I discovered how to beat hair loss - embrace it!

[Smooth]

Change your perspective, change your life!

Changing your perspectives is easy, but it wont change your life, people will still give you the looks, youll still have a hard time getting a gook looking girl with you (especially if your in your early-mid twenties!)
i call people like you, Nichiyoubi, living in denial... i know how i was with hair, i had it once (if i never ha hair maybe it wouldnt bother me that much now), its not like i lost my hair and thought "everything is crap".. its a process, start you really dont give a damn, but when you notice that people around you treat you differently then it really sinks in... we are social creatures and we need conformation from our surrounding, hair loss takes that, the younger you are the more likely people will avoid hanging with you (not just girls!!) its not "in our head"... its pretty much a brutal reality we have to deal with daily.
someone said it better : "if its not such a big deal then the hair products treatments wouldnt be a multi billion industry"

 

[Nichiyoubi]

Change your perspective, change your life!

Changing your perspectives is easy, but it wont change your life, people will still give you the looks, youll still have a hard time getting a gook looking girl with you (especially if your in your early-mid twenties!)
i call people like you, Nichiyoubi, living in denial... i know how i was with hair, i had it once (if i never ha hair maybe it wouldnt bother me that much now), its not like i lost my hair and thought "everything is crap".. its a process, start you really dont give a damn, but when you notice that people around you treat you differently then it really sinks in... we are social creatures and we need conformation from our surrounding, hair loss takes that, the younger you are the more likely people will avoid hanging with you (not just girls!!) its not "in our head"... its pretty much a brutal reality we have to deal with daily.
someone said it better : "if its not such a big deal then the hair products treatments wouldnt be a multi billion industry"

Smooth, you are way wrong bro. How can you possibly say I'm in denial when I have cut all but 1 mm of hair off my head and announced to the world I couldn't give a shyte about going bald! The only reason I don't cut it shorter is because going from 1 mm to zero requires a bit more effort. And that's the only reason. So don't tell me I'm in denial bro.

Changing your perspective WILL change your life. Try it and see.

"...people will still give you the looks..." Oh really? What people? If you think people are giving you "looks" because of your hair loss you are being paranoid.

As far as getting good looking women is concerned, I scored more after I decided to stop hiding than before. Once I cut the crap my confidence came back and I had women fighting over me. Confidence comes from within, not from the outside. If you don't understand that then we are going to have to have a lot more conversations my friend.

I really want to help you and others understand the simple truth. No one really cares about your hair loss except you. If you can come to grips with that you will be well on your way.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

The cure to hair loss is acceptance, and I would argue, embracing it. It is who you are. Why try to hide that???

To me, one of the greatest feelings on earth is feeling of the #1 gliding across my scalp getting rid of those insecurities. After I do that I totally forget about hair loss because it's a non-issue.

Hmm...So each day, as soon as you shave your head you are ''cured from hairloss'' and free from all insecurities? How is this different than taking meds? You still have to do it each day to feel secure.

OK, I'm doin' it! Only reason I have not is because it seems like a lot of work. With the #1 you only need to cut about once every 2 - 3 weeks. But shaving requires a more regular routine, say ever two or three days.

I found this device called HeadBlade and ordered it on Amazon. Will get in a few days and give it a whirl. If you want to try, check this link which talks about it:

http://www.brotherhoodofbaldpeople.com/ ... 5&blogId=1

Are you satisfied now Finfighter? If you think 1 mm of hair is somehow being in denial then I'm willing to go all the way to prove you and others wrong. What have I got to lose!!!

By the way I see you just revised your post so now I have to answer your new challenge. I do not cut my hair every day. I cut it every 2 - 3 wks. That is the same regimen as most people with regard to hair care. Why do you think that is somehow hiding?

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

I'm with you, uncomfortable man.

If all these hair treatments actually worked there would be no need for forums like this one. The fact is that these treatments do not achieve what they advertise: the cure to your insecurities about going bald.

Change your perspective, change your life!

