Life After Nw3: Hell Or Merely Purgatory?

[hairblues]

What I think I got out of this:

1) I should try and get a glycolic serum and apply it on nights that I'm not applying the retinol. Maybe one with vitamin C if I can find it.

2) I should get a facial at a professional spa. Maybe one on my back too.

1) I do Vitamin C in day and Retinol at night that is 1-1.5% strength no more no less.
For now skip Glycolic serums. it will be too much all three even if alternating...let skin get used to retinol.
Dont bother using C at night its redundant if using retinol.
Use a non clogging sun block if you can find.
Dont use a harsh cleanser while adjusting to above. Try cetaphil or something gentle or even dove soap see how skin reacts before adding stronger cleanser.


2) I have found them beneficial over years. They do sometimes break skin so its important to go to a place your confident in hygiene...also facials hurt I think a lot of men don't know this. not awful but they do squeeze your face.

 

[EvilLocks]

CF, I'm in a minority even in my own age group. I don't have a career, just a small part-time job. I actually like cleaning and cooking and running things at home. I'm like June Cleaver (well, by day anyway). I'm a bit needy, I'll admit. That's not always good.

I'm needy too, Joan. I think a lot of women are.

 

[Joan]

* Outside the bedroom door.

I'm lost here!

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'm lost here!

"Needy" can be a powerful aphrodisiac
in the pleasant privacy of a pair's conjugal domain. I agree, "not always good",
for as we know some couples must take a breather in between.

 

[buckthorn]

"needy" people are the worst partners imo.. no offense people. I mean, yes, I need emotional support from forums like this, where I can vent and get constructive feedback. But, I don't think any of you would fit the text book definition of "needy". A woman that has to b**ch and moan about every inconvenience of her day? no thanks. So, what do you mean by "needy".

I've literally been knee deep in sewer sh*t trying to unclog drains, many times. Twice, I've had a gun pointed at me, once directly to my forehead. I never even complained, or needed support for it. No one even knows it ever happened, except for the cops. "Needy" people are weak. I dated a girl once who bitched and moaned and cried about every little f*cking thing. It made me sick and it ended quick.

That;s the worst part about Androgenetic Alopecia. I am sure most of you have been through some really tough sh*t that you've concealed from others. Once we start to lose our hair, it's not a legitimate concern to people. For ONCE, we have something that's actually bringing us down and causing depression and we have no one irl to talk to.

 

[EvilLocks]

What I mean by needy is someone who requires a lot of attention and love. Someone who needs to be reassured that their partner loves/wants them.

 

[buckthorn]

What I mean by needy is someone who requires a lot of attention and love. Someone who needs to be reassured that their partner loves/wants them.

Verbally? I mean, don't you usually just know that they still love / want you?

 

[EvilLocks]

Verbally? I mean, don't you usually just know that they still love / want you?

Both verbally and physically. At least that's how it is for me. I have low self confidence so I need to be reassured by a partner that I am good enogh; he needs to both show it and say it. A bit sad, shouldn't have to be that way, but it is what it is...

 

[buckthorn]

Both verbally and physically. At least that's how it is for me. I have low self confidence so I need to be reassured by a partner that I am good enogh; he needs to both show it and say it. A bit sad, shouldn't have to be that way, but it is what it is...

not sad. there's nothing wrong with that! I am sure any man that dates you would just naturally say these things anyways.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Both verbally and physically. At least that's how it is for me. I have low self confidence so I need to be reassured by a partner that I am good enogh; he needs to both show it and say it. A bit sad, shouldn't have to be that way, but it is what it is...

A lot of women grow more confident in their late 20s and their 30s. My ex, for example, who was a very shy and introverted girl in her early 20s, got a lot more confident over her mid-to-late 20s.

It may also help you that better hair loss treatments are on the way in the near future.

 

[EvilLocks]

It may also help you that better hair loss treatments are on the way in the near future.

Yes, just 5 more years now

 

[EvilLocks]

A lot of women grow more confident in their late 20s and their 30s. My ex, for example, who was a very shy and introverted girl in her early 20s, got a lot more confident over her mid-to-late 20s.

She probably wasn't bald though Hard to grow more confident as your head "grows" more bald.

 

[F2005]

That;s the worst part about Androgenetic Alopecia. I am sure most of you have been through some really tough sh*t that you've concealed from others. Once we start to lose our hair, it's not a legitimate concern to people. For ONCE, we have something that's actually bringing us down and causing depression and we have no one irl to talk to.

This really is true. And since hair loss exacerbates previously minimal issues, hair loss has made me become a needy person. I've never been a needy person because I was able to change the previous problems in my life. If I didn't like them, I could change them. But since I am so disgusted by my own hair loss, and cannot find a viable option to fix it, I've become very needy and quite honestly, I've complained way too much to way too many people. It's just because it feels so hopeless. Earlier in the thread, people were talking about issues from past relationships. I've had my heart broken, and although it was not the most pleasant experience, it never really tore me up because I had the confidence in my own self-identity that I could find another woman. I no longer possess this confidence due to hair loss.

