I am scared because of post finasteride syndrome…

[ChemHead]

Any citations for that, before you exhort the hordes to destroy books? We really don't know what controls mood vel non and the anti-finasteride people are usually bald and ornery.

There are too many publications to name that demonstrate the importance of 5α-reduced steroids and DHT in mammalian physiology. Are they essential for existing? No, but I guess by that logic, eyes, fingers, a functioning dick, etc. are not essential for existence either. Just because some people can live without something and can tolerate it better than others doesn't mean that it's optimal to physiologically exist that way.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

There are too many publications to name that demonstrate the importance of 5α-reduced steroids and DHT in mammalian physiology. Are they essential for existing? No, but I guess by that logic, eyes, fingers, a functioning dick, etc. are not essential for existence either. Just because some people can live without something and can tolerate it better than others doesn't mean that it's optimal to physiologically exist that way.

I am willing to bet that the less DHT a person has, the better their psychology and saying there are too many publications is passive-aggressive speak for just trust you. I was on finasteride and duta for years and well I still am and I see only positives. Your issue to prove is why something that causes rampant baldness, dandruff, rashes, acne and dermatitis is necessary for good health. I doubt that you can show that. Generally, although I don't know about you, we are dealing with people extremely hostile to reductase inhibitors because they ended up going bald so they try to ruin it for others.

Sex Offenders are invariably men, 98 percent of them and it's clear that T/DHT are involved with fixation and fetishization. There's all but literally nothing that DHT does that is necessary. Castration stops baldness almost always. I never needed v**** or anything and I certainly love the non-T/DHT mindset far, far more. Most people in jail and prison are male especially if you remove people there only for possession of drugs. Aggression, Anger and many unpleasant emotional states are linked to T/DHT as well.

Mammals are irrelevant here for the most part unless you believe that DHT grows scalp hair in humans.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You should throw that in the garbage... Or at least strike through that particular text in the book if there's anything valuable in it lmao. That statement is insanity. It's also the height of foolishness. 5a-reduced steroids, including DHT, in both male and female bodies, are essential to normal and healthy physiological function. Somehow, people (even in scientific and medical professions) have deluded themselves into believing that if a hormone is not present in very significant amounts in serum, it must not be that important.

If you truly want to know how much DHT the body makes, don't measure the concentration of DHT in serum.. measure its metabolites. DHT is not meant to be in serum, which is why it largely isn't. It would be just as foolish to downplay the significance of estrogens in men because of their low serum concentrations relative to endocrine steroids like testosterone. These steroids don't really belong in high concentrations in serum, but don't let that fool you into believing that your body does not make a lot of them. In healthy, optimally functioning bodies, they're meant to be synthesized in specific types of tissue via enzymatic metabolism of endocrine steroids and then metabolized after use before being transported for further metabolism and elimination. If everything is working right, you should barely notice they're there when checking their serum concentrations... because they don't belong there.

Your thesis overlooks the fact that E2 and T are very close chemically and they seem to compete to bind with different receptor sites.

 

[ChemHead]

I am willing to bet that the less DHT a person has, the better their psychology and saying there are too many publications is passive-aggressive speak for just trust you. I was on finasteride and duta for years and well I still am and I see only positives.

I've used 5AR inhibitors on and off for the past decade. I've never felt worse in almost every regard (physically, psychologically and cognitively) than when I was using them. I was never more aggressive (and generally unpleasant as a human being) than when I was using a 5AR inhibitor.

Your issue to prove is why something that causes rampant baldness, dandruff, rashes, acne and dermatitis is necessary for good health. I doubt that you can show that. Generally, although I don't know about you, we are dealing with people extremely hostile to reductase inhibitors because they ended up going bald so they try to ruin it for others.

You're vastly over simplifying the role of DHT in these disorders. If the answer were as simple as DHT = BAD, then 5AR inhibitors would have been the cure all for hair loss and everything else you mentioned above and yet all of these disorders are still very much alive and well. I don't tell people what to do with their bodies. However, it would be foolish for those considering their use to completely ignore the experience of others when considering the risk of using them.. and there is, undoubtedly, a risk. Just because 80% of a population can swallow poison and live doesn't mean the other 20% can.

Your thesis overlooks the fact that E2 and T are very close chemically and they seem to compete to bind with different receptor sites.