Well, to elaborate; these companies that promote 'treatments', pray on the insecurity of male pattern baldness sufferers. Only a very small percentage of male pattern baldness men actually use treatments. I think the rest pretty much realize that its all pretty futile to say the least.

I think we all fundementally know that Nichiyoubi's attitude is the postive/constructive attutide that we all need to foster. Its refreshing to hear this from a guy who has shaved all his hair down as well. Whether we are good looking, or bad looking, we all have to accept hairloss if we want to be happy with who we are - if we want to reach some type of acceptance so we can live life without so much torment.

As in the words of my favorite Buddhist monk - 'you suffer because you dont accept what has to be accepted.'

And furthermore, 'You should reach the point where you are happy to be born human.'

I watched something a few days ago about ex soldiers who were all amputees, after having limbs blown off in combat. They were on an expidition to climb everest base camp. It was pretty inspiring to say the least. Their positive 'get up and go' outlook was really first class and great to see. Here we are all moping on this forum when there are so many people that have an amazing outlook in the face of adversity. Seeing them all have a laugh and poke fun at each other climbing a mountain was really enlightening.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

Hope4hairRedux, brilliant post! You got to the root of the issue, which is basically a question of philosophy.

You guys want to know another secret to improving you looks? This one takes no time at all, costs nothing, and works 100% of the time.

SMILE MORE!

Yes, it is that simple.

Instead of focusing on your head, put a smile on your face and go out and face the world. The effect on other people will be 100 times more powerful than an attempted hairline fix.

Why do this? Simple:

1. Smiling Makes Us Attractive
2. Smiling Changes Our Mood
3. Smiling Is Contagious
4. Smiling Relieves Stress
5. Smiling Boosts Your Immune System
6. Smiling Lowers Your Blood Pressure
7. Smiling Releases Endorphins, Natural Pain Killers and Serotonin
8. Smiling Lifts the Face and Makes You Look Younger
9. Smiling Makes You Seem Successful
10. Smiling Helps You Stay Positive

source: http://longevity.about.com/od/lifelongb ... miling.htm

So that's basically my regimen. Cut my hair as short as I possibly can and smile as much as I possibly can. It costs me nothing and it's workin' great!

 

[GeminiX]

Loving this thread Nichiyoubi, so refreshing to see another positive poster on here.

Almost makes me want to be a regular poster again

 

[DoctorHouse]

I think the most important thing to remember is most of the posters on here have so many other issues that they don't like about themselves. Hair loss may just be icing on the cake. I read countless posts on here and its not just hair loss that needs to be embraced or as Cassin said needs to be accepted. Most people on here just use hair loss as an excuse as why they are miserable. Life is all about survival. Everyday you will be thrown a new curve that could mess you up for a day or for some maybe a lifetime. Nichi has accepted his hairloss now but who is to say he can accept some other negative changes that will come with the aging processes. I see people of all ages everyday and they have one thing in common. They like to complain about themselves. Its human nature. For this reason alone, its nice that we have a forum for this. In this case, its about hair loss. And this forum will always give support for those who cannot help themselves. I think by now most people know the big 3 and a hair transplant is pretty much all you can do now to save your hair or at least salvage what you have. Yet the same people including myself come back here over and over again knowing already what can be done about saving one's hair. People like to come on here to vent about hair loss but in reality they are just not happy. You think finding a beautiful girl and marrying her means happiness for the the rest of your life. If that is the case, why are divorce rates rising faster than ever. Nichi, you have not beat hair loss, you just don't allow it to control your life. You have not embraced it. I don't think you look in the mirror everyday and say, Oh I am so happy I lost all my hair. You just don't let it control you. However, with time, you will find something else you don't like about yourself and soon you will have to embrace that too. And when your adoring wife or kids if you have any makes a comment about some aspect of your looks that is changing, you will have to learn to embrace it too. However, if you are like most of the posters on here, any little negative change that takes place will just be another excuse to why alot of people on here are miserable. Its nice that we have positive people like Nichi making an attempt to help us, but in reality its just human nature to complain. The most important thing to remember is its perfectly natural to complain but its not perfectly natural to let your complaints make excuses of why your life is a total failure. I live with OCD/BDD everyday and I think this condition is more common then is documented. I doing alot of complaining in my life and I have my ups and downs. However, I have learned its people like saf, Cassin, and Gemini, that can make your life more positive. Its who you surround yourself with that can help deal with life's curves. You surround yourself with negative people, you will be negative. However, if you surround yourself with positive people, you will find hair loss will be much easier to accept. If you surround yourself amongst people who do not care about hair loss, you will be able to accept it much better. However, misery does like company so thank goodness for forums like this. unk:

