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[shookwun]

Yep, I've never bragged, I'm just stating a fact.

People sometimes say how much they make here and you don't see anyone calling them braggers.

"Yeah but real men brag about how much dough they make, not about how many girls they get!"

I've never seen @shookwun brag either, he's just telling his experiences, he even said that he's been voluntarily celibate for a while now.

It's like when he tells his slayer stories, some members are like "look at that bragger!" and when he talks about his insecurities, low self-esteem and difficulty to get meaningful relationships, no one bats an eye.

I've told many embarrassing stories myself, only in this thread I talk about having dated girls I was ashamed of. That doesn't seem to trigger anyone.

And as shook (and @zircon too) has said before: credentials (shook came up with that term, credit where it's due) are important. We had some overly positive members telling everyone here to shave all their hair off, that looks didn't matter much and that they were happy and living fulfilling lives with a shaved head.

Then when pressed over and over again, pages after pages, they finally admitted that their love life was a desert, or that they were virgins. If you give advice about dating and the (un)importance of hair, I expect you to have a decent dating life yourself, to know what I'll be getting into if I follow your advice.

That's why numbers are important.

I believe a lot of people have a hard time comprehending, and accepting the fact that some people live better lives then others. Alot of these people cannot fathom the idea of someone actively pursuing women, going out, traveling and living an optimal life because they haven't experienced something of that dimension. Sometimes it's easier to cope, and feel like we are all equals, and the paradigm of a slayer, and living the life of Riley is just seen in movies. We want to accept the movement, that believe that others live mundane life styles to that of our own.


It's a defense strategy to help one feel better about there own boring, and lonely life.

correct on you post about me being voluntarily incel. this is a stage where I have accepted the fact that I can in fact attract a variety of women if I put my foot fourth. But stacked between self-esteem, and image issues it has pulled me to an abrupt stop. I am at a stage where I want to recover from this hair transplant, and move on with my life, Oddly enough, I can relate to your buzzed, and look better them my former self type out look. I look better buzzed then i do with a grown out hair prior to my transplant, seeing as my density was diffuse, and i did not have optimal FU per cm2. which gave me the appearance of looking good in certain lighting, and horrible in others. Granted after this procedure I should be able to enjoy the luxury of having grown out hair, and fully appreciate my aesthetics But i can relate to how you look better shaved then grown out, which is the case for those with nappy, and crappy hair characteristics.

I believe my situation is better then others, seeing as I know my potential. But numbers are not the issue, as I see quality. I do believe a slayer can be defined by the quality of his partners, not so much the numbers. Which reminds me of all the people i work, and encounter with always highlighting there life, and demonstrating that i should follow in an indirect speech. as if what they have accomplished is the right thing, and what i have done is wrong. meanwhile these supposed happy men show me there significant others, and i laugh inside 90% of the time. Rarely do I encounter men with stunning partners, unless they are within equal terms of appeal. environment, finances and other factors can apply on a social stand point, but our aesthetics almost entirely dictate the physical appeal of our opposites Granted, if you're one of those baldos who go on foreign romance exchange tours, then this concept does not apply.

Another notion we can bring forward is the 'life story teller' we often hear people talking out are ears of passed experiences. But when we connect the dots, these people in fact have accomplished very little. All though all these encounters, and experience sound like they life one hell of a life. But when we put all these stories together X days X years. It's all bark, and little bite. It's like me talking to a bald guy about my weekend, and he mentions slaying, going out to the beach, and I am thinking that this guy is living one hell of a life. He starts to studder 'Yeah, i remember when we went out camping' Me: 'oh yeah?' ( awaiting for a detailed response as i am interested in this relation to my recent story) He then followed by saying '14 years ago'


my point is, once you get to know someone and they got all these stories on the table you realize it's f*** all over the course spawn of how many years they have been alive. It's a highlight of every high point in a few hours of discussion. Most people live boring lives outside of actively pursuing, and smashing pussy. Money is a great tool for cultivating ,life experiences, that and reading books. Stupid people don't read, and they will actively talk about other people, and gossip.