I don't know what thesis you're referring to, but testosterone and estradiol are not very close, chemically, at all. They're both steroids and both 17β-ol's with 11-methyl groups and that's the extent of their similarity. Estrogens have aromatic A rings and are conformationally shaped differently and act on completely different receptors because of it. Levo-rotatory and dextro-rotatory enantiomers of amino acids are about as chemically similar as it gets and yet the human body will not function or even really exist unless it is utilizing levo-rotatory amino acids.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I've used 5AR inhibitors on and off for the past decade. I've never felt worse in almost every regard (physically, psychologically and cognitively) than when I was using them. I was never more aggressive (and generally unpleasant as a human being) than when I was using a 5AR inhibitor.


You're vastly over simplifying the role of DHT in these disorders. If the answer were as simple as DHT = BAD, the 5AR inhibitors would have been the cure all for hair loss and everything else you mentioned above and yet all of these disorders are still very much alive and well. I don't tell people what to do with their bodies. However, it would be foolish for those considering their use to completely ignore the experience of others when considering the risk of using them.. and there is, undoubtedly, a risk. Just because 80% of a population can swallow poison and live doesn't mean the other 20% can.



I don't know what thesis you're referring to, but testosterone and estradiol are not very close, chemically, at all. They're both steroids and both 17β-ol's with 11-methyl groups and that's the extent of their similarity. Estrogens have aromatic A rings and are conformationally shaped differently and act on completely different receptors because of it.

You are right about those attributes which again, show that T and DHT are not well defined in what they affect together or singly. Also right that arresting DHT with finasteride appears to do nothing to propel regrowth and nobody understands why, not to mention that in murcine species, DHT regulates all hair growth.

We get into a lot of chicken and egg scenarios here and swallowing poison in any sort of trial or catastrophe so overstates your point. You were doing much better with that last line because I am no chemist. Still she says, it appears to be far from clear how any of the AA's broadly determined as duta, finasteride, bica, spironolactone, provera and CPA interact with receptor sites in terms of blocking others out. I am on estradiol only now, meaning no MtF AA since I quit spironolactone. But spironolactone did something subtly different than just E2 only but it's subtle. These meds probably have some overlap in terms of how they work but provera lowers T in actuality. The other spoof higher estrogen.

MtF's hear about the backdoor pathway but it or the value of allepregnone is it?--seems irrelevant to me in an estradiol or mostly estradiol regulated environment.

 

[ChemHead]

I am on estradiol only now, meaning no MtF AA since I quit spironolactone. But spironolactone did something subtly different than just E2 only but it's subtle.

It's difficult to know exactly what spironolactone is doing because of how many different pathways it affects. It's not just a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist or a mild androgen receptor antagonist, there are like 10 different pathways spironolactone affects... 17α-hydroxylase, 17,20-lyase, 5α-reductase, 3β-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, 11β-hydroxylase, 21-hydroxylase, etc. The only real way to find out what spironolactone does is to test each various pathway with a very selective ligand and compare how you're affected by each to how you're affected by spironolactone.

The easiest place to start is to use another mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist like eplerenone and either confirm or eliminate the mineralocorticoid receptor as a target that positively affects hair growth/loss and then move onto other pathways and do the same.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

It's difficult to know exactly what spironolactone is doing because of how many different pathways it affects. It's not just a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist or a mild androgen receptor antagonist, there are like 10 different pathways spironolactone affects... 17α-hydroxylase, 17,20-lyase, 5α-reductase, 3β-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, 11β-hydroxylase, 21-hydroxylase, etc. The only real way to find out what spironolactone does is to test each various pathway with a very selective ligand and compare how you're affected by each to how you're affected by spironolactone.

The easiest place to start is to use another mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist like eplerenone and either confirm or eliminate the mineralocorticoid receptor as a target that positively affects hair growth/loss and then move onto other pathways and do the same.

There's a tension in having multiple meds in our protocol and "testing" things like oral minoxidil out. Things are going really, really well for me so I am more so in it for the hair than the science since everything started to work when I upped E2 and added microneedling and then 12.5mg twice daily of drunken topical min and then things were really supercharged.

 

[Baeyer]

Ah yes, another thread being derailed by Janey. Goddess bless.

- Baeyer

 

[Micky_007]

The amount of times Janey Elizabeth posts her pictures and writes essays that are often nonsensical should be a violation on this website.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

The amount of times Janey Elizabeth posts her pictures and rights essays that are often nonsensical should be a violation on this website.