 

[GeminiX]

@DoctorHouse - I really wish phpbb had a "like" button

 

[DoctorHouse]

Gemini, thanks for your kindness. You can still post here on a "regular" basis. As my post pointed out, only direct your posts to the positive ones. Don't waste your breath( typing skills) on the negative ones.

 

[s.a.f]

s.a.f.: I'm sorry but you missed my point completely.... And the quote about hair loss being like losing your nose makes me laugh. How many people do you know or have you seen who have lost their noses? I know of only one, Beck Weathers who lost it due to extreme frostbite on Mt. Everest after being left for dead during a horrendous storm at 26,000 feet. How many people have you seen with hair loss? Like hundreds of thousands. In fact it's so common that people ought to simply accept it and move on.

And you missed my point completely, I did'nt mean that baldness was as bad as losing your nose. I meant that it was as obvious and disfiguring to your appearance.
Sure we're used to seeing lots of bald heads and not used to seeing people without noses but imagine if it was the other way around and an alternative world where everyone had hair but the unlucky minority lost their noses. The point is wether its hair or noses or whatever we are that unlucky minority, and we have a right to be unhappy about it and yes it does matter.
We stand out from the majority in a negative way.

When it comes to physical appearance hair is the one thing that humans devote the most time, money and effort to.
Infact I have to wonder just how far would the average person go in order to keep their hair what would they be willing to pay for a fullproof cure $10,000, $20,000? I'd bet that nearly everyguy on here would be willing to sacrifice his car, his savings or his current job before he'd willingly sacrifice his hair. And I'd be willing to bet that you would too.
Hairloss may be common but dont think that the majority dont count their blessings that they're not afflicted with this condition, and view it with the same sense of dread that they would view weighing 300lbs.

 

[s.a.f]

There was actually a poll conducted which asked men if they would rather lose a finger or their hair, the overwhelimg majority of the polled men claimed that they would rather lose their finger....Crazy isn't it? However it is a reflection of the cultural significance of hair.

Thats nothing one poll asked bald men if they'd give up 10 yrs from the end of their life in order to have never lost their hair and the the uptake for that idea was 90+%.
Dont be in any doubt there are many old men who never show it but have lived for decades loathing their bald heads and the unfairness of the whole situation. And lets face it a finger or no hair? which one is the most noticibly obvious.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

Infact I have to wonder just how far would the average person go in order to keep their hair what would they be willing to pay for a fullproof cure $10,000, $20,000? I'd bet that nearly everyguy on here would be willing to sacrifice his car, his savings or his current job before he'd willingly sacrifice his hair. And I'd be willing to bet that you would too.
Hairloss may be common but dont think that the majority dont count their blessings that they're not afflicted with this condition, and view it with the same sense of dread that they would view weighing 300lbs.

There was actually a poll conducted which asked men if they would rather lose a finger or their hair, the overwhelimg majority of the polled men claimed that they would rather lose their finger....Crazy isn't it? However it is a reflection of the cultural significance of hair.

finasteride, please point me to that article when you have a chance. I want to read it.

I have a close friend who lost his index finger in an accident quite a few years ago. He also happens to be bald. If I were to ask him "hey, if you had the choice of getting back your finger or your hair what would you choose?" do you honestly think he would say "my hair in a heartbeat!"

They should take a statistical sampling of tool and die makers who have unfortunately lost their fingers, and have also lost their hair. Then ask them the same question I posed above. Do you really think they are going to say "Bro I want my hair back. I really didn't need all ten fingers!"

