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[Afro_Vacancy]

Now that I'm 32, I find a lot of women in their 30s hot.

When I was 25, I'd only find women in their 30s hot if they were exceptional celebrities.

Similarly, when I was 12, I was into 11-13 year-old girls.

Tastes change as you get older. Sexuality is partly socially constructed and tastes emerge from those you surround yourself with.

 

[Hairon]

Now that I'm 32, I find a lot of women in their 30s hot.

When I was 25, I'd only find women in their 30s hot if they were exceptional celebrities.

Similarly, when I was 12, I was into 11-13 year-old girls.

Tastes change as you get older. Sexuality is partly socially constructed and tastes emerge from those you surround yourself with.

but would you be with a 30 years old washed out woman who fkced many studs during her prime and now reached the stage where she is looking for more than just looks?

 

[pjhair]

but would you be with a 30 years old washed out woman who fkced many studs during her prime and now reached the stage where she is looking for more than just looks?

These kind of statements are too generic. I feel sorry for those on this forum who take them seriously,

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

but would you be with a 30 years old washed out woman who fkced many studs during her prime and now reached the stage where she is looking for more than just looks?

A woman who's had a great sex life is likely to be better in bed.
Further, if a woman is hot and not religious or a lunatic by other means, it's almost certain that she's had a great sex life. So there's no avoiding it if she's good looking. Independently of that I have no interest in very religious women. If they want a man who puts Jesus first then they can find someone else.
There will be exceptions, for example if she's a rape victim with post-traumatic stress disorder, then it may take a lot of time, diligence, and compassion before being sexually comfortable. My understanding is that people overcome this.

"Past her prime", that depends. If she's taken care of herself and has aged gracefully then she's still hot. If she's let herself go with the alcohol, the bread, the tobacco, et cetera then I'm less likely to forgive.

As I'm moving to the USA in September, I will need to be careful of women secretly carrying 200,000 dollars in student loans and credit card debt. That's common in that country. Good way to destroy my life.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

These kind of statements are too generic. I feel sorry for those on this forum who take them seriously,

I think he's goofing off.

 

[pjhair]

I think he's goofing off.

I know. But there are those on this forum who take these kind of statements very seriously. My comment was directed towards them.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Agree 100%. Anyone who doesn't realize this just hasn't had the life experiences. I'm 34 and last year i was setup on a blind date (unbeknownst to me) with a 43 year old woman - weird right? Goddamn she was drop dead gorgeous - my jaw was on the floor staring at her as she walked in and that was even before i realized she was my date. Got along pretty damn well. Don't underestimate a sexy 30+ yo woman; in fact, the young 20-25yo women have no appeal to me at all. Most of them are juvenile and superficial.

By the way, i'm not sure if i'm the only guy who feels this way but you can drop a 10/10 woman on my lap and if her personality sucks i will tell her to take a hike. I have no patience for stupidity or "b**ch" attitude - to me, personality is a deal breaker; does not matter how hot you are.

The only constant in my tastes as an adult is that I prefer smart women. All of the women I've been into as an adult have moved on to smart people careers:
- Medicine;
- Social worker dealing with sex abuse victims;
- Notary (a little lower ...);
- Design anthropologist;
- Human development specialist with the state department, last I ckecked;
- Electrical engineer, last I checked;

I think this is one of the causes of repetitive debates on this forum. Fred, who is the most quoted poster on this forum, is very vocal for preferring women of low intelligence. He has said that he has never and will never date a woman with an IQ >~ 115. He prefers women who are dim or average and have limited interests and drive. On a related note, he also says that the women he meets don't care about personality.

 

[Hairon]

A woman who's had a great sex life is likely to be better in bed.
Further, if a woman is hot and not religious or a lunatic by other means, it's almost certain that she's had a great sex life. So there's no avoiding it if she's good looking. Independently of that I have no interest in very religious women. If they want a man who puts Jesus first then they can find someone else.
There will be exceptions, for example if she's a rape victim with post-traumatic stress disorder, then it may take a lot of time, diligence, and compassion before being sexually comfortable. My understanding is that people overcome this.