 

[CopeForLife]

I believe a lot of people have a hard time comprehending, and accepting the fact that some people live better lives then others. Alot of these people cannot fathom the idea of someone actively pursuing women, going out, traveling and living an optimal life because they haven't experienced something of that dimension. Sometimes it's easier to cope, and feel like we are all equals, and the paradigm of a slayer, and living the life of Riley is just seen in movies. We want to accept the movement, that believe that others live mundane life styles to that of our own.


It's a defense strategy to help one feel better about there own boring, and lonely life.

correct on you post about me being voluntarily incel. this is a stage where I have accepted the fact that I can in fact attract a variety of women if I put my foot fourth. But stacked between self-esteem, and image issues it has pulled me to an abrupt stop. I am at a stage where I want to recover from this hair transplant, and move on with my life, Oddly enough, I can relate to your buzzed, and look better them my former self type out look. I look better buzzed then i do with a grown out hair prior to my transplant, seeing as my density was diffuse, and i did not have optimal FU per cm2. which gave me the appearance of looking good in certain lighting, and horrible in others. Granted after this procedure I should be able to enjoy the luxury of having grown out hair, and fully appreciate my aesthetics But i can relate to how you look better shaved then grown out, which is the case for those with nappy, and crappy hair characteristics.

I believe my situation is better then others, seeing as I know my potential. But numbers are not the issue, as I see quality. I do believe a slayer can be defined by the quality of his partners, not so much the numbers. Which reminds me of all the people i work, and encounter with always highlighting there life, and demonstrating that i should follow in an indirect speech. as if what they have accomplished is the right thing, and what i have done is wrong. meanwhile these supposed happy men show me there significant others, and i laugh inside 90% of the time. Rarely do I encounter men with stunning partners, unless they are within equal terms of appeal. environment, finances and other factors can apply on a social stand point, but our aesthetics almost entirely dictate the physical appeal of our opposites Granted, if you're one of those baldos who go on foreign romance exchange tours, then this concept does not apply.

Another notion we can bring forward is the 'life story teller' we often hear people talking out are ears of passed experiences. But when we connect the dots, these people in fact have accomplished very little. All though all these encounters, and experience sound like they life one hell of a life. But when we put all these stories together X days X years. It's all bark, and little bite. It's like me talking to a bald guy about my weekend, and he mentions slaying, going out to the beach, and I am thinking that this guy is living one hell of a life. He starts to studder 'Yeah, i remember when we went out camping' Me: 'oh yeah?' ( awaiting for a detailed response as i am interested in this relation to my recent story) He then followed by saying '14 years ago'


my point is, once you get to know someone and they got all these stories on the table you realize it's f*** all over the course spawn of how many years they have been alive. It's a highlight of every high point in a few hours of discussion. Most people live boring lives outside of actively pursuing, and smashing pussy. Money is a great tool for cultivating ,life experiences, that and reading books. Stupid people don't read, and they will actively talk about other people, and gossip.

cliffs?

 

[shookwun]

He was banned. But we think he asked for it. I didn't mean you specifically. DBW called out The Polar Bear. Then Shook called out Johnson. What provoked all this?

I was testing him, and he failed.

DBW needs to stick with his old niche of having submissive male partners that he met off grinder, and how he wears a piece before going out on the weekend.

 

[Roberto_72]

The big one we don't understand:

Why are some girls instantly attracted to you to the point that you could make out with them in a matter of minutes (sometimes seconds) and bang them in a matter of hours (sometimes minutes) while other girls will permanently see you as an asexual (or even repulsive) doormat that would never be allowed to give her a back rub even after years of interaction with her?

@shookwun , care to make an attempt at this one while you're (obviously) high?

I am no @shookwun and I am not high, but IMHO women will like you immediately or never like you based on:
- chemistry (1)
- chemistry (2)
- societal pressures (1)

Chemistry (1): how much your features (body, face, voice, smell) talk to the zones of her brain that emit the neurotransmitters that will make her attracted to you. Apparently women are even faster than men to understand if the person in front of them is a possible mate.

Chemistry (2): what her hormonal balance is when they meet you. When women are (pardon my French) menstruating, they tend to like men much less then when ovulating. This is why pole dancers on a pill make less money than pole dancers who are not (there is a study about this, mind you). When women ovulate, they are much more "in the mood." Plus, you do not recuperate. When they are menstruating, women tend to like men much less. But when they meet them again while ovulating, nothing changes. Still not like you.