Man if your hair means more to you than your fingers then I'm all for you getting on meds, undergoing transplants, and taking any other medication that might help you cope. But there aren't many guys like that. Let's be honest.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

...We stand out from the majority in a negative way.

When it comes to physical appearance hair is the one thing that humans devote the most time, money and effort to. Infact I have to wonder just how far would the average person go in order to keep their hair what would they be willing to pay for a fullproof cure $10,000, $20,000? I'd bet that nearly everyguy on here would be willing to sacrifice his car, his savings or his current job before he'd willingly sacrifice his hair. And I'd be willing to bet that you would too.
Hairloss may be common but dont think that the majority dont count their blessings that they're not afflicted with this condition, and view it with the same sense of dread that they would view weighing 300lbs.

s.a.f. it's a good thing I am not a gambling man because you would be out some money bro. I am not only comfortable being bald, I've actually come to like it!

Here's why: No more wasting time and money with hair stylists. No more expense on hair products. No more having to fix my hair after waking up in the morning, after taking a shower, after riding a bike, after going swimming, etc. I'm never going to have to dye my hair to prevent it going gray - another big emotional hurdle men face that I will not have to. And the coup de grace: I will never have to worry about going bald! EVER!

To me that is priceless. If they came out with a pill that caused all your hair to grow back and cost only a dollar I would not take it. A lot of people would, and that's fine. It will only make my style choice even more unique, and even more "me".

I'm sure you are going to call me a liar, but it's the honest truth. You cannot understand my thinking, just like I sometimes cannot understand yours.

I respect you s.a.f. and I respect you Finfighter. But I respectfully disagree with your premise that "baldness sucks". It doesn't. We do not stand out from other men in a negative way. That is the inner critic talking, not reality.

Worrying about baldness is what sucks dudes. And you can do something about that. Change your outlook.

 

[Boondock]

As much as I'm not the most self-conscious guy on this site, I'd definitely trade one of my pinkie fingers for a guaranteed NW1 for life.

 

[BrightonBaldy]

it does suck, it really does, just seen myself tagged in about 2 dozen facebook photos and i look f*****g terrible in every one apart form the ones outside in the snow with a hat on.

nothings changed in the past 2-3 years apart from my hair falling out, blame society or whoever, sadly none of us can change the fact that hair makes people look better, in some cases 100x better.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

Man if your hair means more to you than your fingers then I'm all for you getting on meds, undergoing transplants, and taking any other medication that might help you cope. But there aren't many guys like that. Let's be honest.

I don't remember the exact source of that article, ask SAF he mentioned the poll that he posted above, maybe he knows of that source. And I never said that I felt the same way about my fingers. That's an assumption that you made.

Finfighter, that comment was not aimed at you personally. It was aimed at these supposed bald finger-agnostic gentlemen in the study that was mentioned. I apologize if I offended you.

So is it safe for me to assume that, similar to me, you'd prefer to have all your fingers than your hair? It would be an interesting topic - how much does having hair mean to you (not you finasteride, you as in the masses). This would bring a high degree of clarity on where each of us stands. Once upon a time I cared a lot about it and would have given something to keep my hair. But I'd have to really think about what I would have given. Certainly not my fingers. Maybe a little piece of my little toe? Nah, I don't think so.

Anyway, I have no interest in growing back my hair. The hair loss is working for me in a really good way. I admit it might not work for every single person, but I'm sure there are others out there who would find true happiness in letting it go.

 

[Nichiyoubi]

As much as I'm not the most self-conscious guy on this site, I'd definitely trade one of my pinkie fingers for a guaranteed NW1 for life.

Wow! That's saying something Boondock. I've learned something today.

 

[BrightonBaldy]

Add me to the finger camp, where do I sign?

 

[Nashville Hairline]

Team: all of my fingers please.

A bald man can play guitar better than an 8-fingered man (apart from Django Rheinhart)

 

[Smooth]

Add me to the finger camp, where do I sign?

:agree: wheres the papper? (ill even add another finger if you promise my nose wont fall off too :dunno: )