Is Male Pattern Baldness Rare @ The Population

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Returning to the subject of kids, what I consider the two major causes of declining birth dates:

1) lower rates of relationship formation. People want better than they can get so they stay single. Myself included lol I should have settled for an obese woman with a good head by now, and perhaps would have if this were 1947. In general more people are single, and age of first marriage is increasing.

2) Much lower standards of living among the middle class. Back during the baby boom the middle class could afford to have 3.9 kids per women which was the peak rate. What was normal was to buy a house in your mid 20s and have enough financial security to take care of everything.

When I was 25 I was in graduate school, I had no savings, no security, and a modest income. I was renting an apartment.
I'm actually helping research this with my university.

We're running qualitative interviews for people under 35 and the biggest reason that they are all avoiding having children is that they feel it will infringe on their lifestyle and prevent them from doing things they enjoy.
 

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I'm actually helping research this with my university.

We're running qualitative interviews for people under 35 and the biggest reason that they are all avoiding having children is that they feel it will infringe on their lifestyle and prevent them from doing things they enjoy.

It will. Living standards and security are much lower than they used to be.

What happens if you lose your job after having a baby?
 

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Smart phones were going to happen anyway and were happening anyway due the crackberry, which was the nickname for blackberry. I agree it's a problem, in my life for sure.

Jobs helped personalize the computer, he made it more maInstrem and socially acceptable with his marketing campaigns, and he's responsible for Pixar.

The world would look very different if games still had to be installed from the command line. Jobs is one of the few people in the software revolution who thought about aesthetic.

Yes. Before the ipod you could get an mp3 player with the same capabilities. But it would't be as user friendly, as nice looking, as 'cool'. I remember pressing sticky buttons to navigate a shitty menu to find your files in whatever folder structure you placed them in. Then came the ipod and it was all much nicer, simpler and user friendly.

He cared about the software, and how the average user interacts with it, when a lot of other companies didn't. Same goes with the iphone. There were plenty of other phones with similar capabilities, but they all had shitty software.
 

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It will. Living standards and security are much lower than they used to be.

What happens if you lose your job after having a baby?
You live on government welfare until you find work.

If you have a mortgage without redundancy protection you will likely lose your house.

If you lose your house you will be placed into social housing - but it must be noted that social housing in the UK is not fit for standard and well below any acceptable standard.
 

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True, but all of that is linked.
By intrusive I am refering to the android.
By corporate... you know what I mean...

I get the intrusive part but I don't get how 'corporate' is a criticism? If you meant it as that?
 

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That's pricesely this issue for me! My job is not even secure!
That and the fact from all the men I loved, no one really wanted to get really commited... I think it's more difficult to find a man wanting to build something nowadays (except Muslims).
Those men are fools for not being thrilled to be with you.
 

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I meant it as with Apple you have a Brand identity so deep you basically take part of a community okay with the fact they can only function with Apple software, apps, etc.
It all started with the white headphones!

Yeah haven't bought Apple in years. They're going in a bad direction if you ask me.

Sure Steve Jobs outlines pretty much what's happening to Apple himself.

 

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Women don't select for IQ.

They value looks, money, status, and on many occasions, religious affiliation.


\uhh muzzies who breed tons of children proclaim Alah, and religion is what pairs people before anything.

these f*****g deludes claim that alah chooses them to be with said women. they always contribute alah to the worship of anything.


|Whenever i talk to a hardcore muzzy they always spew this bullshit about religion rectifying there reasoning.


its all looks however, and women barely have a choice. in a lot of muslim countries your income is in relation to how many wives you have because a man takes care of the women. while the women raises the children. however, millennial muzzies versus boomer types are far different, especially if they are born in North America. most dont even folow the religion. I commonly see hijab wearing females that still expose the hair and wear some what tight clothing. modern day muslim trying to assimilate with north american style.


muslim religion the type where they follow sharia law in Saudia arabia for example is beyond retarded


in this culture essentially money > looks when it comes to a man having a wife. (hardcore muzzy)

Looks > money (modern day north american muzzy)
 

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\uhh muzzies who breed tons of children proclaim Alah, and religion is what pairs people before anything.

these f*****g deludes claim that alah chooses them to be with said women. they always contribute alah to the worship of anything.


|Whenever i talk to a hardcore muzzy they always spew this bullshit about religion rectifying there reasoning.


its all looks however, and women barely have a choice. in a lot of muslim countries your income is in relation to how many wives you have because a man takes care of the women. while the women raises the children. however, millennial muzzies versus boomer types are far different, especially if they are born in North America. most dont even folow the religion. I commonly see hijab wearing females that still expose the hair and wear some what tight clothing. modern day muslim trying to assimilate with north american style.


muslim religion the type where they follow sharia law in Saudia arabia for example is beyond retarded


in this culture essentially money > looks when it comes to a man having a wife. (hardcore muzzy)

Looks > money (modern day north american muzzy)

Religion matters a lot to many women.

My religious relatives and friends pretty much got married at will.

Conversely, one of my best friend's was drioped by his GF when he was young because she wanted a man who puts Jesus first. They were f*****g for years. She loved him, and ended it.
 

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Conversely, one of my best friend's was drioped by his GF when he was young because she wanted a man who puts Jesus first. They were f*****g for years. She loved him, and ended it.

@Marky what are you waiting for?
 

