I Am 18. Ashamed To Leave The House. 1 Year Since I Noticed Severe Balding.

Mighty

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If Trinov is better or not than finastetide, we will have a final answer soon.

Trinov is a hope for few members who aren't scientists or alchemists, hate to mix a bunch of chemicals they know nothing about or don't like finastetide.

I wouldn't wait for a feedback depending on my situation. I would probably just jump on finasteride and wait for this feedback.

The last hope is Tsuji. sh*t will just get real if Tsuji says "Nah... I give up. Gonna watch Netflix" xD 2020 will be THE year, for better or worse.
 

ScaredOfBalding

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Trinov shows to be way less promising than finasteride in clinical trials and yet it can bring u back to nw1 while finasteride cannot? Just don't mind Arrade he is an irrational clown. Better to take a rope than listen to him.
 

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Trinov shows to be way less promising than finasteride in clinical trials and yet it can bring u back to nw1 while finasteride cannot? Just don't mind Arrade he is an irrational clown. Better to take a rope than listen to him.
Yeah all I offer is proper calcium nutrients and balancing your hormones, that;s gotta be so life changing you need to rope yourself before that happens
 

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Yeah all I offer is proper calcium nutrients and balancing your hormones, that;s gotta be so life changing you need to rope yourself before that happens
You are not an an endocrinologist and you probably know jack shiat about proper nutrition so I suggest you just stfu.
 

Arrade

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You are not an an endocrinologist and you probably know jack shiat about proper nutrition so I suggest you just stfu.
I don't need to be an endcrinologist to know that there is a cortisol/prolactin/estrogen range and things get hairy if you go above that...
I can see facts aren't going to help you

Also I know a lot about proper nutrition, like for muscle building a range of 40% protein/ 40% carbs / 20% fat is a good place to start.
VItamin K is needed to shuttle calcium into the bones, otherwise it deposits in the arteries.
Casein protein is a much slower digesting form of protein compared to whey.
I'm here all week if you want to keep whining
 

Arrade

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ha ha his protocol is decalcification :D :D
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/256511

"Some questions concerning baldness which were raised by Dr. Ballenger's comments in The Journal, June 27, may be answered by observations which I made while serving as technician in gross anatomy at the College of Medicine of the University of Illinois (1916-1917). I then had occasion to remove the brains of about 80 cadavers for separate use in the neurology classes and incidentally noted a

seemingly obvious relation between the blood (vessel) supply to the scalp and the quantity of hair. Baldness occurred in persons in whom calcification of the skull bones apparently had not only firmly knitted the cranial sutures but also closed or narrowed various small foramens through which blood vessels pass, most prominently in persons with a luxuriant crop of hair. "
 

Arrade

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You are not an an endocrinologist and you probably know jack shiat about proper nutrition so I suggest you just stfu.
https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2008/11/dangers-of-excess-estrogen-in-the-aging-male/page-01

Compared with healthy age-matched controls, men with coronary atherosclerosis had low testosterone, higher levels of estrone (another potent estrogen), and a low level of testosterone in the presence of a high level of estradiol(1) These findings led the researchers to conclude their study by stating, low levels of total testosterone, testosterone/estradiol ratio and free androgen index and higher levels of estrone in men with coronary artery disease appear together with many features of metabolic syndrome and may be involved in the pathogenesis of coronary atherosclerosis.”

I'm not a hormone specialist but I can quote them, and hear they are saying the calcification of your arteries (atherosclerosis) is caused by low test and high estrogen

1.. Dunajska K, Milewicz A, Szymczak J, et al. Evaluation of sex hormone levels and some metabolic factors in men with coronary atherosclerosis. Aging Male. 2004 Sep;7(3):197-204
 
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I am so confused right now I do not know who to trust so I will explain myself

There is the side that says “I should go on finasteride,minxodil and dermaroller”. I did minoxidil 5% and dermaroller 1.5 mm.
I do not want to mess up my hormones though, I just need my hair while I’m young at least. It is so unnatural for a 18 year old to be bald or semibald.

To the side saying “I should not even use minoxidil”...what should I use then? Should I just accept my fate being bald at the age of 19/20? I do not want that. I will take my chances to save my hair at least for a while.
I am not the kind that jerks off all day and sits in his room without any social contacts.
I go to the gym, I want a good body to compensate for the baldness later.
I meditate, I take care of myself and I am a very friendly, confident and positive person.

Point is, I try to make the best of life as I can.

I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I think the choice is quite obvious. What I am going to tell to do though is not to listen Arrade. They are one of those people who are completely unaware of the level of their own ignorance, and consequently feel incredibly over confident in the tiny amount of knowledge they actually have.

1. Finasteride is the only proven thing to work long term for Androgenetic Alopecia. We can quibble about how effective it is, but it works for most people at least to some degree. The evidence of it messing you up, after 20 years of commercial use, is weak and inconclusive, and the subjective nature of the issue makes it almost impossible to establish truth.

2. Minoxidil has been around for 30 (really close to 40 as it was being prescribed off label) years. In that time none of the side effects people bring up have never been proved or even reported on wide basis. Quite how effective it is (and why) is still not really that well established.

3. Dermarolling is still experimental with very little hard data to say it works. But it looks like it could well be a good addition.

Worst comes to worst we're, in reality, only a few years away from Tsuji being launched, which, in my opinion, is actually better than a cure.
 
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Arrade

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I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I think the choice is quite obvious. What I am going to tell to do though is not to listen Arrade. They are one of those people who are completely unaware of the level of their own ignorance, and consequently feel incredibly over confident in the tiny amount of knowledge they actually have.

1. Finasteride is the only proven thing to work long term for Androgenetic Alopecia. We can quibble about how effective it is, but it works for most people at least to some degree. The evidence of it messing you up, after 20 years of commercial use, is weak and inconclusive, and the subjective nature of the issue makes it almost impossible to establish truth.

2. Minoxidil has been around for 30 (really close to 40 as it was being prescribed off label) years. In that time none of the side effects people bring up have never been proved or even reported on wide basis. Quite how effective it is (and why) is still not really that well established.

3. Dermarolling is still experimental with very little hard data to say it works. But it looks like it could well be a good addition.

Worst comes to worst we're, in reality, only a few years away from Tsuji being launched, which, in my opinion, is actually better than a cure.
If Finasteride is the only proven thing to work, why are you using the experimental, never released to market RU 58441?
 

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Just dropping by to say that i feel sorry for the guy. Mine wasn't that bad until i was 20.
 

Arrade

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Honestly I think I'm getting a perverse satisfaction from men taking finasteride. Like yes... making yourselves weaker. Continue your downward spiral
 
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