Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Makes sense, thanks. So do they work exponentially better at 50mg/2mg compared to if you took half of that? I'd be surprised if there would be no benefit to 25/1 compared to not taking them at all.

Thoughts on topical E?

Topical E is the muthafuckin shiznit, it's dialing my hair back at record pace from the brink of terminal hairloss to abundant regrowth.

Topical E along with using a mild anti androgenic supplement (red reishi) alone is basically grabbing my hairloss by the dick and shoving it up its own ***. I'm very impressed so far.

I still don't have any "gyno", yes I'm not really lean, but I'm also not fat, nor in any threat of being so, but out of shape is another matter which I need to make contingencies for so that I can begin working out once more.

 

[Norwoody]

Gotcha. Yeah I don't know if I'll ever touch bica because of its weird mechanism.

Some people are getting results on estrogel. Do you know how concentrated that is? I'm cycling bi-estro and haven't had sides even on 2 pumps a day. Cycling it just to be cautious and avoid any kind of suppression.

I was thinking last night that if we could somehow get a synthetic version of estriol to have as high of a binding affinity as estradiol, that would probably be ideal for us cis-males. Basically that's what anabolic steroids are, just modified test.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Topical E is the muthafuckin shiznit, it's dialing my hair back at record pace from the brink of terminal hairloss to abundant regrowth.

I still don't have any "gyno", yes I'm not really lean, but I'm also not fat, nor in any threat of being so, but out of shape is another matter which I need to make contingencies for so that I can begin working out once more.

What do you think of Bica, Dogo?

 

[GRme11]

Gotcha. Yeah I don't know if I'll ever touch bica because of its weird mechanism.

Some people are getting results on estrogel. Do you know how concentrated that is? I'm cycling bi-estro and haven't had sides even on 2 pumps a day. Cycling it just to be cautious and avoid any kind of suppression.

I was thinking last night that if we could somehow get a synthetic version of estriol to have as high of a binding affinity as estradiol, that would probably be ideal for us cis-males. Basically that's what anabolic steroids are, just modified test

@Norwoody If you don't mind, may I ask how do you cycle Bi-Estro? Like 3 weeks on then 1 week stop and again? Thank you.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Gotcha. Yeah I don't know if I'll ever touch bica because of its weird mechanism.

Some people are getting results on estrogel. Do you know how concentrated that is? I'm cycling bi-estro and haven't had sides even on 2 pumps a day. Cycling it just to be cautious and avoid any kind of suppression.

I was thinking last night that if we could somehow get a synthetic version of estriol to have as high of a binding affinity as estradiol, that would probably be ideal for us cis-males. Basically that's what anabolic steroids are, just modified test.

I'm holding back on Bica and Diane35, I will be getting some Diane35 but I'm going to see how far I can take it with the topical E until my minoxidil gets here. I'm also going to be low-dosing metformin to get my igf-1 and insulin levels under control because it seems like no matter what I do they want to go up. If I feel like I've still hit a plateau, maybe, but I'm also seriously considering low dosing a topical AI medication such as finasteride or dutasteride.

finasteride is a strange drug as you really don't get much more out of using more, thus a lowered concentration directly applied to the scalp might be enough to effectively androgen-proof me from any contingencies that might arise, such as intense workouts, etc.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Another thing I'm using right now is differin 0.1% and I must say I think it's actually helping my hair as well as my skin.

 

[Almas]

Judging by the very fast results of DHTcel, with 100mg Bica monotherapy you are guaranteed to grow your hair back in no time. Apparently, a complete blockade of androgen receptors + an increase in E do their job and completely restore you, if you do not have too much damaged follicles
It might make sense to restore hair with high doses of Bica or estrogen and then maintain 50mg of Bica. I'll do this if 50mg doesn't work on its own

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Judging by the very fast results of DHTcel, with 100mg Bica monotherapy you are guaranteed to grow your hair back in no time. Apparently, a complete blockade of androgen receptors + an increase in E do their job and completely restore you, if you do not have too much damaged follicles
It might make sense to restore hair with high doses of Bica or estrogen and then maintain 50mg of Bica. I'll do this if 50mg doesn't work on its own

DHTcel used 150mg.

