Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Pls_NW-1]

Thanks guys!

I think calling people a coward for not trying HRT is inappropriate. That's not how it works. HRT is used to substitute your hormones. And I clearly don't want that, I thought about it for a year, and I would rather be bald than taking lifelong hrt. If it gets too bad I will wear a system or smt like that. To not get into a bad situation I will try to treat it as best as I can with treatments being recommended on here.

Oral minoxidil is on my list, so are other blockers, etc.

Anyways, I will keep this thread updated.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Thanks guys!

I think calling people a coward for not trying HRT is inappropriate. That's not how it works. HRT is used to substitute your hormones. And I clearly don't want that, I thought about it for a year, and I would rather be bald than taking lifelong hrt. If it gets too bad I will wear a system or smt like that. To not get into a bad situation I will try to treat it as best as I can with treatments being recommended on here.

Oral minoxidil is on my list, so are other blockers, etc.

Anyways, I will keep this thread updated.

I def don't blame you for avoiding hrt if it's for hair alone and you don't have any issues with with your gender. I haven't really followed your situation, so I am not sure what you've tried or can't try for whatever reason, but is finasteride or dutasteride off the table?

 

[Solxama]

Thanks guys!

I think calling people a coward for not trying HRT is inappropriate. That's not how it works. HRT is used to substitute your hormones. And I clearly don't want that, I thought about it for a year, and I would rather be bald than taking lifelong hrt. If it gets too bad I will wear a system or smt like that. To not get into a bad situation I will try to treat it as best as I can with treatments being recommended on here.

Oral minoxidil is on my list, so are other blockers, etc.

Anyways, I will keep this thread updated.

First a disclaimer : I'm not trying to force you to change your mind on treatment. I can understand that if you are fully cis you might not want to try some treatments like Estrogen.

However, I must correct a big misconception you just presented. HRT does not need to be taken non stop if it's just for hair. It can be taken until somebody regains lost hair and then maintained on Fina/Duta. Maybe even oral minoxidil could do the maintenance job.

I've noticed a big lack of knowledge on HRT from some people. It won't turn anybody into a girl if they do not desire it. Yes, some feminization will happen, but most is reversible if not on it for long, or used in cycles. The beard will still grow, sexual function will remain etc. Trans women have to do more then just hormones to be feminine. And some things will never change on Estrogen, like voice for example.

The only thing HRT will do if no other feminizing steps are taken is make somebody look younger, give them some amount of gyno and stop hair loss /regrow hair. If taken long term also things like less body hair on chest, legs, abdomen etc, female fat redistribution and infertility. But this is long term.

This fear mongering is stupid, and I'm not just talking about HRT here, but fear mongering about basic stuff like Fina ffs. Desperate people suffer because of this behavior.

I'm not taking about you here @Pls_NW-1 , you are sensible and don't fear monger. It's other people I'm talking about, the "Fina made my balls fall off" crowd to be precise.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I def don't blame you for avoiding hrt if it's for hair alone and you don't have any issues with with your gender. I haven't really followed your situation, so I am not sure what you've tried or can't try for whatever reason, but is finasteride or dutasteride off the table?

heya!

I probably got a chronical hormonal imbalance. I am still waiting for the test results of the gene test. They're thinking I have a late onset of an AGS-syndrome. It's very well treatable with - HRT lol, but taking Cortisol.

Because of the hormonal imbalance, my doctors said to be to totally stop finasteride, till the problem isn't cleared out.

The funny thing is, I hadn't any side effects on finasteride

 

[Almas_NW0]

heya!

I probably got a chronical hormonal imbalance. I am still waiting for the test results of the gene test. They're thinking I have a late onset of an AGS-syndrome. It's very well treatable with - HRT lol, but taking Cortisol.

Because of the hormonal imbalance, my doctors said to be to totally stop finasteride, till the problem isn't cleared out.

The funny thing is, I hadn't any side effects on finasteride

Good luck listening to doctors about medications. Trichologists should have taught you to be critical of the doctors' words
I bet finasteride doesn’t affect your problems (if any, which I doubt), but the doctors don’t know anything about it and have banned it just in case.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Good luck listening to doctors about medications. Trichologists should have taught you to be critical of the doctors' words
I bet finasteride doesn’t affect your problems (if any, which I doubt), but the doctors don’t know anything about it and have banned it just in case.

Hm... the doctors I currently visit aren't any dumb trichologists. I learned this last year.

They are good and specialized endocrinologists and oncologists

 

[Solxama]

Hm... the doctors I currently visit aren't any dumb trichologists. I learned this last year.

They are good and specialized endocrinologists and oncologists

Even if you think they are good I would get second or third opinions if I were you. Doctors are only human afterall, and a lot of them don't really know much about stuff beyond their expertise. So for example a doctor who treats mostly elderly patients would be more likely to screw up treatment of a young patient etc.

Also they can be pretty dumb on some occasions, trans healthcare is a prime example. They basically give people very small doses that do not work very well, and don't understand what trans people want to achieve. Here in the UK it's so laughably bad that trans people themselves know more about medication and dosing then the so called experts.

I know I may sound cynical, but that's the world we live in. When I was a teen I also fully trusted every doctor, so did my mum for years. Didn't go well for her. In the end she met competent and good doctors, but it took a very long time and multiple visits to many different clinics and hospitals.

 

[Derelict]

Been taking 1mg progynova regularly now for a bit, so it's 0.5mg dutasteride, 200mg spironolactone, 10mg oral minoxidil, 1m progynova and 10ml castor oil along with a myriad of supplements. I m not encountering any sides whatsoever, no libido problems, no gyno etc will take it for another 3 or 4 months then decide whether to increase to 2mg.