Societal pressures (1): as most men, most women think they need an aim in life. I am saying "most women". Of course intellectual artistic girls do not fall into this category; neither do women with "daddy issues". Most women think the most important aim in life is creating a family and procreating. After all, this is how we are all here.

To do that, they need a man who fits the shoe. To be able to raise a family, a man must have some characteristics that are - by societies - considered intrinsic to a good candidate. So: tall to keep enemies distant, maybe handsome to give a woman more orgasms and increase the possibilities she gets pregnant (also this is scientific: handsome men have more kids), has good money to sustain the costs of a family.

 

[SmoothSailing]

meanwhile these supposed happy men show me there significant others, and i laugh inside 90% of the time. Rarely do I encounter men with stunning partners, unless they are within equal terms of appeal.

Yeah average looking guys settle with average looking girls, how is that laughable? And why are they 'supposedly happy'?

"as if what they have accomplished is the right thing, and what i have done is wrong."

Is that not exactly what you are doing to them?

 

[shookwun]

The big one we don't understand:

Why are some girls instantly attracted to you to the point that you could make out with them in a matter of minutes (sometimes seconds) and bang them in a matter of hours (sometimes minutes) while other girls will permanently see you as an asexual (or even repulsive) doormat that would never be allowed to give her a back rub even after years of interaction with her?

@shookwun , care to make an attempt at this one while you're (obviously) high?

When we push the right buttons, and play the right emotions we can put our key in there lock.

Aesthetics largely dictate this, but knowing how to talk to a women, and making her feel comfortable is what seals the deal.


But a lot of this can be skipped out of the equation once drugs, and alcohol are involved.


Autists, and men with poor social skills that dont involve alcohol may require more time. But for men with experience, a drink or two and being socially suave can easily snag a women within the first night. It may not lead to sex, but you will definitely make out, and get to know each other that much more.


Obviously looks entirely shape this, but knowing how to make her feel good about herself, and comfortable around you is what seals those home runs on one night. Square root to everything is Looks, then everything else. We can substitute and eliminate certain factors, but the deciding factor is always our physical presence. This is what shapes how interested, and primal a women feels around us.

 

[blackg]

It's a defense strategy to help one feel better about there own boring, and lonely life.

This cliche response is soooooo overused. So damn simplistic.
Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, some folks do exist out there that don't feel the need to inform strangers about how much sex they are getting?


Unfortunately your ego, and that of the Belgian, is never too far removed from the stories you both love to tell.
That's why it's an embarrassment to read.
Not only that, but the terminology (and that damn numbering/rating system you all seem to use) is so junior high,it's not funny!

Little boys can't seem to grasp that they are behaving like little boys.

Give it some thought. (you too, Freddo)

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Well slaying doesn't mean 'sex'. It means a lot of sex with hot girls. But yeah I dislike the term and have never heard in real life and would never use it in real life. Same goes for a lot of the lingo here. Incel, gymcel.

Yeah, its just that you can get called a slayer on here after saying you've slept with plenty of women - even though you tell them that the women were not hot and most were easily average.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

This cliche response is soooooo overused. So damn simplistic.
Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, some folks do exist out there that don't feel the need to inform strangers about how much sex they are getting?


Unfortunately your ego, and that of the Belgian, is never too far removed from the stories you both love to tell.
That's why it's an embarrassment to read.
Not only that, but the terminology (and that damn numbering/rating system you all seem to use) is so junior high,it's not funny!

Little boys can't seem to grasp that they are behaving like little boys.

Give it some thought. (you too, Freddo)

Do you mind if we ask you how many women you have been with?

And also, are you dating right now?

 

[shookwun]

Yeah average looking guys settle with average looking girls, how is that laughable? And why are they 'supposedly happy'?

"as if what they have accomplished is the right thing, and what i have done is wrong."

Is that not exactly what you are doing to them?

commonly hear them spouting 'happy wife, happy life'

It's like what they do, they feel I should do. Why dont you have kids, why dont you have that, as if that is the right path to follow.




