Kintor has started Phase 3 trial in China for Pyrilutamide

[Hope111]

Creo que podemos poner esto a descansar. todos hemos sido engañados por un gran marketing, pero tan pronto como la porcelana estuvo sobre la mesa, deberíamos haber sabido que todo se trata de parecer real al exterior pero con productos de baja calidad. Kintor no investigó mucho y no motivó por qué la pirilutamida debería tener incluso menos aspectos sexuales. su objetivo nunca fue hacer un antiandrógeno seguro, sino obtener una porción del mercado de la finasterida, particularmente en China. si el 10% o más tienen lados sexuales a los que les importa, todavía hay suficientes personas para usarlo en su propio país. eso es todo lo que necesitan para que sea un éxito comercial. la susceptibilidad a los efectos secundarios de los antiandrógenos es un defecto genético al igual que la caída del cabello en sí. es ridículo pensar que alguien diseñaría un tratamiento solo para personas con este defecto. Sin embargo, espero que tengan un problema importante con la aprobación de la FDA y que su producto de mierda los vuele directamente a la cara. entonces pueden aplicar su vehículo de basura de etanol justo donde pertenece.

are you saying that Finasteride side effects are only in a small percentage?

 

[badnewsbearer]

are you saying that Finasteride side effects are only in a small percentage?

not really


edit: also if some might be kind enough maybe check out my post here. still looking for a solution because I am a form believer that making finasteride work is closer than any of the BS research chemicals that dont work or themselves have the same problem as finasteride(delivery)

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/help-with-topical-finasteride-side-effects-with-blood-measurements.137986/

 

[Min0]

its weird because in their report they state maximum accumulation occurred after 2 weeks and resulted in steady state levels in the blood after that. CB idk, it supposedly has no sexual sides because it degrades into something like cortisone when it enters the blood stream so once it reaches the penis or brain should not be anti androgenic anymore. also larger trials for 12 months exist with no sexual sides. however ri haven't seen many positive anecdotes that it works. it'd be nice for someone to try it though and document their experience

steady or not is not the useful question here. they should have been asking themselves if this "steady" level has negative effects or not.
for me it has reduced my libido significantly i have been living like a monk for months.

there is a member here who maintained for 2 years on CB and he's still on it i think @el_duterino.12627
and he reported no side effects but only maintenance no new regrowth.

 

[badnewsbearer]

steady or not is not the useful question here. they should have been asking themselves if this "steady" level has negative effects or not.
for me it has reduced my libido significantly i have been living like a monk for months.

there is a member here who maintained for 2 years on CB and he's still on it i think @el_duterino.12627
and he reported no side effects but only maintenance no new regrowth.

its hard to gauge if maintenance really means that the drug works because you could just not change naturally especially in older men. also if the drug would work maybe you'd not see hair on slick bald areas but in my opinion the texture and quality of the hair NEEDS to change for it to actually work. that that doesnt do it then its probably not much better than placebo. haven't heard of anybody who had success with CB not even as much as RU, pyrilutamide or extremely low dose topical finasteride. I think if you cant tolerate the anti androgens listed you are out of luck and shaving head is the only tangible options. it sucks but thats what you get when 25years of research revolve around nothing but bullshit. we are at the same state as 1995 and thats quite comical

 

[Min0]

its hard to gauge if maintenance really means that the drug works because you could just not change naturally especially in older men. also if the drug would work maybe you'd not see hair on slick bald areas but in my opinion the texture and quality of the hair NEEDS to change for it to actually work. that that doesnt do it then its probably not much better than placebo. haven't heard of anybody who had success with CB not even as much as RU, pyrilutamide or extremely low dose topical finasteride. I think if you cant tolerate the anti androgens listed you are out of luck and shaving head is the only tangible options. it sucks but thats what you get when 25years of research revolve around nothing but bullshit. we are at the same state as 1995 and thats quite comical

i don't know, there are some poeple on the internet claiming that full dose pyri didn't do anything for them.
while for me with that kind of those i can see my miniaturised hair growing thicker in a matter of days.

perhaps i don't have aggressive hairloss like the rest and that a weak AR antagonists that gets degraded in the blood is what i really need to maintain.

i'll try CB and keep you guys updated

 

[badnewsbearer]

sounds good. also please someone could weigh in on my thread. or has everybody here completely given up on the finasteride stuff? I though I could get it to work side effect wise at least but my body is whack and ED is unavoidable

 

[Baldingtooyoung]

i don't know, there are some poeple on the internet claiming that full dose pyri didn't do anything for them.
while for me with that kind of those i can see my miniaturised hair growing thicker in a matter of days.

perhaps i don't have aggressive hairloss like the rest and that a weak AR antagonists that gets degraded in the blood is what i really need to maintain.

i'll try CB and keep you guys updated

Where did u buy it.
It's not premixed right? I am traveling the world forever so don't have a fridge and many storage options.

 

[Baldingtooyoung]

sounds good. also please someone could weigh in on my thread. or has everybody here completely given up on the finasteride stuff? I though I could get it to work side effect wise at least but my body is whack and ED is unavoidable

Bro you sound like you have a lot of problems tbh

 

[badnewsbearer]

Bro you sound like you have a lot of problems tbh

why? because I try this drug?

