Deciding factor in what? The only deciding factor I need are my eyes and a brain. I have seen bald men with decent looking women with my own eyes. You don't need to be a NW3 or up to make this observation. You are trying to debate something you can't really refute.
For those who think they will never get a decent looking girlfriend
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Deciding factor in what? The only deciding factor I need are my eyes and a brain. I have seen bald men with decent looking women with my own eyes. You don't need to be a NW3 or up to make this observation. You are trying to debate something you can't really refute.
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Married, probably not.
Right now I am having fun, meeting lot's of girls but if the right girls comes my way then I would be open to the idea of being in a relationship. However, relationships are not easy take lots of work and the feelings need to be strong, and mutual. For me, it's a matter of having a romantic partner, and a chick who is my bestfriend. Any less and there is no reason for me to be in a relationship with her.
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Right now I am having fun, meeting lot's of girls but if the right girls comes my way then I would be open to the idea of being in a relationship. However, relationships are not easy take lots of work and the feelings need to be strong, and mutual. For me, it's a matter of having a romantic partner, and a chick who is my bestfriend. Any less and there is no reason for me to be in a relationship with her.
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And another question, do you too also expect to get laid with a girl on a first date? if she makes you work for it or doesn't give in first date, do you just drop her with the mindset that if it was a model looking/ or at least hotter guy she would give in right away, or do you accept it and keeps courting for a second date or so?
shookwun
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I dont expect to get laid, how ever I would like to if the opportunity arises.
I will go on another date. it's no big deal.
need to rid yourself of this cuck fantasy that **** you read online about everyone ****ing on the first date.
I will admit though, that the last three girls I saw resulted in sex, sex, blowjob. (last 3 weeks)
Every since I stoped taking chicks out for coffee I have been getting laid on first dates. When I did the coffee **** it never led to anything, maybe a make out... but thats about it.
where do you take them? a bar?
Also, I know not everyone is getting laid on first date, never believed such a fantasy, but after I've seen several experiments people did, making a fake profile of a hot/ model looking guy on tinder and others apps, and then seeing how girls interact with them and how they turn into super easy sl*ts that are basically falling to their feet, and on the other hand playing hard to get and claiming to have self respect- only to the average looking guy.
so I do know that if someone is hot enough they will have no problem getting laid on first dates the majority of times. in fact from what I saw there is no need for a date, just to ask for a number and set a time.
winnyblues
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Of course its a dark place, when you have the likes of fred and his band of followers preaching all women are b****s, and that looks are everything you know this is a dark place.
Not to mention now we got nameless saying age reversing is happening soon and its a combination of the deluded and the losers now
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100% guarantee fred is a loser irl
One needs to be prepared to drink all rejections and mean comments insulting you if you are not upto the mark to the people expected standards.
Guys few week back..
One very beautiful girls parents wish to meet me at my home.
She is really really beautiful and senior dr of my crush who rejected me.
So i was frightened as fccc,
So when they were in my house.
I first denied to be going in front of them.
But went to them after few minutes with a confidence like when someone goes to buy lottery ticket.
So they talked with me about my career prospects and all that.
It takes very much of a girl to marry not so good looking guy.
But one should always live with life without a inferiority complex, and all that.
Your family you have got once in a life.
Let's make them feel proud of you.
Some day or another,
One girl may like u for what you are.
I will love to marry a girl who will love me for what i am.
Guys few week back..
One very beautiful girls parents wish to meet me at my home.
She is really really beautiful and senior dr of my crush who rejected me.
So i was frightened as fccc,
So when they were in my house.
I first denied to be going in front of them.
But went to them after few minutes with a confidence like when someone goes to buy lottery ticket.
So they talked with me about my career prospects and all that.
It takes very much of a girl to marry not so good looking guy.
But one should always live with life without a inferiority complex, and all that.
Your family you have got once in a life.
Let's make them feel proud of you.
Some day or another,
One girl may like u for what you are.
I will love to marry a girl who will love me for what i am.
The reason I ignored his questions is because they were completely irrelevant to the discussion I was having with him. When I engage in a discussion, I try to stay focused on the topic. I argued that since there are bald men with good looking women, it's possible for bald men to get women. Shook argued that if you are below NW3, your argument is not valid. Shook committed logical fallacy here. Instead of dealing with my argument, he started questioning me. Anyway, I have no problem answering his questions. Here are they.
What is your Norwood?
Norwood 2.5 I believe.
Do you have a girlfriend?
No.
Are you subjectively handsome? (Do women message, and match up with you frequently on dating applications. Do women frquentely call you handsome in real life?) It's not hard to know if you are good looking.
Eight years ago, before my hairloss started, I would have called myself handsome. But I think I am just average now. It's pretty rare for me to get matched on dating applications.
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Hahaha you're having a fun time bro! Your confidence must have really gone up after the hair transplants. You've gotten more action in three weeks than I did in my entire life, lmao
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I appreciate the honesty. A lot of people here insist continuously they are good looking, but it is not up to them to say :-/
however, I do not agree with Shook's idea that, if you are good looking, you will receive compliments. It depends on the context. If you work in a rigid workplace, have just a few friends and do not frequent dating apps, you will not be commented on a lot.