Still waiting for you or anyone else to post pics and if you look, the pics are virtually all on a thread that I manage or on the Bridge thread where he did the same thing and nonsensical is all of the suicidal woe is me sort of posts that go on and on to no good end. My essays at least have some thought put into them. The only other ones who post pics are the "guess if I am going bald" crowd. Let's see yours and I will see if it is hopeless or not. There are often questions about microneedling or sheds so yes I post pics to show my experience but I have hair and a life more and more so now so maybe you can take over and answer all of the guys without responses like Dr. House and I often do when we are on. I answer every single DM I get on here and there are scores and scores of them plus people on Reddit.

Guys who go bald are assholes so I get that and since I have hair, I can be magnanimous about it. Except for experimental meds which are heavens, anti-androgenic, so I wouldn't touch those, I am 36 years into baldness/recovery/restoration so yes, I might be a bit giddy with the possibilities of helping people. I wouldn't wish baldness on anyone.

And so, yes, always,
Goddess Bless
Janey

 

[Baeyer]

You wouldn't be so angry if you got a cuter wig than that or tried something that actually worked for hair loss. If you look above, my postings were directly related to the initial question and I went head to head with a couple of pretty smart guys.

Nobody derailed this except you since your comment related to finasteride fit right in there but instead you decided to pitch an insult. I have no idea even who you are. I try to answer every single unanswered question if I am on during non-peak hours.

I have used finasteride/duta for 25 years now and the last six, both together. Pretty much anything that works, even remotely, I have tried and I often have before and after pictures, say related to periods where I used topical estrogen, cataloged and indexed. For six years straight I have taken pics of all aspects, different lighting and head angles including weight gain or breast growth when someone asks. One MtF DM'ed me for crown pics. Her goal was to have a filled in crown and I have that, so she got many pics from me and linked to others.

Janey

Don’t insult my wig, please.

Bless be to the goddess. E2 for life.

Baeyer

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Don’t insult my wig, please.

Bless be to the goddess. E2 for life.

Baeyer

It was a bit catty of me but you see, my feelings get hurt pretty easily. I consider this to be partially volunteer work that I found during the isolation of Covid and the essays as someone mentioned often have to do with how disorienting MtF HRT might be. I still don't know exactly if I am only in this for the hair or not. But even then, my quest is also using estradiol for youth and my book title is "Using Estrogen to restore hair and beauty and other fun party tricks". I am dabbling heavy in retin-A and topical solutions and oral min and microneedling even though I don't mix anything. That's Maggie's job, down in the basement, mixing up the medicine. I'm on the pavement talking about other sh*t, meaning DM'ing with a French person in French about his possibilities. All this talent and no way to monetize myself....

Janey

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Don’t insult my wig, please.

Bless be to the goddess. E2 for life.

Baeyer

I always delete comments if I deem them unhelpful or if anyone asks really so my comment above is going poof.

Best,
Janey

 

[Diffused_confidence]

Woah, there is a new treatment coming 2023?

DO NOT rely on future treatments possibly coming. Odds are these treatments will fizzle out. Breezulas data showed it did jack sh*t guarantee you it fails phase 3. You need to take a chance and use finasteride if you want any hope of saving your hair.

Worried about pfs? Read this 1992 article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-crimes/34bf63ee-840c-41e4-9c5f-5ac1bcf95b15/

Men who are castrated often are still able to have an erection and may be capable of intercourse. Their sex drive is diminished because the testicles are no longer present to produce testosterone. But the drive is not eliminated.

So people with barely any testosterone can have erections but people with 30% of their dht can't at all?

You know what does cause ED? Depression. Baldness will cause depression and worst of all most women will never be interested in you. ED means nothing when you can't even present yourself as a suitable mate because you look like a mutant.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

DO NOT rely on future treatments possibly coming. Odds are these treatments will fizzle out. Breezulas data showed it did jack sh*t guarantee you it fails phase 3. You need to take a chance and use finasteride if you want any hope of saving your hair.

Worried about pfs? Read this 1992 article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-crimes/34bf63ee-840c-41e4-9c5f-5ac1bcf95b15/

Men who are castrated often are still able to have an erection and may be capable of intercourse. Their sex drive is diminished because the testicles are no longer present to produce testosterone. But the drive is not eliminated.