 

[Solxama]

Been taking 1mg progynova regularly now for a bit, so it's 0.5mg dutasteride, 200mg spironolactone, 10mg oral minoxidil, 1m progynova and 10ml castor oil along with a myriad of supplements. I m not encountering any sides whatsoever, no libido problems, no gyno etc will take it for another 3 or 4 months then decide whether to increase to 2mg.

This is just more evidence to support my claim, Estrogen is heavily dose dependent and won't turn anybody into a girl if they do not desire it.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Even if you think they are good I would get second or third opinions if I were you. Doctors are only human afterall, and a lot of them don't really know much about stuff beyond their expertise. So for example a doctor who treats mostly elderly patients would be more likely to screw up treatment of a young patient etc.

Also they can be pretty dumb on some occasions, trans healthcare is a prime example. They basically give people very small doses that do not work very well, and don't understand what trans people want to achieve. Here in the UK it's so laughably bad that trans people themselves know more about medication and dosing then the so called experts.

I know I may sound cynical, but that's the world we live in. When I was a teen I also fully trusted every doctor, so did my mum for years. Didn't go well for her. In the end she met competent and good doctors, but it took a very long time and multiple visits to many different clinics and hospitals.

That's soo true, my current doctors I am visiting right now are my sixth.

I was very unhappy with the one's before. I will definitely check out another doctor.

 

[Solxama]

That's soo true, my current doctors I am visiting right now are my sixth.

I was very unhappy with the one's before. I will definitely check out another doctor.

Good you know this. A lot of people are blind to medical incompetence. I hope you find somebody good at some point.

But still even then, trust yourself the most when it comes to health. You know best how you feel after all.

 

[Solxama]

7 weeks of HRT tomorrow, crown has recovered by I'd say 95%. No minoxidil, just Fina and Estrogen. I am not counting Bica or CPA as I've only been on Cypro since 4 days, and I had to stop Bica after 1.5 weeks.

 

[Almas_NW0]

7 weeks of HRT tomorrow, crown has recovered by I'd say 95%. No minoxidil, just Fina and Estrogen. I am not counting Bica or CPA as I've only been on Cypro since 4 days, and I had to stop Bica after 1.5 weeks.

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I would not say that it is 95%. The quality of your hair is poor. And it's harder to improve quality. I am already Norwood 0, however, due to the quality of my hair, I am still far from achieving 100% regeneration

 

[MylovelyHair]

7 weeks of HRT tomorrow, crown has recovered by I'd say 95%. No minoxidil, just Fina and Estrogen. I am not counting Bica or CPA as I've only been on Cypro since 4 days, and I had to stop Bica after 1.5 weeks.

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i am so happy for you my friend .Crown looking thick and impressive !!!

I would not say that it is 95%. The quality of your hair is poor. And it's harder to improve quality. I am already Norwood 0, however, due to the quality of my hair, I am still far from achieving 100% regeneration

Almas what is your situation atm are you trying to regrow maintain or thicken up your hair?? Do you have any before after for temples and crown?

 

[Solxama]

I would not say that it is 95%. The quality of your hair is poor. And it's harder to improve quality. I am already Norwood 0, however, due to the quality of my hair, I am still far from achieving 100% regeneration

Oh believe me it's 95% compared to before HRT. I was fully bald at the top of my crown. Plus my hair is still short, give it a few months and it should look better. Also quality is much better then it was, it was very weak and nearly colorless before HRT, now it's regaining it's natural color. I'm not comparing myself to somebody with great hair, but to my own situation from a few months ago.

So for me this is progress.

 

[Almas_NW0]

i am so happy for you my friend .Crown looking thick and impressive !!!

Almas what is your situation atm are you trying to regrow maintain or thicken up your hair?? Do you have any before after for temples and crown?

Both. I now have short hair along the Norwood 0 line and short hair in the middle. By the new year I have to be a Norwood 0 with terminal hair and next year I have to improve my hair quality. I don't know how long it will take, but I think 9-12 months, including those 3.5 months
I will send you updates every 3 months, because the changes in the shorter time frame are minor

 

[MylovelyHair]

Both. I now have short hair along the Norwood 0 line and short hair in the middle. By the new year I have to be a Norwood 0 with terminal hair and next year I have to improve my hair quality. I don't know how long it will take, but I think 9-12 months, including those 3.5 months
I will send you updates every 3 months, because the changes in the shorter time frame are minor

Hope you kill that androgen desease

 

[MylovelyHair]

Guys i know that you are experts here i wanted to ask the following question: Why dutasteride decreases dht pruduction 93-95 % and then i have seen comments that it decreases only 55% dht in the scalp!! How do you decrease dht 95% everywhere?? enlightened me to destroy this poisonous substance!

 

[Trafalgar Law]

7 weeks of HRT tomorrow, crown has recovered by I'd say 95%. No minoxidil, just Fina and Estrogen. I am not counting Bica or CPA as I've only been on Cypro since 4 days, and I had to stop Bica after 1.5 weeks.

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Congratulations on your progress! Your crown definitely looks better compared to your previous photos. I see you are currently using finasteride, estrogel, and CPA. Is your regime expensive? How much does it cost monthly? I am doing well on finasteride and dutasteride but I am considering adding HRT in the future in case if my gains plateau.

 

[Solxama]

Congratulations on your progress! Your crown definitely looks better compared to your previous photos. I see you are currently using finasteride, estrogel, and CPA. Is your regime expensive? How much does it cost monthly? I am doing well on finasteride and dutasteride but I am considering adding HRT in the future in case if my gains plateau.

My whole yearly supply for my regimen cost me about 400£, so not to bad. That's about 500$. HRT is pretty cheap compared to other medication. And if you can cope with the feminizing effects then go for it if you feel the need. It's the nuclear weapon against androgenic hair loss.