Perfect example is the ancient Japanese people. What happened when the Westernized diet was introduced? The incidences of baldness skyrocketed.
do you have a source for this?
Another example. Greece is one of the baldest nations. Same with Czech Republic, UK, Spain, and U.S. The one striking commonality I see in such countries is, you named it: Dairy. Greece is know to thrive on dairy. They have tzatzkik sauce, greek yogurt, greek ice cream, feta cheese, etc. I won't be surprised if they bathed in dairy.
or maybe it's just because they are predominantly white?
in America, I rarely see balding Mexicans. (unless they are really old)
Sure there are extreme cases of an obese man having a full head of hair and a vegan man having no hair.
too much fiber speeds estrogen metabolism
What I am saying is diet and stress can cause Androgenetic Alopecia and other forms of hair loss.
it can possibly accelerate it, but if you have those genes it will still happen regardless.
It did plain and simple for me. Whey destroyed my life and hair. I am an ideal example of Androgenetic Alopecia kicking in at a young age because of diet-manipulation.
I took drugs and got results without changing my diet..
They must be doing something right in their lifestyle. Eating smaller portions, lots and lots of iodine, lots and lots of soy.... All these tiny changes accumulate over time and as result, because their androgens are low, they pass these good qualities to their offspring.
So their offspring now has almost Androgenetic Alopecia-proof genes thanks to their parents and grand parents and great grand parents.
Ok, sticking to a certain diet for thousands of years can certainly bring about a change in genetics which may be more hair favorable... But what about with one individual in a single lifetime??? we already have fucked up genes from our ancestors diets and they will remain fucked up until we avoid red meat and eat soy for 10,000 years.
Princessrambo (a legend in this forum) was a prime example of someone who went from a Norwood 7 to a Norwood 2 I believe via supplements and minoxidil. But all of us know minoxidil alone cannot restore a Norwood hairline in about 8-12 months.
Meanstick on the bodybuilding forum was also a prime example of reversing his Norwood 2 hairline via supplementation and NO drugs.
never heard of these cases, and I can't help but suspect scam.. when i took supplements, I also believed I was improving and took pictures and thought i saw a few more hairs.. none of it lasts without hormones. Initial results from anything that doesn't change hormones and destroy androgens will fade.. there's plenty of cases where people get excited and show off initial results then never post again and they likely lose ground again.
I also have some case studies from a well known doctor in India who's currently helping his patients reverse Androgenetic Alopecia via supplementation and a natural peptide cream.
you lost me at India.
(no offense but I have to be honest)
You are intelligent and the most logical person I know of. You kinda of remind me of myself.
Plus you have hands-on favorable experience with your current regimen.
awww, I'm flattered
@bridgeburn and to all the experts on this forum. I wish there was a way for us to converse via VOIP.
I'm extremely shy
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Ok, I'll tell some stuff I honestly think about diet.. Eating less I believe is good. Because caloric restriction (without malnutrition) is proven in multiple species to extend lifespan and it also reduces sex hormone production and increases SHBG (which prefers to bind to DHT over T and T over E) this is essentially a natural anti-androgen since it would make a man less androgenic compared to before.. Also, its important to restrict calories enough to enter this metabolic state. (certain biomarkers can be watched out for, ie. slowing down of metabolism and reduced body temperature) and this also doesn't work without restricting protein in particular.
- Soy contains phytoestrogens but are much much weaker compared to human estrogen and if they made any significant difference I imagine women in Japan would be missing their periods. They could possibly make a difference if you consume a Massive ton of soy such as in this case where this man increased his estradiol levels by drinking 3 quarts of soymilk per day:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18558591
also, soy MIGHT increase the production of Equol, which binds to DHT and adeactivates its bio-availability. The problem however is that we must have the right type of gut bacteria to produce Equol and not everybody does.. (If I'm remembering correctly, a study on Asians showed 30% of them has the right bacteria) so, who knows if eating soy is doing much good ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and before HRT, i took phytoestrogen supplements, didn't really feel anything
- from studies real licorice (not the red stuff) has been shown to reduce testosterone and white peony ( a Chinese herb) was shown to increase aromatase
- There was also a Turkish study which showed spearmint tea consumption reduced hirsutism in women
Other than that, i don't have much faith in anything diet related.