What sucks about hair loss is that people will sympathize with our mental depression but when we tell them that it's due to hair loss, that is where the sympathy ends. If we said it was because we just had someone break up with us, we'd get MUCH more sympathy, yet in reality, hair loss is much, much worse than any kind of breakup. True love can be found again, regrowing hair effectively is now not an option.

 

[Joan]

"needy" people are the worst partners imo.. no offense people. I mean, yes, I need emotional support from forums like this, where I can vent and get constructive feedback. But, I don't think any of you would fit the text book definition of "needy". A woman that has to b**ch and moan about every inconvenience of her day? no thanks. So, what do you mean by "needy".

I've literally been knee deep in sewer sh*t trying to unclog drains, many times. Twice, I've had a gun pointed at me, once directly to my forehead. I never even complained, or needed support for it. No one even knows it ever happened, except for the cops. "Needy" people are weak. I dated a girl once who bitched and moaned and cried about every little f*cking thing. It made me sick and it ended quick.

That;s the worst part about Androgenetic Alopecia. I am sure most of you have been through some really tough sh*t that you've concealed from others. Once we start to lose our hair, it's not a legitimate concern to people. For ONCE, we have something that's actually bringing us down and causing depression and we have no one irl to talk to.

"Needy" can be a powerful aphrodisiac
in the pleasant privacy of a pair's conjugal domain. I agree, "not always good",
for as we know some couples must take a breather in between.

I'm not needy in the sense of wanting to be with someone 24/7 or in the ways you mentioned, buckthorn. In my case, it's tolerance, support and listening when the same things cause me anxiety, worry and fear over and over again. It's also doing the normal guy things that I've never done because I've never had to.

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'm not needy in the sense of wanting to be with someone 24/7 or in the ways you mentioned, buckthorn. In my case, it's tolerance, support and listening when the same things cause me anxiety, worry and fear over and over again. It's also doing the normal guy things that I've never done because I've never had to.

Joan is there fatigue that accompanies or associated with your episodic anxiety?
If I recall right, I think Evil has shared some related concerns in the past due to an auto-immune diagnosis.
My apologies (EvilL.) if I'm broadcasting misinformation.

I have struggled with chronic fatigue all my life. Early in my youth it was sort of superstitiously overlooked by my parents, but mostly humorously (passively) written off as "boyhood laziness"; a diagnosis I grew to abhor.

So in my household ,even before puberty, I was already silently aware of
the familial fingers figuratively crossed and clandestine prayers whispered that facilitated no de facto prognosis, only a futile conviction that I would grow out of it I never did so as one would expect.

As I grew out of adolescence and into manhood my fatigue progressing along in tandem
work and school became increasing overwhelming.
Not only had it eroded my sense of identity, eg: masculinity, ego (among other cumulative ill effects),
fatigue may be the product of my present day anxiety?
What I do know is that overall it has been a silently sinister burden for me and the decreasing number of relationships around me.

 

[F2005]

ID Walker, you should really be a songwriter. Your signature sounds like the chorus to an uplifting, motivating 80s rock song.

 

[Joan]

Joan is there fatigue that accompanies or associated with your episodic anxiety?
If I recall right, I think Evil has shared some related concerns in the past due to an auto-immune diagnosis.
My apologies (EvilL.) if I'm broadcasting misinformation.

I have struggled with chronic fatigue all my life. Early in my youth it was easily superstitiously overlooked by family
and mostly humorously written off as "boyhood laziness"; a diagnosis I grew to abhor.
So in my household ,even before puberty, I was already silently aware of
the familial fingers figuratively crossed
and clandestine prayers whispered that facilitated no de facto prognosis,
only a futile conviction that I would grow out of it. I never did and as one would expect,
as I grew out of adolescence and into manhood my fatigue progressing along in tandem
work and school became increasing overwhelming.
Not only has it eroded my sense of identity, eg: masculinity, ego.
it has been an overall silent and fatal burden on family and friends.

I get mild fatigue from time to time but nothing that prevents me from doing things. Fatigue does not accompany my bouts of anxiety. I take lorazepam (Ativan) when they're especially bad or if I'm having trouble sleeping. I've taken antidepressants in the past, but I can't say they helped much. Plus, I hate taking medications every day. Hypochondria overwhelms me at times and has for years. I prefer taking benzos when needed; they never fail me.

I think EL mentioned she suffers from CFS. I'm sorry for both of you. I can't imagine having to summon strength to push myself through my days. Are some days worse for you than others, I.D?

 

[I.D WALKER]

Interesting ( and kind) of you to say F2005, given that our own hyperbolical and delightfully diabolical
Buckthorn purports that my sig caused him to cry his bloody eyes out lol.

You know I actually enjoy some of that period pop ( ie: Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode, Modern English)- so thanks for tying me to that.
F2005 always good to see you posting, I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that I would like to see more regular posts from you.

 

[blackg]

Yes, just 5 more years now

That line is a classic but it never gets old.

 

[buckthorn]

Yes, just 5 more years now

you and IDj ust love making me throw up blood. PUKE!!!!!!!