"Past her prime", that depends. If she's taken care of herself and has aged gracefully then she's still hot. If she's let herself go with the alcohol, the bread, the tobacco, et cetera then I'm less likely to forgive.

As I'm moving to the USA in September, I will need to be careful of women secretly carrying 200,000 dollars in student loans and credit card debt. That's common in that country. Good way to destroy my life.

I simply do not get all of the comments about gold diggers or women searching for beta providers and all that, or just like you said, watching out from women secretly carrying 200k dollars in student loands credit card debt.

in a relationship, of when you date someone, you don't pay her for everything, she puts in money as well, and if she doesn't, well then that's a red flag by itself.
so I don't get how people fall for it.
and if you decide to get married, simply always do a financial agreement before. or no marriage.

 

[pjhair]

By the way, i'm not sure if i'm the only guy who feels this way but you can drop a 10/10 woman on my lap and if her personality sucks i will tell her to take a hike. I have no patience for stupidity or "b**ch" attitude - to me, personality is a deal breaker; does not matter how hot you are.

For me personally, beauty of a women is the starting point. I wouldn't even consider her dating if I don't find her good looking, no matter how great her personality is. That said, I don't like "b****s" as well. If a girl looks like goddess but is a b**ch, I will lose interest in her eventually. But between beauty and personality, beauty wins for me every time.

 

[Hairon]

These kind of statements are too generic. I feel sorry for those on this forum who take them seriously,

I personally was goofing off, even though that I personally wouldn't date a woman who was whoring around in her life, I probably wouldn't have a way to know, but if I found out, it will be a deal breaker.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I simply do not get all of the comments about gold diggers or women searching for beta providers and all that, or just like you said, watching out from women secretly carrying 200k dollars in student loands credit card debt.

in a relationship, of when you date someone, you don't pay her for everything, she puts in money as well, and if she doesn't, well then that's a red flag by itself.
so I don't get how people fall for it.
and if you decide to get married, simply always do a financial agreement before. or no marriage.

I won't just be looking for sex/romance, though that's the starting point.
I want to have children and will be looking for wife.

The historical purpose of marriage is not a celebration of lust but a financial contract to increase the odds of offspring growing up in a healthy environment. A woman drowning in debt is much less likely to be a good parent.

I'm sure many women are gold diggers and I don't begrudge them for that. It's a rational decision to prefer a man with money and social status other things being equal. Everything will be easier. It means she'll be more comfortable, that she'll have vacations, and that her kids will have more opportunities.

Keep in mind a plausible evolutionary reason why women prefer tall, muscular men with broad shoulders, strong forearms, good hand eye coordination and speed. It's because in the African Savannah, where we evolved, those men were better bets at killing animals and bringing them home. Having money and social status is the modern equivalent of that.

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Comments about "beta providers" are stupid. Within capitalism, the more money you make, the more of an alpha you are. It's a very tight correlation.

 

[Hairon]

I won't just be looking for sex/romance, though that's the starting point.
I want to have children and will be looking for wife.

The historical purpose of marriage is not a celebration of lust but a financial contract to increase the odds of offspring growing up in a healthy environment. A woman drowning in debt is much less likely to be a good parent.

I'm sure many women are gold diggers and I don't begrudge them for that. It's a rational decision to prefer a man with money and social status other things being equal. Everything will be easier. It means she'll be more comfortable, that she'll have vacations, and that her kids will have more opportunities.

Keep in mind a plausible evolutionary reason why women prefer tall, muscular women with broad shoulders, strong forearms, good hand eye coordination and speed. It's because in the African Savannah, where we evolved, those men were better bets at killing animals and bringing them home. Having money and social status is the modern equivalent of that.

