If full Head of Hair can't make all Tom Cruise,why expect bald to be Vin Diesel.

[CaptainForehead]

That's pretty ****ed up. But guys after a while forget how to just go from memory or imagination, when it's all put out in front of you on a screen, bent over and begging for more, your sense of reality and intimacy gets all ****ed up.

p**rn is just a visual medium for imagination. Literature also serves the same purpose. Women choose to indulge their fantasies through the written medium, there exists a "rape fantasy" genre.
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/rape-fantasy

The next step in your argument should be claiming that all fiction books, video games, and tv distort our sense of reality (why restrict your argument to the sexual domain?).

 

[recedingyt]

@h.l.

You're clearly either very inexperienced or very sheltered sexually. Doesn't matter. Point is you have no idea what you're talking about if you think a BDSM relationship is anything like you describe.

p**rn is just a visual medium for imagination. Literature also serves the same purpose. Women choose to indulge their fantasies through the written medium, there exists a "rape fantasy" genre.
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/rape-fantasy

The next step in your argument should be claiming that all fiction books, video games, and tv distort our sense of reality (why restrict your argument to the sexual domain?).

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You're into pegging now?

Don't knock it til you try it you'll never have a more powerful O!

 

[Exodus2011]

are you going to fully turn into a girl recedingyt?

like get a vagina and everything?

i've honestly thought of it just to get to be with attractive girls lol, as i'm sure i could be one

i have scrawny beta genetics which would do better in a girls body

i've been feeling pretty ****ty about hair and stuff recently, kinda been feeling dead. today i literally slept all daytime away. i don't see a point in trying at life. i had a dream recently about the hair days, goddamn its been so long since i've felt confident. it was such a nostalgic dream, it actually gave me some hope. maybe there will be a cure, idc if its unrealistic, i need something to hang on to

i don't think i can go out and get a decent enough job to afford hair transplants, i already had social anxiety even before baldness meh.

 

[CaptainForehead]

i have scrawny beta genetics which would do better in a girls body

The same with me. Actually, I would do better than you as a girl given my girly voice.
The only problem is that i would never be able to fool a psychiatrist that I believe I am a girl.

kinda been feeling dead.
today i literally slept all daytime away. i don't see a point in trying at life.

Yes, I'm there too. The only reason I get up during the weekdays is so that I don't get fired. My parents dont support me and I don't have any safety net.

I have often slept 15-17 hours straight.

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Don't knock it til you try it you'll never have a more powerful O!

I haven't had an O in like 1.5 years. O's are overrated.

 

[recedingyt]

I think we've talked about this at length in PM but I suppose I will post my thoughts on this here too.

Idk about surgery. I do experience genital dysphoria and would much prefer to have the surgery done, but at the same time I'm not sure if I could handle the recovery and all the dilating. It seems horrible. I'd basically have to take at least 3 months off just to recover and get used to dilating and then until I'm at a year post op dilating would be a major nuisance. I think after that I can just dilate once a week or if I'm having sex with a guy regularly I wouldn't even need to dilate.

Right now my penis does **** with my head a bit but I'm way more concerned about getting other surgery first (facial feminization & maybe a minor hair transplant). If I can pass and blend into society as a woman I'm fine with living as a woman with a penis since no one would be able to tell unless they're having sex with me. In some ways I even think it would be neat and would definitely set me apart from other people.

If your plan is to transition to pick up girls, don't do it though. Straight women aren't attracted to tgirls and lesbians hate us for the most part. I mean there's some rare exceptions where if you've been on HRT for at least a couple years and had SRS lesbians will see you as a woman but it's definitely not the norm in the lesbian community, mostly because radical feminists are commonplace in their community and even the ones who aren't get infected by the radfem's ramblings. Even though they're not attracted to you as a trans girl, straight girls are super nice usually so at least you'd have hot girls being nice to you haha.

Either way trans or not I think you should see a therapist man. You sound super depressed and I think seeing someone would help sort out if you're actually trans as well as help you in other areas too. Therapy has been a huge help to me.

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Yes, I'm there too. The only reason I get up during the weekdays is so that I don't get fired. My parents dont support me and I don't have any safety net.

I have often slept 15-17 hours straight.

