nothing about your face. It's basically just a testosterone blocker that prevents further masculinization and gives you manboobs. It's an uncontrolled substance and easy to get everywhere because of how useless it is, its just a glorified skincare/hair loss supplement.

Based

 

[Adri23]

"jawmogs" -> That's not something you envy though I guess

I already have a chad jawline because I have ver low body fat% even on face, but that person's jaw is that big that you can see it even with facial fat. Mine gets more rounded when I gain fat but that person can't even hide the jawline

 

[exwhyyou]

The one secret nobody has answered yet is how to keep a reasonably masculine face on HRT and prevent becoming a strong "butch lesbian" or an uncanny man. I cannot imagine your faces would look manly if you have started HRT in early twenties.

manly face is so ugly idc every good looking guy is some degree of feminine

 

[exwhyyou]

im about to go so crazy on my hair again like back when i was first afraid of balding.... huge vitamin stack and hopefully i can maintain perfect diet. i wanna see how far i can take this and just how good my hair can get. been relying mostly on the hrt regimen since i started which is obviously best, but i think theres still some more juice i can squeeze.

 

[exwhyyou]

why not switch to dutasteride

i probably will at some point next year

 

[Almas_NW0]

If you simply castrate yourself, your face will not feminize, although the hair growth will be worse. Estradiol is not just a blocker, it acts on the estradiol receptors and feminizes you. Unfortunately, I do not have photos of my face before estradiol (I have 2.5 months), but after 5 months I saw noticeable changes in my face. The fat tissue on the face is redistributed, the eyes become more open, and your appearance is more harmless and childish. I like androgyny, so I do not mind such changes.

 

[sg2000]

If you simply castrate yourself, your face will not feminize, although the hair growth will be worse. Estradiol is not just a blocker, it acts on the estradiol receptors and feminizes you. Unfortunately, I do not have photos of my face before estradiol (I have 2.5 months), but after 5 months I saw noticeable changes in my face. The fat tissue on the face is redistributed, the eyes become more open, and your appearance is more harmless and childish. I like androgyny, so I do not mind such changes.

how about your thighs?Did you lose fat on it?

 

[sg2000]

do you guys think that if I only use dutasteride e2 and oral minoxidil will be enough to have hair benefits and less body changes?

 

[BRezende]

@Adri23 how is going? Any sign of reduced shedding and regrow?

 

[bsmith]

do you guys think that if I only use dutasteride e2 and oral minoxidil will be enough to have hair benefits and less body changes?

Dustasteride is alright to take if you are female or transgender. In the United States high amounts of the drug is used for
sex change operations. The half life is very long.

 

[sg2000]

Dustasteride is alright to take if you are female or transgender. In the United States high amounts of the drug is used for
sex change operations. The half life is very long.

im not transgender neither gay or have any gender dismrphia.Wow i dint know about it?Doses like 5 mg and up?

 

[sg2000]

1mg finasteride is enough to turn most men into women. thats why we are just taking full transgender hrt, if we have to become women in order to regain hair then we might as well become pretty ones with higher estrogen levels.

bro you are the most retarded troll

 

[exwhyyou]

Dustasteride is alright to take if you are female or transgender. In the United States high amounts of the drug is used for
sex change operations. The half life is very long.

ace frehley should have taken estrogen. he kept his boyish good looks even into the 90s but alcoholism + testosterone is too much for anyone to withhold. i reckon he could have been bloody hott on e2 esp with his early 80s hair

 

[exwhyyou]

paul stanley on the other hand, it was over for even in the first years of kiss. he is absolutely agp however and LOVED displaying his hairy man chest while acting and sounding feminine. i bet you kiss would have gotten nowhere without ace’s pretty look and keen style

 

[Adri23]

@Adri23 how is going? Any sign of reduced shedding and regrow?

Shedding got a bit better, no regrowth whatsoever