So people with barely any testosterone can have erections but people with 30% of their dht can't at all?

You know what does cause ED? Depression. Baldness will cause depression and worst of all most women will never be interested in you. ED means nothing when you can't even present yourself as a suitable mate because you look like a mutant.

The orgasms in a female chemical context are waaay better if you can achieve them and no, unlike most sissies, I haven't trained myself to enjoy orgasms in the wrong hole so to speak but trannies are taking over for all of the gay bottoms formerly found in the world and then you are left with Stud tops who will hit anything with a bouncy rear end and the sissies who love, such generous, always generous men. It's very strange for those of us who grew up relating to dykes and tops and lipstick femmes to be able to actually look like someone worth taking a go at but I am strictly chickly through all of this so hair is hair as coverage but long tresses approximate actual white chicks and there was a movie called that, I think, about undercover cross-dressers or was it trannies? I get so confused because male police officers are almost always tops like Sandra Bullock was in Miss Congeniality was in pics one and two. Why not Miss Congeniality four? Because people in Hollywood refuse to understand that trannies purchase huge numbers of movie tickets....and all of us just love musicals like My Fair Lady but especially Caberet with a female top in Miss Garland Jr. so to speak and the unsual gay guy who directs, Joel somebody as I recall but I was mostly looking at Liza. I admit it now and Janey's a diva and it's her only fault but divas are divas and there's no cure for that, not even therapy now for six long years twice a week even and I mostly do therapy so I can copy my extremely cute therapist. She says I am her favorite but she cancelled on me tomorrow so I have to wait till Thursday for my first non-Zoom therapy since Janey put on the wig....

 

[Micky_007]

Still waiting for you or anyone else to post pics and if you look, the pics are virtually all on a thread that I manage or on the Bridge thread where he did the same thing and nonsensical is all of the suicidal woe is me sort of posts that go on and on to no good end. My essays at least have some thought put into them. The only other ones who post pics are the "guess if I am going bald" crowd. Let's see yours and I will see if it is hopeless or not. There are often questions about microneedling or sheds so yes I post pics to show my experience but I have hair and a life more and more so now so maybe you can take over and answer all of the guys without responses like Dr. House and I often do when we are on. I answer every single DM I get on here and there are scores and scores of them plus people on Reddit.

Guys who go bald are assholes so I get that and since I have hair, I can be magnanimous about it. Except for experimental meds which are heavens, anti-androgenic, so I wouldn't touch those, I am 36 years into baldness/recovery/restoration so yes, I might be a bit giddy with the possibilities of helping people. I wouldn't wish baldness on anyone.

And so, yes, always,
Goddess Bless
Janey

I'm currently on a holiday hence my delayed response to this, but I have pics of my hair. You can DM me and I will send it to you.

However, the reason I haven't posted pictures of my hair is simply because I am no longer on any hair treatment since I find the current treatments to be ineffective. So there's no need for me to post pictures here when I'm not on any regimen. The best I can hope for is maintenance with slight deterioration which is realistic for being on no treatment.

I'm a NW2, with a decent head of hair now (as you probably remember, Finasteride messed it up royally, almost was like a NW2.5/3 but my hair recovered gradually after a about 1 year of stopping Finasteride back to a NW2).

It's usually not possible to tell I have hairloss from pictures or irl but I did have some receding of my hairline, hence I too want a cure to prevent any further possible deterioration.

I'll most probably only start a treatment again once Kintors Pyrilutamide becomes available.

I may decide to throw in Minoxidil in a few months along with microneedling just to do something while I wait.

I have used both Finasteride and Minoxidil in the past for 2 years and 1 year respectively, which didn't give any results. Minoxidil hairs were velus and weren't cosmetically significant.

Okay holdup. Did you just try to compare yourself to Dr House? Lol....

Advice from you mainly always drifts to MtF, using estrogen, drinking Minoxidil from the bottle, saying Finasteride sides and PFS isn't real but you seem to be having some sides from it because your messages are often just crazy in drifting from the topic and going in all different directions, and not in a good weird like Dr House.

Also, you mentioned yourself some of the advice you've been giving people caused them more problems.

Anyway, I'm not here to hate on you, we're mainly trying to help you to keep your messages succint and not always get to going into essays. I've seen several people also comment on some of your messages even just recently on other threads asking what is up.

Also, I do assist people on this forum and via DM.

