Follica - Other New Patent 2017 - Methods For Treating Baldness And Promoting Hair Growth

[Pray The Bald Away]

Lol ! Yes of course, here is the source for the pdf
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We don't deserve you, Noisette. Thank you so much for your time and all the researching you've done. You're the best.

 

[H]

Yep, it could be that one pass of the treatment might leave a NW7 with a bit of a diffuse NW2, but if you wouldn't take that as a "baldite", then it's obvious that baldness is just a crutch you don't want to lose.

Are you saying in one wounding session it might leave nw7 diffuse 2?

 

[hanginginthewire]

I'm not sure what 25 hair per cm sq looks like, but I assume from your post that it must be greater than what was seen in the Dhurat study or successful dermarollers on this site.

In which case, it would definitely be sufficient.

Math is not my strong suit and maybe I'm missing something, but google is telling me that hair transplant doctors typically aim for 50 to 75 hair per cm sq. 25 seems to be cosmetically unacceptable. "Somebody" looks great though, so I don't know. As mentioned we need a Follica source for a specific number.

 

[H]

@Christian Miller Is there something wrong with my question?

 

[Tano1]

I'm not sure what world you're living in where it's not possible for this to grow enough hair across the top of the head or restore a hairline. Also, can anyone actually source this supposed claim from Follica because I've seen people say it online, but never have I found any official documentation.

and again, the process can be done as many times as need be. It's not like you just go over a scalp once and then you're like "Well, f*** it. Whatever we got the first time is what we get." Theoretically, the amount of hair you should be able to regrow should only be limited to how much skin there is.

You're telling me that patient one here:

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or one of our own users going from this

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To this

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Via repeated dermarolling and the big 3 over the span of 5 years since he began rolling is an insufficient amount of hair?

Get your eyes checked, please. There is not a sane person alive who would not take these kinds of results from a therapy that could guarantee it.

People need to stop rooting for the different upcoming technologies like they're god damn sports teams; it doesn't matter who wins it matters that someone does.

Wounding is a proven method, it's just that the underlying mechanisms are poorly understood by most who try it. Follica has been researching this stuff for a long time and most of that research is no doubt how to get the most amount of hair to grow from a single session.

Those of us who actually want to end this nightmare, will wind up using this. Yep, it could be that one pass of the treatment might leave a NW7 with a bit of a diffuse NW2, but if you wouldn't take that as a "baldite", then it's obvious that baldness is just a crutch you don't want to lose.

Wish I would've seen those pics just 1 year ago and I would've never had a transplant...

Welp hope for scars though so I'm still in it to win it. Regardless of who brings the cure as long as it is here!

 

[Christian Miller]

@Christian Miller Is there something wrong with my question?

It's ignorant.
Please, read the relevant paper thoroughly.
The answer to your question is in there.

 

[H]

It's ignorant.
Please, read the relevant paper thoroughly.
The answer to your question is in there.

Please reread my question. I was asking him to clarify his opinion not anything about the study.

 

[Roberto_72]

yeah i remember. prob the reason i gave it up.

so you didnt give it up for fear of scarring and potentially f*****g up your scalp for future treatments?

you think using the 1.5mm once a week, as quoted in the studies, is fine then?

1.5 mm dermarolling scares me a bit because, after a transplant, the last thing you want to do is make those costly new follicles bleed.

 

[Christian Miller]

Please reread my question. I was asking him to clarify his opinion not anything about the study.

What's wiser: to ask somebody that knows very little about this or to look for any answers in the papers themselves?
Nobody in here is more knowledgeable than you can be, if you search and read the f-ing papers!

 

[MrV88]

What's wiser: to ask somebody that knows very little about this or to look for any answers in the papers themselves?
Nobody in here is more knowledgeable than you can be, if you search and read the f-ing papers!

Lol, this ain't no university, this is a dumb forum where every 3-4 pages someone's asks the same question. No need to be so aggressive.

 

[Christian Miller]

Lol, this ain't no university, this is a dumb forum where every 3-4 pages someone's asks the same question. No need to be so aggressive.

I'm fed up, my Turkish amigo.
Tamam?

 

[MrV88]

I'm fed up, my Turkish amigo.
Tamam?

