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Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016
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Do you think Trinov might have any interactions with other topicals that would make Trinov not work correctly? For example one of the topicals I use is Zix. When I use Zix at night, by morning it is fully absorbed but there is some left over sediment of the Zinc Sulfate and p5p powder as not all of it dissolves. Do you think this leftover Zinc Sulfate and p5p powder could negatively effect Trinov? Any thoughts guys?
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Well Dr Brotzu I'm pretty sure said within 7 days you will notice less shedding, I believe this was stated somewhere between page 200-800 if someone could please go back & quickly verify? I'd check but my mouse broke as I was typing this 
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maybe i'll take a shot later
anyway it's transparent, slightly yellowish, foams very much.
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I hope it works i want to live my life without worrying about my hair
Honestly i believe it could be a quite decent maintenance treatment and you could regrow some hair but don't expect something too crazy either.
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Every word in the patent is meaningless. There was no placebo. He directly contradicts what he has said in his interviews. The "results" are purely user testimonial. And we know based on this forum that the average user hasn't yet been diagnosed with some form of learning disorder.
The 5 year regrowth claim comes from a single user's testimonial in the very early stages of testing who likely has been bald as a bat for 15 years. 5 years ago he was equally bald, so he technically isn't lying when he says 5 year regrowth even though it's bullshit.
It does not work.
Lolololol, here we go again
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They didnt say full regrowth
Finally, we missed you! This guys posting history doesn't make sense. He only posts in this thread and everytime he is bashing Fidia and Brotzu. If I would think that Merck has employees in this forum acbrantlin would be my number one suspect.
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but seriously though, was this the actual official release of the product? Why did they have hardly any inventory? and why didnt they advertise the release on the official site or anywhere else?
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I made an account specifically because of the Brotzu thread. Commenting on other threads would then mean that I casually frequent a hair loss forum, which is not something I want to be known for even to only myself.
I've said all this before multiple times, but I'll do it again.
I was an early defender of the lotion. I did all the research and I did the necessary mental gymnastics for the science to make sense, and I won't lie that parts of it still theoretically make sense (but so do those of many drugs that end up failing). What's sad is I can see the same logic people use now that I also used back in 2016, so I can somewhat empathize. I also went through the faulty logic that Merck would try to shut it down because it would cut into their sales. I also went through the faulty logic of "why would a respected Doctor lie" and "Fidia is a reputable company, they wouldn't risk their reputation on a scam." I won't sugarcoat the fact that I was f*****g retarded back then just like you and others are now. The thin threads of hope blinded me to the flagrant inconsistencies in Brotzu's own words and the fact that the ingredients are basically the same as hundreds of other cosmetic anti-fall products that have existed on the market for decades that don't work:
All of them share the same basic ingredients:
1. A derivate of gamma linolenic acid
- Borage oil and evening primrose oil and others, all very very old hair loss treatments. They all consist of Gamma-linoleic acid, aka GLA. GLA converts to DGLA in the body. DGLA is the main ingredient in Brotzu's lotion.
2. Some form of phytoestrogen (plant-based estrogen) or soy isoflavone. A popular one is Glycine Soja oil. They're meant to bind to estrogen receptor beta. They also play a large role in the whole chain of enzymes and metabolites that have been researched for decades to play a role in hair, such as PGE2, PGD2 and the COX-2 enzyme.
-S-equol and R-equol, the secondary ingredient in Brotzu's lotion, are soy isoflavones. Excluding their interaction with DHT, they very actively bind to estrogen receptor beta.
3. Some amino acid that aids in cell metabolism. There are so many of them. One that's used in some of these anti-fall lotions is L-Methionine.
-Brotzu's lotion uses L-Carnitine.
Those are the main ingredients in Brotzu's lotion. They're alarmingly similar to many other anti-fall lotions that have been out for decades and have research supporting that they are good for your hair.
It's important to know that the only 'discovery' ingredient is the DGLA (which is a precursor to the real discovery ingredient PGE1). the equol and L-Carnitine are "these 15 year old papers says it might be good for hair, so I'll just throw them into the batter and see how it works" ingredients. They were never anything and they do nothing. And we know from above that DGLA is nothing new in the hair loss industry.
The only 'new' thing is liposomal delivery, which aren't actually new. Hollywood hair doctors are big into the egg mixture scalp injections for hair treatments that have existed for many years. Guess what the Brotzu patent says they use for liposomes? phosphatidylcholine. Guess what's in eggs? phosphatidylcholine.
With that we've finally come full circle to the realization that this product will do basically nothing. It might make your hair feel nicer, who knows. But you will not regrow hair.
My last hope is destroyed now.
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Cut your horse sh*t. You're talking out of your *** and have no actual first-hand experience with any of these compounds. Put your money where your mouth is - order some racemic equol from Alibaba and use it in a dose of 15-30 mg per day, topically. Tell me it does nothing. I'll wait.
It will make your tits and *** balloon, and nuke your DHT to nothing, and I can guarantee your hair will improve in the process. This is no different from using something like estradiol or cyproterone acetate.
It's not a question if equol "works". The form of Equol used in Brotzu lotion is a much safer variant (S-Equol) and the only question is if Brotzu managed to make it work in such a low dose (which liposomes should help with). No one here has reported side effects yet, so it's only a matter of time to see if it is effective or not.
Bunch of dead-sh*t know-it-alls in this f*****g thread for years now who don't know the first thing about chemistry or biology, and not to mention lacking any first-hand experience in the subject matter to even speak about it. Pathetic.
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*drops mic*