They cannot live a life like that of my own, where they do enjoy solitary, but are happy in terms of being around others. it's like they look down on certain peoples situation, not realizing that there situation is nothing special. but when we bring the numbers forward, and I tell them how many women i met in a few months they are in shock. they approach women as a full time job, while i put menial effort and recieve mathematically better numbers. When you have aesthetics, you don't care. We can aknowledge the fact that we choose to be single for various reasons.

it would however depress me if I was like Rick, who sends out hundreds of messages on dating applications, and has a zero response rate. That would be devastating knowing how hard you try to meet people, but have nothing to show for it. it's easier to feel content about your situation when you have the credentials to fall back on.


of course, it doesn't help that most these peoples views on my life are flooded by the current generation nothing (snap chat, blog, facebook and instagram everything). |to the point where these people would be severely depressed if we took all these tools, and there partner out of there life. A man who depends on someone, or an object for a state of happiness is not truly happy.

What exactly defines being happy, and the meaning of life?

 

[shookwun]

This cliche response is soooooo overused. So damn simplistic.
Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, some folks do exist out there that don't feel the need to inform strangers about how much sex they are getting?


Unfortunately your ego, and that of the Belgian, is never too far removed from the stories you both love to tell.
That's why it's an embarrassment to read.
Not only that, but the terminology (and that damn numbering/rating system you all seem to use) is so junior high,it's not funny!

Little boys can't seem to grasp that they are behaving like little boys.

Give it some thought. (you too, Freddo)

It's in relation to our discussion. I don't see any reason why people would not contribute there passed experiences to a discussion that involves women. \No different then sitting around the boys, having beers and your buddy mentions a particular women when there is relation to the discussion.


I mean if we start talking about motor vehicles, am I supposed to oppress myself from telling you that I drive a ferrari and enjoy it. Should i accept the fact that not everyone has the chance to own, and operate this piece of machinery. Maybe I should talk about a toyota, and honda as that's the same caliber most people are at.



Little boys behaving, and acting like what?

I didn't know a few stories over the course span of a year in relation to the topic we are discussing is seen as bragging.

 

[blackg]

Do you mind if we ask you how many women you have been with?

f*** knows!!! After a whileI lost track.
What kind of a egotistical moron would keep numbers on this?

Also, I'm in a casual relationship with someone right now, though this is now getting complicated.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

commonly hear them spouting 'happy wife, happy life'

It's like what they do, they feel I should do. Why dont you have kids, why dont you have that, as if that is the right path to follow.




They cannot live a life like that of my own, where they do enjoy solitary, but are happy in terms of being around others. it's like they look down on certain peoples situation, not realizing that there situation is nothing special. but when we bring the numbers forward, and I tell them how many women i met in a few months they are in shock. they approach women as a full time job, while i put menial effort and recieve mathematically better numbers. When you have aesthetics, you don't care. We can aknowledge the fact that we choose to be single for various reasons.

it would however depress me if I was like Rick, who sends out hundreds of messages on dating applications, and has a zero response rate. That would be devastating knowing how hard you try to meet people, but have nothing to show for it. it's easier to feel content about your situation when you have the credentials to fall back on.


of course, it doesn't help that most these peoples views on my life are flooded by the current generation nothing (snap chat, blog, facebook and instagram everything). |to the point where these people would be severely depressed if we took all these tools, and there partner out of there life. A man who depends on someone, or an object for a state of happiness is not truly happy.

What exactly defines being happy, and the meaning of life?

Rick was below average - fat, short, ginger, ugly face and awful, abrasive personality

 

[JohnsonDDG]

f*** knows!!! After a whileI lost track.
What kind of a egotistical moron would keep numbers on this?

Also, I'm in a casual relationship with someone right now, though this is now getting complicated.

You don't know who you have slept with????

You must surely know if its in 10s 20s 30s

Perhaps its quite a lot if you have truly lost count.

 

[blackg]

It's in relation to our discussion. I don't see any reason why people would not contribute there passed experiences to a discussion that involves women.


I mean if we start talking about motor vehicles, am I supposed to oppress myself from telling you that I drive a ferrari and enjoy it. Should i accept the fact that not everyone has the chance to own, and operate this piece of machinery. Maybe I should talk about a toyota, and honda as that's the same caliber most people are at.



Little boys behaving, and acting like what?

I didn't know a few stories over the course span of a year in relation to the topic we are discussing is seen as bragging.

OK, sweet. Let's just agree to disagree about how much information shared would or would not be considered bragging.
You make some good points regarding a Ferrari. A Lamborghini would of made a better image, though.