 

[Almas]

DHTcel used 150mg.

Yes, but because there are no 100mg tablets. Bicalutamide is sold at 50mg and 150mg, it is more economical to use 150 than to drink two 50mg tablets

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Anyone knows where i can obtain min pills?

Anywhere with a prescription I think. I have a comprehensive list of possible vendors but Amazon4Health only has topical which one can find anywhere. But five drops a day of topical on the back of the tongue is more or less free for folks already able to get topical (non-foam) minoxidil. It's such a tiny amount that you can't believe how powerful it is. The pills must be mostly filler. Ingredients in topical Min= food preservative, ethanol, active ingredient.

If this were dangerous many of the guys on Tressless would already be dead.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Anywhere with a prescription I think. I have a comprehensive list of possible vendors but Amazon4Health only has topical which one can find anywhere. But five drops a day of topical on the back of the tongue is more or less free for folks already able to get topical (non-foam) minoxidil. It's such a tiny amount that you can't believe how powerful it is. The pills must be mostly filler. Ingredients in topical Min= food preservative, ethanol, active ingredient.

If this were dangerous many of the guys on Tressless would already be dead.

Yeah, I think drinking Minoxidil is pretty safe. Lol

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Yeah, I think drinking Minoxidil is pretty safe. Lol

I try to emphasize how little it is and call it drizzling on the back of the tongue, lest somebody drink a whole bottle thinking, "This will grow my hair back by my big date Saturday night!"

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

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[JaneyElizabeth]

@JaneyElizabeth might know some sources

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[JaneyElizabeth]

What brand of minoxidil would you recommend for drinking?

I think Kirkland works. Mine is generic made in Israel. I think that all of the topicals on the drug store and supermarket shelves are probably fine. Just check that there are only three ingredients listed or if four, then the fourth is water.

Active Ingredient:Minoxidil 5% w/v (Hair regrowth treatment for men).Inactive Ingredients: alcohol, propylene glycol, purified water.

Three bottles of the below might last a year with once a day topical application and once a day oral ingestion.

https://www.amazon.com/Rogaine-Strength-Minoxidil-Solution-Treatment/dp/B0000Y8H3S
The tabs actually have more junk in them than the liquid:

Minoxidil (minoxidil (minoxidil (minoxidil tablets) tablets) tablets) Tablets USP 2.5 mg and 10 mg contain the following inactive ingredients: anhydrous lactose, docusate sodium, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, sodium benzoate and sodium starch glycolate.

 

[Norwoody]

@Norwoody If you don't mind, may I ask how do you cycle Bi-Estro? Like 3 weeks on then 1 week stop and again? Thank you.

Going with about 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. Gonna try this for the next few months. Honestly, my concern isn't even so much sides because like I said (and I know deathdiss has too) that even twice a day for that month I was completely fine. My reason for caution is to ensure that I don't suppress the HPA axis and affect my own endogenous production. With test/anabolics you aren't supposed to stay on more than 6-8 weeks and it takes about a month for most of those to clear the system and for HPA axis to return to normal endogenous production (sometimes ends up even higher if done conservatively). Some steroid cycles are done 3 weeks on 3 weeks off for 2-3 cycles before ceasing the rest of the year. I'm going to go a month on and off and see what happens by the summer.

 

[Norwoody]

Is it safe/effective to go on bica+E for short periods then back out and still maintain after? Or does it just shed off? How long was Noah on HRT?

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Is it safe/effective to go on bica+E for short periods then back out and still maintain after? Or does it just shed off? How long was Noah on HRT?

If you stop bica you can just waxx off your follicles and say good bye, cause they are then GONE for GOOD lmao

 

[Norwoody]

Holy crap so it is a life sentence.

 

[Norwoody]

Anyone know how concentrated a typical dose of estrogel is?