If women do not make a pass at you in the subway it does not mean you are not good, or decent, looking.
What has Shookwun asked that has not been answered? Tell me Fred. I assure you I will answer it. Instead of addressing my core argument, Shookwun started asking irrelevant questions that I did answer anyway. It seems like people here really have trouble staying on topic. Anyway, here is my core argument in case you haven't figured it out yet.
"Since there are bald men with decent looking women, it is POSSIBLE for bald men to get women. "
Shookwun didn't address this argument at all. Please go back and re read his responses objectively and you will see how weak they really are.
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I just don't see how anybody could be motivated to get into flame wars on this forum, to raise their cortisol levels and get into fights with people they don't know ... on a hair loss help forum.
IMO, the greatest losers here are plausibly the ones picking fights.
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That argument is neither original nor clever.
It's possible to get good looking women if you are bald, short, weak, or in a wheelchair.
But it's much harder, not just to get them, but also to keep them. The successful cases tend to be men who overwhelmingly compensate in other ways.
It's also possible to run a marathon with little training. However, you're much more likely to finish in a good time if you have trained properly.
IMO, the greatest losers here are plausibly the ones picking fights.
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That argument is neither original nor clever.
It's possible to get good looking women if you are bald, short, weak, or in a wheelchair.
But it's much harder, not just to get them, but also to keep them. The successful cases tend to be men who overwhelmingly compensate in other ways.
It's also possible to run a marathon with little training. However, you're much more likely to finish in a good time if you have trained properly.
blackg
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Exactly! +1
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Agree 100 percent. Plus any fool who actually uses the word "loser" usually fits the description perfect themselves.
FWIW
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Its about statistics AND about age AND about facial structure AND!..... money.
You HAVE to differentiate between age groups.20s,30s,40s... Big difference. And also longevity and happines in the relationship-you dont read that from outside.
Im comfortable with saying that in 20s your chances to get good girl and keep her go down more than 90 percent if you are not extremely handsome and you go below NW3.Only looks matters.
In 30s the probability rises, especially if you have good job-because she will need provider- nw1s not so much-they are too busy chasing hotties while uglies study and work hard-have better jobs.Again not everytime,but you see that alot.
40s - you can do fine-not best,but fine,almost normal chances. Quite well if you are under nw4.But...who wants 40s?
End word
I know 11 Norwood 5 or 7 between 28-44 and NONE of them has solid wife or girl. Theones who do have somebody-fat or ugly or both. The rest are lonely incels...
I did have very beautifull and cutest gf when I went from nw3 to Norwood 5 between 18 and 20. She left her tall,handsome Norwood 1 ex for me and I didnt even have to do any effort. told me she will never leave me...when she dumped me 2 years latter she seemed she wanted me dead,the reason she dumped me was because "the love vanished" and I didnt love her enough.Yeah right... I was still the same,just my hair went to Norwood 5.
NO girl hasnt shown any sympathy for me since then. 6 years..
So yes you can get girl as young baldie ,but the chances you will keep are very very very slim IMO.
You HAVE to differentiate between age groups.20s,30s,40s... Big difference. And also longevity and happines in the relationship-you dont read that from outside.
Im comfortable with saying that in 20s your chances to get good girl and keep her go down more than 90 percent if you are not extremely handsome and you go below NW3.Only looks matters.
In 30s the probability rises, especially if you have good job-because she will need provider- nw1s not so much-they are too busy chasing hotties while uglies study and work hard-have better jobs.Again not everytime,but you see that alot.
40s - you can do fine-not best,but fine,almost normal chances. Quite well if you are under nw4.But...who wants 40s?
End word
I know 11 Norwood 5 or 7 between 28-44 and NONE of them has solid wife or girl. Theones who do have somebody-fat or ugly or both. The rest are lonely incels...
I did have very beautifull and cutest gf when I went from nw3 to Norwood 5 between 18 and 20. She left her tall,handsome Norwood 1 ex for me and I didnt even have to do any effort. told me she will never leave me...when she dumped me 2 years latter she seemed she wanted me dead,the reason she dumped me was because "the love vanished" and I didnt love her enough.Yeah right... I was still the same,just my hair went to Norwood 5.
NO girl hasnt shown any sympathy for me since then. 6 years..
So yes you can get girl as young baldie ,but the chances you will keep are very very very slim IMO.
Your assumption is completely baseless. I created this thread to share my experiences so that those of us who have lost all hope to get a decent girlfriend/wife have a reason to be hopeful and work on improving themselves.
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I never claimed it to be an original or clever argument. And since you admit that it is POSSIBLE for bald men to get women, you agree with me.
The funny thing is that not once have you mentioned that those girls may have left you for other guys because of your messed up personality. Knowing how you think and how vindictive you are (as shown in many posts on here), any decent woman should (!) run a mile when they find out what you are really like. And don't give me the 'my personality in real life is not like on here' cr*p. True personality is something which will come out and i've even seen you post on here about laughing at people's appearance in real life etc. I don't think you ever will find a truly decent woman and that has nothing to do with the state of your hair.
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Despite all the real life examples.
Fred is a muppet /thread.