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I haven't had an O in like 1.5 years. O's are overrated.

Right there with you dude. I sleep as much as I can these days just trying to pass the time until I can start living again (when I'm ready to go full time in public basically).

I thought I was going crazy the other day because I haven't came in like 3 months. Too depressed, I hate masturbating, and I'm choosing to be abstinent for now so I'm **** out of luck. I can't even imagine 1.5 years though that's nuts.

 

[CaptainForehead]

I like masturbating, often do it several hours in a day. At least those pleasure centers are still active in the brain.

 

[Exodus2011]

I think we've talked about this at length in PM but I suppose I will post my thoughts on this here too.

Idk about surgery. I do experience genital dysphoria and would much prefer to have the surgery done, but at the same time I'm not sure if I could handle the recovery and all the dilating. It seems horrible. I'd basically have to take at least 3 months off just to recover and get used to dilating and then until I'm at a year post op dilating would be a major nuisance. I think after that I can just dilate once a week or if I'm having sex with a guy regularly I wouldn't even need to dilate.

Right now my penis does **** with my head a bit but I'm way more concerned about getting other surgery first (facial feminization & maybe a minor hair transplant). If I can pass and blend into society as a woman I'm fine with living as a woman with a penis since no one would be able to tell unless they're having sex with me. In some ways I even think it would be neat and would definitely set me apart from other people.

If your plan is to transition to pick up girls, don't do it though. Straight women aren't attracted to tgirls and lesbians hate us for the most part. I mean there's some rare exceptions where if you've been on HRT for at least a couple years and had SRS lesbians will see you as a woman but it's definitely not the norm in the lesbian community, mostly because radical feminists are commonplace in their community and even the ones who aren't get infected by the radfem's ramblings. Even though they're not attracted to you as a trans girl, straight girls are super nice usually so at least you'd have hot girls being nice to you haha.

Either way trans or not I think you should see a therapist man. You sound super depressed and I think seeing someone would help sort out if you're actually trans as well as help you in other areas too. Therapy has been a huge help to me.

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Right there with you dude. I sleep as much as I can these days just trying to pass the time until I can start living again (when I'm ready to go full time in public basically).

I thought I was going crazy the other day because I haven't came in like 3 months. Too depressed, I hate masturbating, and I'm choosing to be abstinent for now so I'm **** out of luck. I can't even imagine 1.5 years though that's nuts.

depressed over getting girls? lol

you probably look better than me as well. you are like the version of me thats successful at life

but yea i've read about the pussy surgery, sounds fukin scary. they use your penis tissue to make a pussy, it made me anxious and feeling weak just reading about it

and lol, i guess i should get a therapist even tho it wont help much. ALL I GODDAMN WANT IS SOME GODDAMN HAIR SO I CAN ****ING LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE AGAIN. ITS NOT THAT MUCH TO ASK. lol like really . . . . i ****ing have negative self esteem.

hard when you are 5'6, and bald at 22. and i don't even really care to get a girlfriend that much nowadays, i'd rather just be considered attractive by girls then get a girlfriend lol.

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I like masturbating, often do it several hours in a day. At least those pleasure centers are still active in the brain.

truth man. but my self esteem is so low i need to be put down to get off lol

but i feel you on the depressiveness of being bald and unattractive. i wish i was friends with you in real life so we could support each other

recedingyt doesnt know the feels of being unattractive, he couldn't relate

 

[recedingyt]

I'm not depressed over getting girls. I'm depressed because I'm literally not the person who I want to be, and that feeling sucks incredibly hard. I'm depressed because my girlfriend of almost 8 years whom I had envisioned spending the rest of my life with left me at the start of this year and I still love and miss her 10 months later. I'm depressed because I bombed my last semester at school due to the stress of losing my girlfriend + transition and now I'm not even sure if I want to continue doing what I was doing at college (thinking about changing majors from CompSci to Physics). I'm depressed because I spend most days inside doing nothing even though I'm usually a very sociable person just waiting for hormones to hurry the **** up and change me enough to where I don't want to kill myself every time I look in the mirror.

I'm not successful by any means. I have accomplished certain things in my life - I've been in love, I've had good times with friends, I have radically changed my appearance numerous times, but I'm still every bit as empty inside as you.