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Religion matters a lot to many women.

My religious relatives and friends pretty much got married at will.

Conversely, one of my best friend's was drioped by his GF when he was young because she wanted a man who puts Jesus first. They were f*****g for years. She loved him, and ended it.
These religions you describe are emotional at best. type of people who react based on how they feel for the given moment. She would never of fucked him if she followed the gospel, and it's beliefs.


Religious zealots such as those who reside in Saudia Arabia are examples of people who follow the rules of the kuran. religious police, sharia law, and following strict guide lines. Sometimes I wonder if its fear that is instilled in this people that make them follow the rules. I believe fear followed by religion is what makes these people follow it pin-point closely. The whole chopping hands off for stealing, lashes for adultery, and possibility of death for being with a women that you are not married to are what make these people stay in line


Modern day religious people in North America.

Religious millennial: 'I am muslim'
me: 'you're were born muslim'
me: ' do you follow the kuran, and it's movement. do you believe in the religion, and approach your tasks as a form of worship for Alah'
Millenial: 'I mean, i was born but like i dont follow the religion.


meanwhile supposed muslim is sleeping with random women, doing cocaine, and other wise haram activities. When people are given the opportunity to do what they want, they will act just on that,



Modern day, do as you please religious followers. On certain days they follow there religion.
 

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They always do whatever they please.

My Muslim friend had girls who gave him blowjobs in his car.

Of course he didn't stop them.

He can also name famous pornstars. He shouldn't be able to, because masturbating is haram.

I could go on. The only things he respects to the letter is not drinking alcohol and eating pork.

It's OK though, only god can judge him in the end.

Religion is a cope that has multiple sub-copes within itself.

And the ones who do follow are instilled by fear, and its punishments.

Religion in North America, and Europe for the most part is a joke.


We can instill fear in anyone, and they will eventually follow the rules.
 

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My Muslim friend had girls who gave him blowjobs in his car.

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These religions you describe are emotional at best. type of people who react based on how they feel for the given moment. She would never of fucked him if she followed the gospel, and it's beliefs.


Religious zealots such as those who reside in Saudia Arabia are examples of people who follow the rules of the kuran. religious police, sharia law, and following strict guide lines. Sometimes I wonder if its fear that is instilled in this people that make them follow the rules. I believe fear followed by religion is what makes these people follow it pin-point closely. The whole chopping hands off for stealing, lashes for adultery, and possibility of death for being with a women that you are not married to are what make these people stay in line


Modern day religious people in North America.

Religious millennial: 'I am muslim'
me: 'you're were born muslim'
me: ' do you follow the kuran, and it's movement. do you believe in the religion, and approach your tasks as a form of worship for Alah'
Millenial: 'I mean, i was born but like i dont follow the religion.


meanwhile supposed muslim is sleeping with random women, doing cocaine, and other wise haram activities. When people are given the opportunity to do what they want, they will act just on that,



Modern day, do as you please religious followers. On certain days they follow there religion.

I know people who genuinely believe quite passionately. They're not all sinning all the time.
 

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@Marky what are you waiting for?
Conversely, one of my best friend's was drioped by his GF when he was young because she wanted a man who puts Jesus first. They were f*****g for years. She loved him, and ended it.

Sorry guys just busy off and on, would love to spend hours here to debate but that wouldn't be a prudent use of my time.

To me that sounds like a cop out, there was likely another reason she dropped him, then used the Jesus thing to make herself look noble, while instead she might have found someone taller, better looking, NW1, more money - you know the usual.

She might have been a loose christian (during the time they were together, actually literally by the sounds of it LOL) then found the right way later in life - it's a possibility.

Relationships/dating is way more complicated than described in a couple sentences. To say "she loved him" - total blanket statement, that word is tossed around as loosely as people wearing a rosary around their neck cause the fashion industry dictated it's cool this season.
And how many love birds do we have exchanging vows at the alter all the time, then ending in divorce not long after.
 
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Conversely, one of my best friend's was drioped by his GF when he was young because she wanted a man who puts Jesus first. They were f*****g for years. She loved him, and ended it.

Sorry guys just busy off and on, would love to spend hours here to debate but that wouldn't be a prudent use of my time.

To me that sounds like a cop out, there was likely another reason she dropped him, then used the Jesus thing to make herself look noble, while instead she might have found someone taller, better looking, NW1, more money - you know the usual.

She might have been a loose christian (during the time they were together, actually literally by the sounds of it LOL) then found the right way later in life - it's a possibility.

Relationships/dating is way more complicated than described in a couple sentences. To say "she loved him" - total blanket statement.
Sometimes you just have to pretend to want the same things.

I went out with a woman that liked ambition so I told her about all these crazy pipeline dreams and it kept her happy. I ended up breaking up with her before the truth came out but those few months were good fun for both of us.
 

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Most religions are about hypocrisy and double-standards, so it's hardly a surprise. :D
If there is a heaven and hell, God and devil our life purpose should be coming to the realization of that truth - further, that there will be a judgement day and you will make an account for all you did during your brief existence on planet earth. Thus, we should be striving for holiness, however we will fall along the way - but we keep trying through study, prayer and the graces God gives us along the way. No one said it would be easy.

But fight the good fight, and at the end your best hope is to hear the words "welcome home by good and faithful servant, enter into your masters kingdom"
 
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