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October 15, 2017 at 11:53 pm



Hey Mike
There is a reader who Rob helped, who now has his own site. His testimony is also on the front page.
He had success with Dr . And his gains we’re permanent. Alot of people are reporting success with such methods.
He also Incorporated other regimens alongside Dr,but owed much of his success to it.
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    mike

    October 16, 2017 at 4:47 am



    Gentlemen, there’s a difference between short-term and long-term results and between partial and complete recovery of hair loss. Scalp massage and the dermaroller does provide some degree of hair loss recovery for some men who tried these therapies but no one to my knowledge has proven long-term success. Nor do we know how many men have tried those therapies and experienced no benefit. If anyone has found scientific research on long term effects please let us know. Remember, one swallow doesn’t make a summer as the saying goes.
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      Rob

      October 16, 2017 at 5:00 am



      Hey Mike — I agree that we can’t place too much of an emphasis on one person’s results with any regimen, then apply that regimen to everyone and expect the same degree of success. However, microneedling studies on humans for pattern hair loss have all produced the same directional results: improvement. The concept of wounding-healing via dermarolling hasn’t been around long enough for multi-year studies, but the key takeaways from the studies that are available are that wounding + DHT inhibition, or wounding + minoxidil, or wounding + PRP tends to reap far better results than wounding alone, DHT inhibition alone, or minoxidil alone. This is all encouraging.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3746236/
      http://www.e-ijd.org/article.asp?is...=60;issue=3;spage=260;epage=263;aulast=Dhurat
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28761259
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28771982
      In terms of partial versus full recoveries — we’ve yet to see full-blown recoveries from dermarolling alone. But that doesn’t mean we should discourage people from trying dermarolling + topical applications, or to continue microneedling to see how things go. After all, results seem to only improve with time. See the hair regrowth from this man, who’s included microneedling as part of his regimen for years:
      https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...inasteride-results-7-mo-treatment-pics.44087/
      Nick — if you want to dermaroll, go for it. But I’d suggest combining your dermarolling regimen with a topical, supplement, or both that will help mimic the effects of the adjunct treatments in the above studies (DHT inhibition, increased blood flow, PRP).

 

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Are you taking action on those odds? Cause nothing is guaranteed in the world of alopecia. Plenty of cis-females are on here who can't find anything that works.

Why don't you start with finasteride/Min like everyone else and then add bica if you need to. Because right now, you can't get your head around using "female" hormonal meds and that's how it should be. You are a guy and you want to stay a guy. Very few people in the world even attempt HRT for hair regrowth, male or female. And only the successful report back with claims which skews any idea of stochastic significance.
Unfortunately, you are correct. But if Bicalutamide helps me, it will help 99% of people if they notice baldness early. Because I have very aggressive baldness along with thinning of the sides above the ears.
 

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Unfortunately, you are correct. But if Bicalutamide helps me, it will help 99% of people if they notice baldness early. Because I have very aggressive baldness along with thinning of the sides above the ears.
I understand completely. There are few good options. I considered estrogen at 20 but the doctor said no. You are mastering the HRT topics and soon you will have a basis for how far you are willing to go. I mean, I probably wanted to present as female and I was repressed. Hair and gender go together for me. I have an FtM friend and we were talking about her hair concerns.
 
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I understand completely. There are few good options. I considered estrogen at 20 but the doctor said no. You are mastering the HRT topics and soon you will have a basis for how far you are willing to go. I mean, I probably wanted to present as female and I was repressed. Hair and gender go together for me. I have an FtM friend and we were talking about her hair concerns.
Estrogen is too strong, I'll leave it as a last resort. I hope for Bicalutamide. 75mg + finasteride should be very powerful and not expensive. I am NW1, my follicles are alive, so a little hair thickening and undo miniaturization will be enough for me. If I am as lucky as Ein, then I will be successful. The problem is that my baldness is completely different, similar to JacobWilliams, and even 150mg of Bika did not help him. So I have no idea what to expect. However, my skin has already improved, it looks great. Less grease, less pores, no blackheads, smooth
 

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Estrogen is too strong, I'll leave it as a last resort. I hope for Bicalutamide. 75mg + finasteride should be very powerful and not expensive. I am NW1, my follicles are alive, so a little hair thickening and undo miniaturization will be enough for me. If I am as lucky as Ein, then I will be successful. The problem is that my baldness is completely different, similar to JacobWilliams, and even 150mg of Bika did not help him. So I have no idea what to expect. However, my skin has already improved, it looks great. Less grease, less pores, no blackheads, smooth
It generally will push you in a neotenic direction facially which is perceived by most as being more attractive.
 
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It generally will push you in a neotenist direction facially which is perceived by most as being more attractive.
I have not experienced the full effects of Bica, but I really like my skin. She no longer looks like buttered orange peel
Asian, my face is so neotenic and plump. Hope it doesn't get too plump, I'm worried about my plump cheeks. But the skin must compensate for this: the cheeks are visually smaller if your skin is smooth and clean.
 

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I have not experienced the full effects of Bica, but I really like my skin. She no longer looks like buttered orange peel
Asian, my face is so neotenic and plump. Hope it doesn't get too plump, I'm worried about my plump cheeks. But the skin must compensate for this: the cheeks are visually smaller if your skin is smooth and clean.
“Plump cheeks”
 

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For anyone who don't mind ANY side effects and just wants HAIR (lost it recently)...

This might work you:

- 50mg Bicalutamide
- 2mg Estradiol / E2
- 1mg Finasteride
- 5mg Minoxidil

I AM NOT A MEDICAL ADVISOR! RESEARCH AND EVALUTE BY YOUR OWN, WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.
 

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Can you use E instead of bica?
I wouldn't recommend that. You need to use Bica to stop AR signaling. If you dont want to use bica, you need high E doses (8mg) to get T in castrate levels. And even then, AR signaling is not stopped.

For the cis-guys, I wouldn't overcross the Bica/E barrier. Bica is the LAST thing you want to use, to stay a "male" (somewhat).
Thats what I will do. Never touch E, is the man's rule! :)
 

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For anyone who don't mind ANY side effects and just wants HAIR (lost it recently)...

This might work you:

- 50mg Bicalutamide
- 2mg Estradiol / E2
- 1mg Finasteride
- 5mg Minoxidil

I AM NOT A MEDICAL ADVISOR! RESEARCH AND EVALUTE BY YOUR OWN, WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.
Anyone knows where i can obtain min pills?
 

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Makes sense, thanks. So do they work exponentially better at 50mg/2mg compared to if you took half of that? I'd be surprised if there would be no benefit to 25/1 compared to not taking them at all.

Thoughts on topical E?
 

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Makes sense, thanks. So do they work exponentially better at 50mg/2mg compared to if you took half of that? I'd be surprised if there would be no benefit to 25/1 compared to not taking them at all.

Thoughts on topical E?
25mg/4mg might be used.

I think even 25mg/2mg is enough.
 

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Makes sense, thanks. So do they work exponentially better at 50mg/2mg compared to if you took half of that? I'd be surprised if there would be no benefit to 25/1 compared to not taking them at all.

Thoughts on topical E?
Transdermal E (gel) might be even better. Gets immediately to your system and you dont swallow pills, harming your liver lol
 
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