Also the assumption that I don't know what being unattractive feels like is a little bit of a stretch to say the least. Do you think living as the wrong gender for 22 years is a recipe for feeling attractive? I spent the first 14 years of my life bullied for being fat/ugly and then got my **** together to spite the bullies, lost 70 lbs learned how to style/carry myself etc. Then by the time I was 17 male pattern baldness was hitting me hard and I could no longer style myself very well and my confidence struggled. By the time I was 19/20 I was pretty much completely bald. Add on to all of this my gender dysphoria, bpd, depression, etc.. Hygiene slipped, I regained a bunch of weight, I stopped wearing clothes that fit, etc. Being a fat NW4-NW5 at 19-20 who hates themselves isn't exactly a recipe for feeling good about yourself.

Sure I started to feel better when I got into the gym and started to look better but it still didn't fix my self image because even though I looked good as a fit man, I'm not one. That still isn't fixed, I'm ugly as **** for a woman right now and I probably will never be super hot unless I get a bunch of surgery. Even if that does happen my best years are behind me already.... so yeah, I think maybe I can relate a little more than you realize. I'm just not sitting around doing nothing about my issues like some people, I'm proactively trying to fix them and be positive about my future. Maybe that is where you get the perception that I am successful and/or attractive but that's just my personality making it seem that way.

 

[christophcr11]

It all depends how you wear the baldness. I've seen some guys rocking the balls and beard look. It really does look good too

 

[DannyBoyy]

Some here need to get professinal help to be honest, noones perfect we all have our flaws, dont mean you cant find anyone or you not attractive to someone else, just one of those things we have to wait out, but i do feel some of you need help, and get it now before you dont leave the house at all, depression is a b**ch and makes things seem worse.

 

[Exodus2011]

I'm not depressed over getting girls. I'm depressed because I'm literally not the person who I want to be, and that feeling sucks incredibly hard. I'm depressed because my girlfriend of almost 8 years whom I had envisioned spending the rest of my life with left me at the start of this year and I still love and miss her 10 months later. I'm depressed because I bombed my last semester at school due to the stress of losing my girlfriend + transition and now I'm not even sure if I want to continue doing what I was doing at college (thinking about changing majors from CompSci to Physics). I'm depressed because I spend most days inside doing nothing even though I'm usually a very sociable person just waiting for hormones to hurry the **** up and change me enough to where I don't want to kill myself every time I look in the mirror.

I'm not successful by any means. I have accomplished certain things in my life - I've been in love, I've had good times with friends, I have radically changed my appearance numerous times, but I'm still every bit as empty inside as you.

Also the assumption that I don't know what being unattractive feels like is a little bit of a stretch to say the least. Do you think living as the wrong gender for 22 years is a recipe for feeling attractive? I spent the first 14 years of my life bullied for being fat/ugly and then got my **** together to spite the bullies, lost 70 lbs learned how to style/carry myself etc. Then by the time I was 17 male pattern baldness was hitting me hard and I could no longer style myself very well and my confidence struggled. By the time I was 19/20 I was pretty much completely bald. Add on to all of this my gender dysphoria, bpd, depression, etc.. Hygiene slipped, I regained a bunch of weight, I stopped wearing clothes that fit, etc. Being a fat NW4-NW5 at 19-20 who hates themselves isn't exactly a recipe for feeling good about yourself.

Sure I started to feel better when I got into the gym and started to look better but it still didn't fix my self image because even though I looked good as a fit man, I'm not one. That still isn't fixed, I'm ugly as **** for a woman right now and I probably will never be super hot unless I get a bunch of surgery. Even if that does happen my best years are behind me already.... so yeah, I think maybe I can relate a little more than you realize. I'm just not sitting around doing nothing about my issues like some people, I'm proactively trying to fix them and be positive about my future. Maybe that is where you get the perception that I am successful and/or attractive but that's just my personality making it seem that way.

didn't you mention having girlfriends even before baldness? i was a loser even when i had hair

and about the gender dysphoria, idk, i couldn't relate. sounds ****ty though. at least that issue will be fixed for you one day, unlike my hair issue

also you had experienced being attractive before, thats all i want lol

but obviously i can relate about the being young and bald thing, sucks major ***. good that you have also experienced that then. we can still relate deeply at the end of the day. baldness is a ****in bond of brotherhood

honestly i was just busting your chops a bit, seeing how you would describe and defend your issues

