Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Ikarus]

What is the best way to take cypro and estradiol valerate? sublingually or oral? from which the result is better?

You would take CPA orally, and estradiol (as hemihydrate) buccally

 

[Yar]

[QUOTE = "RuTom, должность: 1796270, член: 140574"] Я тоже с Россией 5 мг Андрокура это маловато, как я считаю. Я считаю, что лучше начинать с 12,5 мг ЦПА + 2 мг эстрадиола. Антиандрогенов эстрадиол плохо работает
А вообще все зависит от тяжести АГА [/ QUOTE]
I agree. I will start with 2.25 mg and will gradually increase the dosage in the absence of a result.

 

[RuTom]

[QUOTE = "RuTom, должность: 1796270, член: 140574"] Я тоже с Россией 5 мг Андрокура это маловато, как я считаю. Я считаю, что лучше начинать с 12,5 мг ЦПА + 2 мг эстрадиола. Антиандрогенов эстрадиол плохо работает
А вообще все зависит от тяжести АГА [/ QUOTE]
I agree. I will start with 2.25 mg and will gradually increase the dosage in the absence of a result.

What is your regimen now?

 

[Yar]

You would take CPA orally, and estradiol (as hemihydrate) buccally

And under the language cpa? On the trans forums, some write different answers

 

[RuTom]

And under the language cpa? On the trans forums, some write different answers

Вот вся инфа о методах введения.

 

[Marky]

Do you use with only e-gel or combine with Cypro or another anti androgen? I use estrogel 0,75 + topical spironolactone (lotion) one a day in during 2 months and i see only small velious

Cypro 12.5mg x2 a week
dutasteride x 3 a week
E gel 2mg x 3 a week
E pill 1mg bucally x 2 a week
Oral min 10mg x 3 a week
Rogaine foam x 2 a week
Nizoral x 1 a week

I got small hairs on the front of my forelock that are just sitting there, not sure what they are waiting for. I specifically hit that spot with the E gel and still they appear comatose. While the hairs around the temple pink spot seem to be making progress. Maybe they need a hit of progesterone.

 

[Yar]

[QUOTE = "RuTom, post: 1796276, member: 140574"] Какой у вас режим? [/ QUOTE]

What is your regimen now?

I have the drug Klimen. Look for. 1 mg of estradiol valerate + 0.5 mg cipro * 2 times a day

 

[Yar]

[QUOTE = "RuTom, сообщение: 1796281, член: 140574"] Вот вся инфа о параметрах внедрения. [/ QUOTE]

What is your regimen now?

0.5 mg cpa + 1 mg estradiol valerat 2 times a day

 

[bridgeburn]

Does anyone else feel nauseated on spironolactone? I’m desperately wanting to switch anti-androgens at this point because it’s almost unbearable when I go out...

spironolactone seems to really f*** up some people,

 

[bridgeburn]

The preparation is called Klimen. I take everything orally. Can I take it sublingually?Bridge?

It would be better to take it sublingually, or buccally.. Oral estradiol is not as effective for some.

 

[bridgeburn]

I got small hairs on the front of my forelock that are just sitting there, not sure what they are waiting for. I specifically hit that spot with the E gel and still they appear comatose. While the hairs around the temple pink spot seem to be making progress. Maybe they need a hit of progesterone.

I think Estrogen causes the rebirth of the follicles but then we need more to proliferate it from there, such as minoxidil. Try putting some topical on the spot sometimes.

 

[Yar]

It would be better to take it sublingually, or buccally.. Oral estradiol is not as effective for some.

bridge you are our hero! thanks to you! It was you who gave me a jolt in the direction of hrt!

 

[Marky]

I think Estrogen causes the rebirth of the follicles but then we need more to proliferate it from there, such as minoxidil. Try putting some topical on the spot sometimes.

Doing that twice a week already. maybe it's not enough but I think with that and the E gel it would dry out my skin. Maybe it works forward, temples first then moves to forelock?
Crown down to forelock.

 

[Ikarus]

spironolactone seems to really f*** up some people,

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I am feeling similar to how she does; this started happening after I went up to 150MG/day and 200MG/day. I had one day where I felt so nauseous that I couldn’t get out of my bed or even speak without wanting to throw up. Although, I am fine on most days I can’t deal with the nausea (it has definately worsened my motion sickness). It’s nasty especially knowing that these are the common side effects of spironolactone...

I am planing to switch to 25MG/day bicalutamide and 50/100MG/day spironolactone. It’s a case of splitting the burden; a lower dose of bicalutamide hopefully will lessen my chance of raised liver enzymes, and a significantly lower dose of spironolactone will hopefully lead me with no more dizziness, nausea and tiredness. (If people are wondering why spironolactone will still be used, even at low doses, is because a) I will be adding oral minoxidil which can cause water retention, b) to help aid in reducing my T levels so bicalutamide will be effective at a lower dose). I will still be using 0.5MG/day dutasteride and 2MG/day estradiol.

 

[coco_304]

I am searching for drug that work like cpa and do the same job because cpa elevate my liver enzymes and damage my liver according to my last blood check.
Any suggestions??

***i take 25mg of cpa every day.

Tanks.

 

[Ikarus]

I am searching for drug that work like cpa and do the same job because cpa elevate my liver enzymes and damage my liver according to my last blood check.
Any suggestions??

Tanks.

What dose of CPA were you using?

 

[coco_304]

What dose of CPA were you using?

25mg

 

[Ikarus]

25mg

What if you cut the dose to 12.5MG/day? There is also bicalutamide or spironolactone.

 

[Yar]

I am searching for drug that work like cpa and do the same job because cpa elevate my liver enzymes and damage my liver according to my last blood check.
Any suggestions??

***i take 25mg of cpa every day.

Tanks.

reduce dose to 12.5 mg

 

[bridgeburn]

I am feeling similar to how she does; this started happening after I went up to 150MG/day and 200MG/day. I had one day where I felt so nauseous that I couldn’t get out of my bed or even speak without wanting to throw up. Although, I am fine on most days I can’t deal with the nausea (it has definately worsened my motion sickness). It’s nasty especially knowing that these are the common side effects of spironolactone...

spironolactone also messed up @Georgie

(If people are wondering why spironolactone will still be used, even at low doses, is because a) I will be adding oral minoxidil which can cause water retention, b) to help aid in reducing my T levels so bicalutamide will be effective at a lower dose). I will still be using 0.5MG/day dutasteride and 2MG/day estradiol.

spironolactone doesn't lower T much, if even at all.. It doesn't have any direct antigonodotrophin effect, It might slightly lower it (although doesn't happen for everyone) because the blocked receptors lead to an increase in T in the bloodstream which aromatases in the hypothalamas of the brain. On a trans regimen using only spironolactone as an AA, it is the estrogen which causes the reduction in T.

Using spironolactone with Bica is redundant for T surpression.. it could help block extra receptors though, but blocking extra with a weak partial agonist such as spironolactone defeats the advantage a little bit of Bica as a pure antagonist.

However, countering the minoxidil with it is a good reason to use it