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Norwoody said:
Is it safe/effective to go on bica+E for short periods then back out and still maintain after? Or does it just shed off? How long was Noah on HRT?
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I might take a stab at reading this whole thread again up to last October when I started posting because there were plenty of misses if I recall correctly and several kept changing meds as soon as they shed. Folks should read this:


It's a catch-22. Bridgeburn and I started off bald more or less at one point but I did indeed have a massive shed on spironolactone and it might be unavoidable. Guys should either just shave their heads if they see massive shedding or think about a hair system. Some folks don't even go out much so everyone is different.

The owner of the site essentially says in the article if you stop treatment due to a shed, not only do you have to regrow the shed hair but you are back to ground zero. There is no free lunch in any of this as we are attempting to defy nature.
 
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Norwoody said:
Holy crap so it is a life sentence.
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I am not certain about this. People can go back to November maybe and look at Noah's hair. He was surrendering the corners some but maintaining mostly after a year only on Duta. In the longer term it might be difficult to maintain. However, if Rob is right about calcification and fibrous material, then one might be "healed" via HRT and then maintain with DR and male meds. Anagen is all but certain to be only about one third as long as a female anagen phase though.
 
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Norwoody said:
Holy crap so it is a life sentence.
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Oh sorry, I was missreading your post. If you stop bica but used it with E, then its ok. Your T production will be lessen by the E to normal ranges again, and when you stop both, your follicles wont get raped by high androgens (induced by Bica).

Anyway. Someone already saw milkers on bica?? Lol

I'm quite afraid... haha
 
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Question by a reader.

If anyone has further thoughts about this question by someone, please feel free to add more advice:

Question by Reader:

Biestro makes my scalp really itchy. Does this mean anything? I currently have (I am female) full coverage but I also need a masking agent to look my best. I can't bear to wear a wig at work as it would be too jarring.


 
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Norwoody said:
Well like Selb said, probably nothing a cis guy wants to touch unless he is on the verge of suicide lol
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Certainly not if someone hasn't back up sperm or finished with having a female. However, estrogen can be amazing for depression and OCD, especially sexual OCD.
 
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Pls_NW-1 said:
I NEED BICA
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There's no magic bullet. Probably very few report back for whom it did not work, just like with the estriol people who usually use stacks of 20 meds, lol. Bica isn't known to be better for hair than spironolactone or CPA. Any of those three will have positive hair effects but maybe the new guys should read this entire thread. Most of it is about @bridgeburn but there used to be a lot of whining on here and there were more people, female and male reporting back then. Still, very few pictures do I recall except by Bridge and Noah.
 
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JaneyElizabeth said:
There's no magic bullet. Probably very few report back for whom it did not work, just like with the estriol people who usually use stacks of 20 meds, lol. Bica isn't known to be better for hair than spironolactone or CPA. Any of those three will have positive hair effects but maybe the new guys should read this entire thread. Most of it is about @bridgeburn but there used to be a lot of whining on here and there were more people, female and male reporting back then. Still, very few pictures do I recall except by Bridge and Noah.
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I have been reading the thread since october.
 
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I just want to stop this disease and go on with life. In hope that there will be a cure and I can drop everything.
 
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Pls_NW-1 said:
I just want to stop this disease and go on with life. In hope that there will be a cure and I can drop everything.
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It's not a disease. Elisha the prophet in the Old Testament was completely bald and he called down she-bears to kill youths who teased him about his bald head. Apparently Elisha's miracles were limited to things besides the growth of hair.

Apes and monkeys suffer from things akin to baldness but with vellus hair that is more prominent. Baldness for whites is completely natural and normal and it does in fact, probably indicate virility to a certain extent. It could be that baldness is for females to be able to find the most manly guys easily. Everything is reversed now because men's physical strength and even fertility with IVF don't matter anymore. Few of us serve in the military where bald haircuts were often required.

Loggers, miners, mill workers, quarry men, farmers all required great strength and most women probably just accepted baldness in males as the same thing as beards as a secondary sexual trait. That's why bodybuilding can impress some females more than hair as can frankly package size. St. Paul states that hair was given to women, not men. Now I don't believe what he says about pretty much anything but the notion was strong even in Roman times. Several Roman emperors and Caesar himself were bald.

The real issue is that baldness is also strongly correlated with age as the kids said to Elisha remarks that made fun of him being old and bald. It's a ridiculous over-reaction by Elisa that fundamentalists try to defend just like the murder of children in Jericho. Of course, I worship Goddess. Here's the text:

www.biblegateway.com

2 Kings 2:23-24 NIV;KJV - Elisha Is Jeered - From there Elisha - Bible Gateway

Elisha Is Jeered - From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out
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I look forward to the day where I no longer have the impulse to be conscious of my hair nearly every waking moment. It would be nice to eventually be able to afford a transplant, but until that day comes at least it's giving me a chance to figure out what I can maintain on. It would also be nice to perhaps get the regrowth I desire in the process so that I don't have to even worry about a transplant; but I accept that I have limited control over these things. The positive thing is that I know I'm doing all that I can right now to work on the problem, so that does bring some peace of mind.
 
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Norwoody said:
Anyone know how concentrated a typical dose of estrogel is?
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Estrogel is a .06% concentration of E2
Non-pharma otc estradiol creams are usually made at .01% concentration although there are higher concentration otc creams available if you hunt around a bit.
 
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Ticken said:
Estrogel is a .06% concentration of E2
Non-pharma otc estradiol creams are usually made at .01% concentration although there are higher concentration otc creams available if you hunt around a bit.
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So what's the average dose with that then? 2mg? 6mg?
 
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Ticken said:
Estrogel is a .06% concentration of E2
Non-pharma otc estradiol creams are usually made at .01% concentration although there are higher concentration otc creams available if you hunt around a bit.
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There's a small operation in Brazil that will provide gel versions of estrogel at various strengths for about half the price. She takes money orders and paypal. It's on my list of providers.
 
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Norwoody said:
Going with about 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. Gonna try this for the next few months. Honestly, my concern isn't even so much sides because like I said (and I know deathdiss has too) that even twice a day for that month I was completely fine. My reason for caution is to ensure that I don't suppress the HPA axis and affect my own endogenous production. With test/anabolics you aren't supposed to stay on more than 6-8 weeks and it takes about a month for most of those to clear the system and for HPA axis to return to normal endogenous production (sometimes ends up even higher if done conservatively). Some steroid cycles are done 3 weeks on 3 weeks off for 2-3 cycles before ceasing the rest of the year. I'm going to go a month on and off and see what happens by the summer.
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Thank you very much @Norwoody for your detailed response.
 
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