 

[recedingyt]

didn't you mention having girlfriends even before baldness? i was a loser even when i had hair

and about the gender dysphoria, idk, i couldn't relate. sounds ****ty though. at least that issue will be fixed for you one day, unlike my hair issue

also you had experienced being attractive before, thats all i want lol

but obviously i can relate about the being young and bald thing, sucks major ***. good that you have also experienced that then. we can still relate deeply at the end of the day. baldness is a ****in bond of brotherhood

honestly i was just busting your chops a bit, seeing how you would describe and defend your issues

I had a bunch of girlfriends before I went bald, but I was with my ex for almost 8 years so that would mean I was 15 when her and I started dating. So it's not like the relationships that came before were super serious or anything.

I know this is gonna come off ****ty from your perspective but in some ways I envy you never knowing what being attractive feels like. It's like you don't even really know what you're missing. You do, but at the same time you don't. I had a taste and then male pattern baldness ripped it out from under me. It's like a cruel joke.

edit: that last paragraph was dumb and insensitive, so please disregard. I apologize.

 

[CaptainForehead]

If you didn't have male pattern baldness, would you gone the trans road?

 

[EvilLocks]

I like masturbating, often do it several hours in a day. At least those pleasure centers are still active in the brain.

Wow, you really need a gf, Captain Can't be healthy to mastrubate that much (if you really meant that)

 

[recedingyt]

If you didn't have male pattern baldness, would you gone the trans road?

Yes if anything I would have started transitioning sooner if I never had male pattern baldness. I didn't realize the effects of hormones were so powerful, tbh I didn't even know they existed, which is why there needs to be better education about trans issues in schools in my opinion. I thought I was doomed to never be able to transition because of my male pattern baldness but little did I know they make these little blue pills that stop stuff like male pattern baldness from happening and make you look like a girl in other ways.

My male pattern baldness didn't make me trans, a hormonal imbalance in utero did (basically, my brain was never properly masculinized through exposure to androgens in utero).

 

[Exodus2011]

I had a bunch of girlfriends before I went bald, but I was with my ex for almost 8 years so that would mean I was 15 when her and I started dating. So it's not like the relationships that came before were super serious or anything.

I know this is gonna come off ****ty from your perspective but in some ways I envy you never knowing what being attractive feels like. It's like you don't even really know what you're missing. You do, but at the same time you don't. I had a taste and then male pattern baldness ripped it out from under me. It's like a cruel joke.

negged. so you are complaining about having girlfriends lol

and lmfao come on on the second part. definitely worth a neg. anyways i think i was decent when i had hair.

 

[Dench57]

 

[Joan]

You do, but at the same time you don't. I had a taste and then male pattern baldness ripped it out from under me. It's like a cruel joke.

That's a horrible thing to say to someone. You don't kick someone when he's down. I think Exodus made that comment about wanting to experience being attractive in jest, since he ended with "lol." If I remember correctly, he's stated many times that he was satisfied with his looks before hair loss.

 

[DoctorHouse]

The hell are you talking about? I'm not complaining about having girlfriends... show me where I complained about that. I said I was depressed because my SO of 8 years left me at the start of this year, that's it. Who wouldn't be depressed about that ffs? Just because I've been with girls before doesn't make all of my problems go away. You seriously can't think that's how it works... right?

And you insult my appearance on top of that? You know I'm transitioning and that it's a sensitive issue for me and you do insult me about it anyway. I could easily say something hurtful about how I probably look better as either gender than you, you know. I don't see you posting pictures of yourself so who exactly are you to judge anyway... I'm starting to remember why I stopped posting pictures here. At the end of the day I know I'm gonna be cute as **** once I get all my stuff figured out, so whatever I guess.

I swear man you have issues, get into therapy asap

Just curious, since I can't ask Caitlin Jenner this question, can you explain how a person who feels they are a woman trapped inside a male's body is sexually attracted to the same sex. I know people don't like labels but basically would it mean you are just basically a lesbian trapped inside a male's body? This is assuming the person is not attracted to men at all.