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Comments about "beta providers" are stupid. Within capitalism, the more money you make, the more of an alpha you are. It's a very tight correlation.

not entirely true because if a man look really good women would want to be with him even if he didn't have much money (and yes being with him as in giving him offsprings)

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

not entirely true because if a man look really good women would want to be with him even if he didn't have much money (and yes being with him as in giving him offsprings)

Yes, if he's extremely good looking then a lot of women will be happy having him around if he stays home, eats cheetos and smokes weed all day.

Like I said a page back or so it's important not to forget that there is diversity in tastes out there.

 

[pjhair]

not entirely true because if a man look really good women would want to be with him even if he didn't have much money (and yes being with him as in giving him offsprings)

David used the qualifier "other things being equal". Between two men of similar looks, women will usually choose a man with more money and higher social status.

 

[Hairon]

David used the qualifier "other things being equal". Between two men of similar looks, women will usually choose a man with more money and higher social status.

well obviously, of course a rich and high status 9/10 man is better than just a 9/10 man.
how is that even a question

 

[I.D WALKER]

If you're a guy open to a serious relationship, then social/mutual compatibility is essential in your prospective dame's personality department.
Obviously her good looks are a bonus and will count for something, but if her social disposition is unappealing, and you're plainly mismatched early on, you can pretty much count on a future overshadowed by
big disappointment.
Through no fault of her own maybe, a woman's physical beauty is a brilliant seductress..,
A dazzling spectacle guaranteed to blind a fellow's better judgement
and discombobulate his finer senses.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

If you're a guy open to a serious relationship, then social/mutual compatibility is essential in your prospective dame's personality department.
Obviously her good looks are a bonus and will count for something, but if her social disposition is unappealing, and you're plainly mismatched early on, you can pretty much count on a future overshadowed by
big disappointment.
Through no fault of her own maybe, a woman's physical beauty is a brilliant seductress..,
A dazzling spectacle guaranteed to blind a fellow's better judgement
and discombobulate his finer senses.

I think you're the best writer on the forum.

 

[I.D WALKER]

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[constrictedvoid]

Just wanted to add in here, I think you guys separate aesthetics and attractiveness from systemic health to an overly large degree. Also, I think you compartmentalize aesthetics too much, which ties into my first point. Many features of aesthetics and attractiveness at some level relate to health, unfortunately, much of it to health early in life. Still, facial edema(which is very common), high body fat levels, lack of muscle mass, poor coordination, poor speech style, poor speech content due to bad neurophysiological function(ability to sense situations and respond in the correct way quickly, lack of humor, etc) all relate to general health. Body fat levels for instance are regulated partly in relation to many environmental inputs, such as circadian rhythm, light exposure, dietary composition, activity level, psychological stress level, etc. All these factors also influence other areas of attractiveness. Androgenetic Alopecia is more complex(based on my limited understanding), the initial trigger may very well relate somewhat to systemic health, but it's tough to stop once it gets going. I think relative to some other aspects of aesthetics, it relates less to general health. Still, there seems to be a connection.

I see some very bitter people in this thread and forum in general, leading me to believe the general health, which does tie into mood quite a bit, is quite low here.

Another point I want to make, you all seem to have a strong attachment to have sex with attractive women. Why is that? Are you chasing the specific neurophysiological state that induces? I have a feeling that this is a compensatory reaction of mood regulating aspects of the nervous system. When my systemic health dips due to bad habits, my mood dips, when my mood dips, I desperately want to f*** attractive females, I suspect this is because it gives the brain some relief. In good systemic states, sex is a bonus, not needed for relief and so much better. Whether this makes evolutionary sense, I don't know, if you have research refuting such a view from that perspective, I'm quite interested to see it.

 

[Dench57]

Another point I want to make, you all seem to have a strong attachment to have sex with attractive women. Why is that?

Fuckin weirdos aren't they! Prefer a hideous whale myself