Anyway, I wish you all the best and a great head of hair despite everything.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I'm currently on a holiday hence my delayed response to this, but I have pics of my hair. You can DM me and I will send it to you.

However, the reason I haven't posted pictures of my hair is simply because I am no longer on any hair treatment since I find the current treatments to be ineffective. So there's no need for me to post pictures here when I'm not on any regimen. The best I can hope for is maintenance with slight deterioration which is realistic for being on no treatment.

I'm a NW2, with a decent head of hair now (as you probably remember, Finasteride messed it up royally, almost was like a NW2.5/3 but my hair recovered gradually after a about 1 year of stopping Finasteride back to a NW2).

It's usually not possible to tell I have hairloss from pictures or irl but I did have some receding of my hairline, hence I too want a cure to prevent any further possible deterioration.

I'll most probably only start a treatment again once Kintors Pyrilutamide becomes available.

I may decide to throw in Minoxidil in a few months along with microneedling just to do something while I wait.

I have used both Finasteride and Minoxidil in the past for 2 years and 1 year respectively, which didn't give any results. Minoxidil hairs were velus and weren't cosmetically significant.

Okay holdup. Did you just try to compare yourself to Dr House? Lol....

Advice from you mainly always drifts to MtF, using estrogen, drinking Minoxidil from the bottle, saying Finasteride sides and PFS isn't real but you seem to be having some sides from it because your messages are often just crazy in drifting from the topic and going in all different directions, and not in a good weird like Dr House.

Also, you mentioned yourself some of the advice you've been giving people caused them more problems.

Anyway, I'm not here to hate on you, we're mainly trying to help you to keep your messages succint and not always get to going into essays. I've seen several people also comment on some of your messages even just recently on other threads asking what is up.

Also, I do assist people on this forum and via DM.

Anyway, I wish you all the best and a great head of hair despite everything.

I haven't had anyone say that my advice hurt them. What I meant by that is that I am paternal/maternal and many men don't deserve hair and they can't handle hair cause they would go right back to being assholes with perfect hair. I became a better person after hair loss but I don't recommend it as some sort of life protocol but vulnerability makes us human, not perfect boy band hair or hair helmets which are the opposite of vulnerability. Systems guys, please go for modest and not for anything that looks not real because leaving some baldness is much more honest and real and people will admire you for your tasteful hair not make fun of you with Ted Koppel and Alfred E. Neumann jokes.

I was not trying to attack you but it hurts my feelings when you guys say that and also because eh, should I or anyone be giving advice if having no success or not even being on meds. I have used every single thing that I tout and I am open about what I liked and didn't like. I agree that I am on here way too much and I often wake up to check my messages. If I have been on for say 36 hours or even 24 hours, sleep deprivation can set in and sleep deprivation has deleterious effects on virtually all aspects of life. I rarely if ever type while drunk but I do have regrets at times and I delete every single message where I have been unfair or catty and I usually apologize and end up being friendly with that person.

I cannot deny that I don't know where Janey ends and the Janey shtick begins. I try to formulate creative answers that often have puns or baldness references from movies or literature. If I can't reference certain hair lines as being common, I can mentally yank a similar hair line generally among movie actors and rock stars. Baldness overnight? James Taylor. Strange convergence of triangular side burn growth: Nicholson, Slater and Pacino. One bald and the other two holding up nicely. Sting is the perfect hair transplant candidate so I point to his hair pattern for that and also for the notion that slight to moderate balding in the temples can actually make some people more attractive and Sting's rare because he could grow his hair long without any diminution in its looking nice.

I try to steer people away from any treatment that is less likely to work than the Big 3. I do tend to be disdainful of people who contend that using finasteride once either made them bald or impotent permanently. Cause wow! Estrogen doesn't do that and I have never felt any of the things that guys claim some of them. I do think perversely that people who are mad about finasteride come on here to make sure that no one else uses it and I sort of get that. Wearing a piece or a wig or getting transplants are not the same hair experience and I disapprove generally of guys' choices since they claim not to want anyone to know that they are bald underneath and yet, nobody has hair helmets like some of these poor guys. It's never wise to try to look 18 if wearing a piece. Why no longer hair styles? It probably is more costly to maintain I surmise.