 

[kiwi666]

guys, after cutting the dose to 1/4 for a week without noticing any changes to the side effect (low libido). i'm finally stopping this drug and planning to try a weaker AR antagonist.

pyri works great for the hair but for me it killed my libido.

it is accumulating somewhere because when i started i could see the effect of lowering the dose immediately (the itch come back quickly and libido heals rapidly). but now even with low doses it takes a long time to notice.

i took a long shower and chaged all my clothes and bed sheets and pillow.

what's the consensus on CB-03-10 ? is it true that it has no side effects because it is well designed to degrade when it hits the bloodstream but on the other hand it's only good for maintenance ? because that's fine by me. if i can keep the hairs that pyri grew back i'll be happy.

I guess the good thing is that you can buy it from the same site

Thanks for sharing your results with us. Shame about the side effects.

I don’t think I’d try it without a modern vehicle, and it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen anytime soon.

 

[kiwi666]

I think we can put this to rest. we have all been fooled by great marketing but as soon as china was on the table we should have know that they are all about looking real to the outside but having low quality products. Kintor did not do much research and did not motivate why pyrilutamide should even have less sexual sides. their goal was never to make a safe anti androgen but to just get some slice of the finasteride market particularly in china. if 10% or more have sexual sides who care there is still enough people to use it in their own country. thats all they need for it to be a commercial success. susceptibility to side effects on anti androgens is a genetic defect just like hair loss itself. its ridiculous to think someone would tailor a treatment just for people with this defect. I sure hope however they get major issue with FDA approval and their shitty product flies them right in the face. then they can apply their ethanol garbage vehicle right where it belongs.

OR whatever lab is selling illegal copies of Pyril has screwed us over / haven’t got it right.

Just being devils advocate here. I don’t think we really know.

All I know is I’m grateful for you guys and people testing this stuff. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

 

[badnewsbearer]

OR whatever lab is selling illegal copies of Pyril has screwed us over / haven’t got it right.

Just being devils advocate here. I don’t think we really know.

All I know is I’m grateful for you guys and people testing this stuff. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

on reddit some guy said his estrogen was highly elevated on pyrilutamide. and many people said the sides are typical anti androgen sides. so I dont think the lab screwed anybody over tbh. its just that pyrilutamide is not the miracle drug we hoped for unfortunately

 

[Modill]

I am also looking for something to replace Finasteride. I'm rejecting women that I like because of the side effects and my surroundings are starting to think that I'm homosexual (I don't have problems with them haha) but yes, I need to maintain and with that I would be happy.
anyway, when should piry rehearsals come out in the US? fourth quarter of 2022 right?
another aspect, I suppose you know cosmeRNA68, in this they have created some micelles for the molecule, so I suppose that scientists are aware of the importance of an effective vehicle, more than us. One thing that strikes me about this compound is that in theory it suppresses the AR receptor in the hair, but nevertheless its result is an increase of 4% according to the study, when it should be a cure in the field of androgens.

What about accept yourself and shave your head? Better than have hair and don’t have sex with any girl. What you think?

 

[kiwi666]

What about accept yourself and shave your head? Better than have hair and don’t have sex with any girl. What you think?

I agree with this.

I’d do the same except I have a FUT scar which is why I personally keep coming back here.

While I hate it, I did have a good 10 years of success with it and got lots of female attention during that time. I don’t care as much now that I’m happily married.

Next move for me in another hair transplant with Eugenix in India.

 

[Hope111]

What about accept yourself and shave your head? Better than have hair and don’t have sex with any girl. What you think?

not for me. I need the confidence that feeling good about myself gives me today to feel good. In the future, who knows?
In addition, it would be very hard to stop the treatments and that in 5 years an effective maintenance would come out

 

[badnewsbearer]

not for me. I need the confidence that feeling good about myself gives me today to feel good. In the future, who knows?
In addition, it would be very hard to stop the treatments and that in 5 years an effective maintenance would come out

agree. if I look like prince William then it doesnt matter if I have a partner or not, it'd be hell for me. that guys is what im morphing into and sometimes I have nightmares of looking like him. he is a respectable man but that look is just so terrible, the horseshoe is uglier than actually having an ugly face. shaving your head is not the final act, you'll still get the horseshoe and look bad and obsess over your appearance.

 

[Modill]

@Min0 I stopped 100% pyri during 7 days until recover líbido.

Then I tried very low dose and I had líbido OK, but hairloss continue. After 1 week I increase the dose and hairloss stopped again, but after 2 days with the normal dose my líbido decreased.

I am still trying to find a balance, but not sure I will be able to do it.

@badnewsbearer I would prefer shave my head that take finasteride again. Topical finasteride goes systemic, and is less effective for hairloss but with same sexual side effects. No worth it.

@Min0 in 45 days we know that Pyri works, but in 10 years I never saw that CB works for any body.

best

 

[badnewsbearer]

maybe you should shave your head modill? like this week. good luck. you generally dont know what you are talking about

 

[Modill]

maybe you should shave your head modill? like this week. good luck. you generally dont know what you are talking about

When you don’t like my comments you click “dislike” like a little kid. I understand your frustration.

I shaved my head, but with Pyri I stopped to see if it works. Now I am trying to find a balance using the lowest dosage. If I don’t find, I will shave again.

 

[badnewsbearer]

When you don’t like my comments you click “dislike” like a little kid. I understand your frustration.

I shaved my head, but with Pyri I stopped to see if it works. Now I am trying to find a balance using the lowest dosage. If I don’t find, I will shave again.

that is what a "dislike" button is for. you'd be surprised how many of my comments have been disliked