 

[recedingyt]

Where did Exodus insult your appearance? Try to put yourself in his shoes for a second, I know I can for the girlfriend part.

You're talking about an 8 year relationship (!), for Exodus, and I when I was 21, this was nothing short of science-fiction. And your break-up, first world problems at their finest.

Exodus might not be the most stable individual here, but I can totally understand his reactions. He's never gotten one shred of affection from a girl, and you tell him he's lucky?

Since I've been able to get in relationships with girls, of course it came with some issues: girls craving drama, being entitled, demanding the moon of me, belittling me, etc.

But I would never complain about having had those experiences. You went through hair loss yourself! The worst break-up in the world is ridiculous compared to losing your hair in your teens.

Damn people who have always had it easy when it comes to dating can be the ones whining the most about their "love problems". I'm sorry but I cannot have much sympathy for those people.

I remember when I was in psychiatry, completely desperate that I was already nearly bald at 21, that I would never look good again, never look like myself again, and probably never have sex in my life.

Then the last day of my hospitalization, this tall good-looking fullhead settles in my room. I ask him why he's here: "Oh it's because my girlfriend broke up with me!"

"Oh you have a 'problem' that could be resolved now in a quarter of a second? A 'problem' that will not affect your looks, identity and social life negatively for the rest of your youth? That must be tough!"

He edited the part about my appearance out after I called him out on it.

Fred I don't think you are in a position to be criticizing me for holding the opinion that losing the love of my life is more important than my hair. Because you know what, there is no ambiguity there. If I say it's more important, then it god damn is, your opinion is of literally no consequence here. Not many people on this forum care enough about their hair to the point where they had a mental breakdown and had to be hospitalized over it. In fact my male pattern baldness was probably more aggressive than yours and I never went into the hospital so if I wanted I could easily tell you to man up, it's not a big deal, etc. like you have here with me losing my SO. I know I'd trade every hair on my head just to make the pain of losing her go away, not even to have her back, so **** you for belittling my pain. It's almost as if some of our worlds don't revolve entirely around hair loss. It's almost as if we're all different and can assign value to things differently than other people (in your case hair = higher value, in my case love = higher value). Crazy to think about isn't Fred?

I shouldn't have to explain these concepts to you like you're a freaking 6 year old or something

That's a horrible thing to say to someone. You don't kick someone when he's down. I think Exodus made that comment about wanting to experience being attractive in jest, since he ended with "lol." If I remember correctly, he's stated many times that he was satisfied with his looks before hair loss.

Yeah that is my bad. I clearly misjudged this situation, so for that I apologize to exodus because I'm a rational being who can admit when I have made a mistake (looking at you Fred, Mr. "physically unable to put on muscle even though I'm completely healthy")

Just curious, since I can't ask Caitlin Jenner this question, can you explain how a person who feels they are a woman trapped inside a male's body is sexually attracted to the same sex. I know people don't like labels but basically would it mean you are just basically a lesbian trapped inside a male's body? This is assuming the person is not attracted to men at all.

Okay. So basically a trans woman who is assigned male at birth can be any orientation just like anyone else because gender identity =/= sexual orientation

If they like men, they're a straight trans woman
If they like women, they're a lesbian/gay trans woman
If they like both, they're a bisexual trans woman

For the record I am bisexual with a preference for men, but I have only ever been in love one time and it was with a woman. As you said it is important not to get hung up on labels though.

Also I don't personally like the whole "trapped in X body" thing because of the fact that I've been on hormones for a while now, and my body really isn't a man's anymore. My skin is soft like a girl's, my boobs are growing in quite nicely, my hips have grown 3.5" so far, etc. Maybe if I was pre-HRT I would agree with that idea of being in the wrong body more. I know pre-HRT I was very disconnected/dissociated from my body, so actually yeah I'd definitely agree pre-HRT. But now my body is mine. It's a work in progress but it's mine nonetheless, and if I am a woman that would make it a woman's body from my perspective. My logic is that hormones literally change your gene expression to that of the opposite sex, at some point effectively "changing" you into the other sex. I understand that some people with grade level understandings of biology will disagree with me here, and that's fine, but that's just my perspective after having felt the shift in perception of actually being on HRT for a while, as well as looking at the science of how hormones change your body.

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