Life After Nw3: Hell Or Merely Purgatory?

[hairblues]

What does vitamin C do? Don't we already get vitamin C from our diet?

What's the point of a facial? Do you mean crushing an avocado, putting on my face, and then lounging for 30 minutes? Does that count as a facial?

Topical Vitamin C serum hydrates and stimulates collagen production and it protects from free radicals which ages skin.
Retinol exfoliates skin (you can sub it out for a gylcolic serum one is better for acne one is better for wrinkles)
Diet is important too so the C serum does what the diet does but more intense and direct...it has to do with the way the molecules are delivered into the skin..if i ate an orange its not same--if i rubbed an orange on my skin its also not the same its not going to penetrate the way a vitamin c serum will. Its designed to do what it does on a molecular level.

professional facial if done correctly is about deep cleaning the pores and exfoliating the skin...if skin oiler its more deep cleaning and extracting pimples if skin is older or drier its about exfoliating with light peels or microdermabrasion.
IF you get one i would suggest trying it at a dermatologist office with a licensed esthetician or an upscale spa.
Sometimes if you have pimples they use a little 'needle' called a lance if you don't want this tell them not to use it. Its pretty standard in USA that they are disposable as they should be for safety reasons but I don't know where you live and i am ignorant of other countries rules with these things.
I think you mentioned your back in another post--you can have this done on your back as well. I had that done twice on my back and it worked fantastic. 'back-facial' they call them..some places even do butt-facials. I live in a country a lot of attention is paid to the butt these days at salons. Brazilian waxing, butt facials, a*** bleaching the three sort of go together these days..lol.

 

[Exodus2011]

I want in!

bring the RV

 

[Dench57]

What does vitamin C do? Don't we already get vitamin C from our diet?

What's the point of a facial? Do you mean crushing an avocado, putting on my face, and then lounging for 30 minutes? Does that count as a facial?

I think all the men here know which type of facial is best for the skin David.

 

[blackg]

I think all the men here know which type of facial is best for the skin David.

I like your humor, Dench.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Topical Vitamin C serum hydrates and stimulates collagen production and it protects from free radicals which ages skin.
Retinol exfoliates skin (you can sub it out for a gylcolic serum one is better for acne one is better for wrinkles)
Diet is important too so the C serum does what the diet does but more intense and direct...it has to do with the way the molecules are delivered into the skin..if i ate an orange its not same--if i rubbed an orange on my skin its also not the same its not going to penetrate the way a vitamin c serum will. Its designed to do what it does on a molecular level.

professional facial if done correctly is about deep cleaning the pores and exfoliating the skin...if skin oiler its more deep cleaning and extracting pimples if skin is older or drier its about exfoliating with light peels or microdermabrasion.
IF you get one i would suggest trying it at a dermatologist office with a licensed esthetician or an upscale spa.
Sometimes if you have pimples they use a little 'needle' called a lance if you don't want this tell them not to use it. Its pretty standard in USA that they are disposable as they should be for safety reasons but I don't know where you live and i am ignorant of other countries rules with these things.
I think you mentioned your back in another post--you can have this done on your back as well. I had that done twice on my back and it worked fantastic. 'back-facial' they call them..some places even do butt-facials. I live in a country a lot of attention is paid to the butt these days at salons. Brazilian waxing, butt facials, a*** bleaching the three sort of go together these days..lol.

What I think I got out of this:

1) I should try and get a glycolic serum and apply it on nights that I'm not applying the retinol. Maybe one with vitamin C if I can find it.

2) I should get a facial at a professional spa. Maybe one on my back too.

 

[I.D WALKER]

David,
Ironically maybe here is one contemporary facial alternative for your back
that might be more socially acceptable and not turn up too many eyebrows?
Who knows, an added bonus could come out of this approach
that couldconceivably allay at least two of your previously verbalized dilemmas?
For we know there exist some women who might find the image's aphrodisiac effects
irresistible enough to execute in a game of hot pursuit.
Just hope she's not into brunettes.

 

[EvilLocks]

Men don't need to fap (unless they still want to) when they have a significant other.

I disagree. Men need variety. But when having a great sex life with a significant other surely there will be a need to fap less.