Anyway, look! f*** this.

I really want your opinion on the Super Bowl. It was the greatest one ever and it deserves some discussion, more so then slaying, I believe.

So, tell me what you thought about it, man!
I assume you did watch it?

 

[JohnsonDDG]

OK, sweet. Let's just agree to disagree about how much information shared would or would not be considered bragging.
You make some good points regarding a Ferrari. A Lamborghini would of made a better image, though.

Anyway, look! f*** this.

I really want your opinion on the Super Bowl. It was the greatest one ever and it deserves some discussion, more so then slaying, I believe.

So, tell me what you thought about it, man!
I assume you did watch it?

An australlian watches the superbowl!!!!!

Whats going on??

 

[SmoothSailing]

commonly hear them spouting 'happy wife, happy life'

It's like what they do, they feel I should do. Why dont you have kids, why dont you have that, as if that is the right path to follow.




They cannot live a life like that of my own, where they do enjoy solitary, but are happy in terms of being around others. it's like they look down on certain peoples situation, not realizing that there situation is nothing special. but when we bring the numbers forward, and I tell them how many women i met in a few months they are in shock. they approach women as a full time job, while i put menial effort and recieve mathematically better numbers. When you have aesthetics, you don't care. We can aknowledge the fact that we choose to be single for various reasons.

it would however depress me if I was like Rick, who sends out hundreds of messages on dating applications, and has a zero response rate. That would be devastating knowing how hard you try to meet people, but have nothing to show for it. it's easier to feel content about your situation when you have the credentials to fall back on.


of course, it doesn't help that most these peoples views on my life are flooded by the current generation nothing (snap chat, blog, facebook and instagram everything). |to the point where these people would be severely depressed if we took all these tools, and there partner out of there life. A man who depends on someone, or an object for a state of happiness is not truly happy.

What exactly defines being happy, and the meaning of life?

I agree with most of everything you're saying.


"What exactly defines being happy, and the meaning of life?"

My problem is that you seem to think you know "A man who depends on someone, or an object for a state of happiness is not truly happy" whilst simultaneously lamenting others for believing they know. "It's like what they do, they feel I should do. Why dont you have kids, why dont you have that, as if that is the right path to follow."

I don't know the answer, but my parents, for example, depend on each other and me and my siblings for their happiness. They are 'truly' happy by any measure I can think of.

And just because someone might become depressed if you took the internet off them doesn't mean they are not 'truly happy'.

 

[SmoothSailing]

You can cope about this all you want but in the end, when you're in your late 40's and still childless, you will regret it.

You are right for the average person, just to absolute as usual. There are outliers.

 

[shookwun]

Having children for whatever reason is a great achievement, and can definitely aid in being happier as you grow older.
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Alot of parents live there lifes through there children. it gives there life more purpose, and merit is they grow older

We feel invincible in our primes, but eventually we get older, and weaker.

We invest in our children as a form of fulfillment.

As I've often said, anyone (men and women) who tries to wage a war on biology is going to lose in the end.

Having kids and building a family is the right path if you don't want to end up living an empty and meaningless life after you've hit middle-age.

You can cope about this all you want but in the end, when you're in your late 40's and still childless, you will regret it.

I believe it's because of our inability to project ourselves into our own future, all we know is our youth and we think we'll still be able to live the same lifestyles (slaying, night outs with friends, living the bachelor life) well into our 40's. This is delusional.

Having children is an investment, an investment on your future happiness, once you're older and your looks have faded, what will you have left? Will it still be p*rn, video games and desperately trying to chase tinderella's ad vitam eternam?

Choosing to be exclusive with my current girlfriend was not settling, I really had to let 3 other girls go to be with her at the time, all pretty decent. It was a happy time in my life, but I knew I couldn't go on like this forever, making girls fall in love with me and then telling them: "Nah I can't settle, settling is for beta losers, I need my freedom!"

That's the easy path, a path that will make you unhappy in the long-term.

This may sound beta as f***, but even though having sex with multiple women can feel good, it doesn't compare to developing a lasting meaningful relationship with this one girl that you found special. My girlfriend having stars in her eyes while telling me "you make me happy" is an amazing feeling that 'slaying' will never provide.

 

[CopeForLife]

Having a child isn't any achievement at all.