So you are far less culpable than many but I find that a picture is worth a thousand words. People don't have to believe me verbally but it's hard to disagree with hundreds if not thousands of pictures. Also, nobody has had a life immersed in hair like I have. Bad transplant? I've got pics. Improvement followed by rapid reversal? I sort of have pics like that. Massive shed? Yep. I have that with three gory pics. Bloody microneedling. Yep. Pics. Bald before my father? Yes and he still has more hair than I do but mine at least looks decent long and his never has since it has wave to it. How to return to work after a transplant? Well that's not a pic that I have but I have that experience and it's not fun. finasteride/Duta pics? Yep. All stages of HRT hair? Yep and nobody else compares to what I am doing, not even Bridge. I had a premonition to take this route and it did involve seeing the divinity as Goddess. Somehow believing in god is okay even with atheists but believing in Goddess? That pisses some people off and more reflective people get my point about believing the universe is no longer against you. Every single MtF and Hair treatment of mine has been a huge (mess) success but I wrote mess so eh I must still be tired. I joke but I do have mirrors and I know all of my aspects that I can improve. Retin-A pics and feedback? Yep. My main issue is that all of my treatments can and are known to work spectacularly by themselves but I have a stack of a handful of things and I don't know exactly what does what. So I sacrifice my science for actual hair.

Constant referencing of what looks male and what looks female? Pretty much a focus as is grooming and cosmetics for everybody. Does makeup create a female look? Absolutely and often a stunning one. For guys, you want subtlety. Just concealer and a little sunscreen, moisturizer and foundation to blend it all together and depending on the time of day, powder. White shirts are always a problem for makeup wearers, male, female and other.

I spend time with many young people to find MtF and hair meds that make them hopefully no longer suicidal. Some guys need hand holding for weeks because they are so paralyzed and afraid by all of the hype against male meds. And how can I be distracting the young men of America if they are actually women, at least partially. I coined the term, "Just in it for the Hair" for "straight" guys who want to follow more so the approach of Bridge so they can do so without claiming to be an MtF. That has a huge impact on the psychology. Plus, if finasteride is feminizing and estrogen at least doesn't interrupt with potency for an entire life, maybe estrogen is a better route. How about guys ever seeing any success? I only saw new hair after I implemented my stack which is the perfect size in terms of manageability and keeping anything said to be "good for hair" out of my stack. There's little to synergism with stacks of 25 things, except lots of mixing in the basement to come up with something likely to be working at cross purposes with itself. Why don't the so-called incels on here realize that 20-med stacks are useless?

I aim to get more sleep since I have at least slept some the last two nights. I am also fasting on soda and a can of tunafish once a day and this might have effects. Plus no one's shtick is perfect and many of us have them like Mr. Booker and Butterbean, who's a really nice guy in fact. One guy wrote a long semi-impassioned defense of me compared to the "experimental guys" and my having a big influence in knocking down myths and shibboleths in the baldness community, especially with respect to relatives having anything to provide to the baldness treatment plan. Bayes theory tells me that all of that is a waste of time especially since tick tick tick is not a good protocol. Waiting nine months might be game over.

I have rare gifts and yes, I can be too much to take at times because I am a know it all who actually is a read it all more so. I can compose and type like lightning and since I have answered all of the questions about MtF's and hair on reddit and here, I have facility in recalling what's pertinent. Yes, it would be more effective if succinct but in exchange for whatever insight I have, I get to practice being Janey and I have outed Will. Illeism is a burden and a gift because I can instantly categorize things with Will and things post-Will but he's always there and has all of the hurt from being crushed by life that the rest of you have. But I achieved two amazing things. I made it from 20 to 48 with minimal research needed because my meds maintained only so maintenance/finasteride is and will always be along with duta, the most important male med and still essential for MtF's in general but especially if they go off hormones. And maybe two other things. I am visual proof the full recovery from sheds to baldness are possible and I am visual proof that age doesn't necessarily matter for nice/great hair. Many guys would have gray unruly hair coming in but estrogen makes you younger, swear to Goddess.

Goddess Bless,
Janey

 

[Jeju]

There's a tension in having multiple meds in our protocol and "testing" things like oral minoxidil out. Things are going really, really well for me so I am more so in it for the hair than the science since everything started to work when I upped E2 and added microneedling and then 12.5mg twice daily of drunken topical min and then things were really supercharged.

You forgot to post the picture of you when you were a little boy.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You forgot to post the picture of you when you were a little boy.

 

[Jeju]

That coach explains a lot