Then you are going to get totally crazy untill all the right sh*t comes out. Wrong place to get pissed by people that you don't even know, especially if nobody has the right answer at the moment everything could change at any moment, this is science...

 

[Christian Miller]

Then you are going to get totally crazy untill all the right sh*t comes out. Wrong place to get pissed by people that you don't even know, especially if nobody has the right answer at the moment everything could change at any moment, this is science...

I ain't getting anywhere near being crazy.
Restoring my hair ain't my biggest priority in life, arkadaș.

 

[sangan89]

If figure 2-5 are the same person then holy shite those results are amazing. That'd be recovery from the point of no return.

Gives me a bit more hope on follica's potential results.

don't forget in these images they always choose the patient which responded better... for one image like that, we probably have 100 patients with ZERO results.

anyway, there is no doubt anymore that this whole follica thing is just normal microneedling + minoxidil with some shitty coffeine or so inside... as an IP lawyer, I think it is almost embarassing they were granted a patent on this sh*t, since seems like there is nothing really new in it, except maybe the needling device, which nevertheless is not functional to solve some actually concrete problem... so just nother huge disappointment with follica as with the brotzu sh*t

 

[mdmnota]

In those beatiful ten years behind is, did folica give any picture of their patients?

 

[sangan89]

In those beatiful ten years behind is, did folica give any picture of their patients?

apparently only of those 3 patients that got some results

 

[MomoGee]

don't forget in these images they always choose the patient which responded better... for one image like that, we probably have 100 patients with ZERO results.

anyway, there is no doubt anymore that this whole follica thing is just normal microneedling + minoxidil with some shitty coffeine or so inside... as an IP lawyer, I think it is almost embarassing they were granted a patent on this sh*t, since seems like there is nothing really new in it, except maybe the needling device, which nevertheless is not functional to solve some actually concrete problem... so just nother huge disappointment with follica as with the brotzu sh*t

That's a ridiculous claim. The study only has 18 people with 14 people having success.

Not every success is a dramatic comeback and some may even have enough hair where only maintenance and improvement in pull test is required. Posting before and after pics of people with thinning but where the scalp isn't noticeable is utterly pointless.

 

[coolio]

In those beatiful ten years behind is, did folica give any picture of their patients?

Follica also hasn't tried to get our money in any way in all those beautiful ten years behind us, unlike most of the other hair multiplication operations.

Privately funded.
Not seeking investors for each new trial.
Not trying to hold up a stock price.
Not seeking very much attention in general.

It doesn't prove anything about their hair progress either way. But it's worth understanding this when we try to guess how they are doing.

 

[wow-wow]

I don't understand something.
Follica claimed that their devoce alone could get 100 hairs per cm2 : 25 terminal and 75 vellus .
So what about it? If this it true it could be a cure for many peope with early male pattern baldness , is this true?

 

[That Guy]

Follica also hasn't tried to get our money in any way in all those beautiful ten years behind us, unlike most of the other hair multiplication operations.

Privately funded.
Not seeking investors for each new trial.
Not trying to hold up a stock price.
Not seeking very much attention in general.

It doesn't prove anything about their hair progress either way. But it's worth understanding this when we try to guess how they are doing.

Unfortunately, it's trying to reason with lunatics who desperately want a cure but also believe that every company that operates like every other legitimate pharma company must be a "scam" while treating companies that operate more like scams as "legit" because "dey haz picshurssss!" The only reason at all there are pictures of some of the upcoming treatments is because most are from biotech startups that rely entirely on investor $ and as such try to attract as much of it as possible.

Meanwhile, there are dozens of drugs and cosmetic treatments that are undergoing the same secretive process as Follica as we speak and people waiting to use them aren't on the internet screaming that it will be disappointing or whatever because they don't have total transparency and access to all the data and photos in real time.

Again, this isn't like buying Chinese lasercombs or unapproved, black-market drugs mixed in some shady-*** lab in Hong Kong. The system has standards and is working as intended.

It's getting pathetic. I don't care to look, but I have my doubts that in the late 90s, when v**** was coming out, that there were all these guys on forums doubting the product's capabilities because v**** hadn't shown them enough pictures of diamond-hard, senior-citizen c****.

 

[H]

Has micro needling ever been attempted for facial hair?