 

[EvilLocks]

Depends

Sure, I was thinking about things like sexual assault. If someone wants to get down and dirty with some consentual BDSM I'm not going to judge

 

[Joan]

Oh the alert of your Like reminded me I forgot to mention something in my previous post.



I mean this is hugely significant for a lot of "theory" on here, and actually made me think a LOT about my previous anecdotes about knowing guys who don't get laid after marriage. A lot of this is making sense- these guys might be good friends, decent people in many ways, but when it comes to their relationships you've made me realise a trend which is very unhealthy in a long-term relationship and the worst thing for a marriage: once they feel they've "captured" a woman's interest, that is the "conquering" of said woman.

And the significance? You can't fake love, it's 24 hours a day, you can't pretend to be the perfect guy for someone you feel you've conquered and are basically, in some subconscious way, sick of. CaptainForehead's post about men needing a constant string of new sexual experiences to get off is incorporated into this, it's certainly not every man but some significant number just get married for the hell of it, to settle down as they know their prime and time is running out, and that's really not a great attitude to have if you're entering the biggest commitment of your life.

I would like to believe I am capable of loving someone in the same way you have expressed your husband loves you. I know even in relationships where I wasn't completely sure on my other half, I would never express this and gave it my best shot in terms of showing them the attention every person deserves as a human being.

..And then after a certain point it ends. LOL

The guys you know who aren't getting laid: Are you saying it's because they've gotten "sick of" their wives since the pursuit has long ago ended and they don't desire sex with their wives as much; their wives are the ones who are no longer interested in frequent sex for whatever reasons; or a combination of both?

I'm sure a great many women feel their biological clocks are ticking and are anxious to get married for that purpose, which isn't a great attitude either if the love isn't there.

I don't know about not being able to fake love. I'd bet some people do, indeed, put on some believable performances.

Regarding CF's post, I can't feel what a man does. It makes me think, though, of a guy I dated in my 20s who was about seven years older. It ended up being purely sexual (no love on his part), but we did remain friends for about 20 years. He came to visit my father when he was dying, and when he left, his nurse asked me if he was my BF (we resumed our sexual relationship during my divorce). I said no, but I wish he were. My father looked at me and warned, "The temptation will always be there." That was one of the last things he ever said to me. My father was a loving and devoted family man from a much different generation, but men know men, and he knew that this guy was the type who would have to fight the urge to stray.

Remember that my husband and I have been together for over 20 years. My love and respect for him have intensified as we've experienced life together. If I were posting here in the beginning of the relationship, my feelings would not have the depth they do now.

 

[Joan]

I disagree. Men need variety. But when having a great sex life with a significant other surely there will be a need to fap less.

Hence why I said "unless they still want to."

 

[buckthorn]

Regarding CF's post, I can't feel what a man does. It makes me think, though, of a guy I dated in my 20s who was about seven years older. It ended up being purely sexual (no love on his part), but we did remain friends for about 20 years. He came to visit my father when he was dying, and when he left, his nurse asked me if he was my BF (we resumed our sexual relationship during my divorce). I said no, but I wish he were. My father looked at me and warned, "The temptation will always be there." That was one of the last things he ever said to me. My father was a loving and devoted family man from a much different generation, but men know men, and he knew that this guy was the type who would have to fight the urge to stray.

It was absolutely chilling for me to read this, because I was on the other end of a VERY similar situation in my twenties, with one of the only women I have ever really loved.

We dated while I was in grad school. It became purely sexual on my end, but I was a coward and didn't end it. We ended up breaking up, but we still would sleep together. I should have known, obviously, she still had feelings for me. We became good friends, and still are really good friends. Her Father was dying of cancer a few years back, so she was back home for a while. We would hang out every day when she was going through this. We would go running by her house. She told me, her Father asked, "is it ***** you're hanging out with?" and she said "yes".. I forgot exactly how he replied, but he warned her, kinda like your Father. So ironic these two stories. Of course, I would have NEVER made a move on her or anything. I was actually pretty mature at this point in my life and regretted hurting her so much in the past.

-oh, and let me add, her Father was the same way. An extremely loving Dad who knew the first time he saw me, when I was like 21 that I was no good for her (which I wasn't)... but he accepted that she would hang out with me on his death bed. Just kinda told her the same thing, like the feelings will be there.

 

[Joan]

It's probably very easy to love Joan the way her husband loves her.

;-)

Yes Joan's husband may be one of the wisest spouses in the land,
The man who understands and appreciates the value he holds in his hands,
is beyond reproach or jealous scorn.

I initially took this as a fairly creepy post based on looks, but now I realise you mean Joan as a person, and I completely agree.

Seriously, you guys give me way too much praise. I'm in a different age bracket than the women you date. Too bad they couldn't be like us older women on the inside and still look like themselves on the outside.

 

[CaptainForehead]

Seriously, you guys give me way too much praise. I'm in a different age bracket than the women you date. Too bad they couldn't be like us older women on the inside and still look like themselves on the outside.

Isn't it disheartening what modern feminism has made the current generation of women?

 

[Joan]

It was absolutely chilling for me to read this, because I was on the other end of a VERY similar situation in my twenties, with one of the only women I have ever really loved.

We dated while I was in grad school. It became purely sexual on my end, but I was a coward and didn't end it. We ended up breaking up, but we still would sleep together. I should have known, obviously, she still had feelings for me. We became good friends, and still are really good friends. Her Father was dying of cancer a few years back, so she was back home for a while. We would hang out every day when she was going through this. We would go running by her house. She told me, her Father asked, "is it ***** you're hanging out with?" and she said "yes".. I forgot exactly how he replied, but he warned her, kinda like your Father. So ironic these two stories. Of course, I would have NEVER made a move on her or anything. I was actually pretty mature at this point in my life and regretted hurting her so much in the past.

-oh, and let me add, her Father was the same way. An extremely loving Dad who knew the first time he saw me, when I was like 21 that I was no good for her (which I wasn't)... but he accepted that she would hang out with me on his death bed. Just kinda told her the same thing, like the feelings will be there.

Wow, buckthorn, this gave me chills too.
You have nothing to regret, though. We have no one to blame but ourselves when we continue to have sex with men who don't return our love and tell us so. These are choices we make on our own.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Seriously, you guys give me way too much praise. I'm in a different age bracket than the women you date.

You know it's authentic when there can be no G strings attached.., seriously.

 

[Joan]

Isn't it disheartening what modern feminism has made the current generation of women?

CF, I'm in a minority even in my own age group. I don't have a career, just a small part-time job. I actually like cleaning and cooking and running things at home. I'm like June Cleaver (well, by day anyway). I'm a bit needy, I'll admit. That's not always good.

 

[buckthorn]

Wow, buckthorn, this gave me chills too.
You have nothing to regret, though. We have no one to blame but ourselves when we continue to have sex with men who don't return our love and tell us so. These are choices we make on our own.

yeah, I've made my peace with it. I was NOT good to her though. I obviously never cheated or anything like that, I just emotionally abused her. I knew she liked me afterwards and I would use this to have sex with her. It's weird looking back and seeing how much you've grown up. Know a days, I am super careful and respectful about not hurting people. She is getting married soon. To a guy that cheats on her while she's home alone, in an alienating place with no friends.

After her Father passed, I had a HORRIBLE string of bad luck. I got that transplant, which totally f*cked my life. I tore my knee playing bball and then my leg and ankle. My business almost went under due to a horrible depression and drinking problem. I have never really believed too heavily in God or religion, but in the spirit world, I take some stock. The weirdest thing I will ever say is - I am somewhat convinced in my mind that his spirit was repaying me for years of emotionally hurting his daughter. Sh*t, if it was MY daughter, I would haunt that bastard for the rest of his life.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Wow, really moved me as I felt this can all easily happen in life. The comment by your father was spot on, men know men and these types. Fake love is easy to spot imo. Sometimes you can care/miss another but not love as such. True love is rare I feel.

Love is shy and simple,
I sometimes think we accidently (?) crowd it out with our
overcomplicated and often nonsensical dramas.

 

[Joan]

The weirdest thing I will ever say is - I am somewhat convinced in my mind that his spirit was repaying me for years of emotionally hurting his daughter. Sh*t, if it was MY daughter, I would haunt that bastard for the rest of his life.

I think we suffer in the afterlife until we no longer feel revenge, hate, envy, etc. I also don't believe the deceased can affect our lives in any way, good or bad. I used to believe otherwise, though.

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'm a bit needy, I'll admit. That's not always good.*

* Outside the bedroom door.