My Zix Experience - How B6 And Zinc Have Saved My Hair

[worm]

I used to apply this Canadian product that contained zinc suflate + vit b6, azelic acid, and some other vitamins and I never experienced any side effects.
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They don’t disclosure amount of zinc and b6 but I’m questing it’s very small amount.

the thing with zix is it contain very high dosage of zinc. Even 250mg in 4oz of weather. When you apply only 1mg of that solution on your scalp and a small amount gets in the bloodstream than you will have problems. And no, taking 50mg of zinc in a pill is not the same as if 1mg or even .25mg gets to the bloodstream. When you take zinc orally it’s a completely different than when it gets directly to the bloodstream. When you take it in a form of a pill your body will digest it. The amount that is needed will get absorbed and rest will be flashed with urine.

What is that?? I live in Canada too. Im curious, seems to be an interesting product.

What was your experience with it?

On a side note I think you're doing too many things which will likely interfere with zix. So in this case I would drop it. I can tell you that mixing zix and nizoral is a no no for me. Nizoral gives me crazy sleepiness and mild nausea, not to mention shedding - which I suspect is caused by the negative interaction with Zix.

 

[bucksins6x]

What is that?? I live in Canada too. Im curious, seems to be an interesting product.

What was your experience with it?

On a side note I think you're doing too many things which will likely interfere with zix. So in this case I would drop it. I can tell you that mixing zix and nizoral is a no no for me. Nizoral gives me crazy sleepiness and mild nausea, not to mention shedding - which I suspect is caused by the negative interaction with Zix.

I second this, nizoral was bad for me too. I do use zix with ru58841 but not at the same time

 

[Oknow]

I second this, nizoral was bad for me too. I do use zix with ru58841 but not at the same time

It’s called Keto burn

first started thinning after using nizorol

 

[rcom440]

I forgot to mention I also use CU-tripeptide and Caffeine.01%.

 

[rcom440]

What is that?? I live in Canada too. Im curious, seems to be an interesting product.

What was your experience with it?

On a side note I think you're doing too many things which will likely interfere with zix. So in this case I would drop it. I can tell you that mixing zix and nizoral is a no no for me. Nizoral gives me crazy sleepiness and mild nausea, not to mention shedding - which I suspect is caused by the negative interaction with Zix.

it’s Kuroush DHT blocker which also have Laurocopram, Azelaic Acid, and Zinc suflate so it has more Laurocopram and Azelaic Acid than Zinc Suflate. It didn’t give me any side effects. I used to apply it, in a place where I lost some hair, around 30min after I apply Ordinary hair serum and I was able to regrow hair in that place. I would like to make them slightly thicker now. I run out of Koroush DHT blacker so I decided to give zix a try. it go for $55 For a small bottle including shipping to US. Shipping in Canada is much less than shipping to US.
https://kourosh.com/products/dht-blocker
It’s a very small bottle. https://kourosh.com/products/dht-blocker

Kourosh is an old Canadian company. HairLossTalk.com used to sell a couple of their products here.
I’d like to know exact proportion they are using in this product so I could recreate it.

 

[rcom440]

Nizoral 1% keto + 5% minoxidil gave me crazy regrow. I remember when I started using minoxidil I got good regrow then around 9 months after I started using minoxidil, I decided to added nizoral shampoo in a mix and I was surprised of how many more hair I was able to regrow with that combo. I think it still works for me. Nizoral can make you shed some hair - that the indication that treatment is working. It’s perfectly normal but some people get scared and drop it.

It’s possible that there is interaction between zix and 1% ketakonazole but as I said I never had any sides with Kourosh DHT blocker.

 

[rcom440]

What is that?? I live in Canada too. Im curious, seems to be an interesting product.

What was your experience with it?

On a side note I think you're doing too many things which will likely interfere with zix. So in this case I would drop it. I can tell you that mixing zix and nizoral is a no no for me. Nizoral gives me crazy sleepiness and mild nausea, not to mention shedding - which I suspect is caused by the negative interaction with Zix.

Shedding is an indication that treatment is working it doesn’t mean that it is a negative interaction with zix.
You will also go through shed a few week after starting minoxidil - it’s normal.

 

[rcom440]

Hi all,

2 and a half year update using zix.
Hairloss is stable, maintained what I have. I use Zix with LLLT (which helps with regrowth)


Very pleased, think less and less about hair loss now. I am also not worried about doing the things I enjoy, such as working out of the fear it accelerates loss, like I used to be.

working out / heavy weight lifting won’t accelerate hairloss. It’s a myth that it does.
It’s a different story when you intentionally start messing up with you hormones.

 

[Oknow]

working out / heavy weight lifting won’t accelerate hairloss. It’s a myth that it does.
It’s a different story when you intentionally start messing up with you hormones.

Doesn’t working out increase testosterone?

 

[rcom440]

Doesn’t working out increase testosterone?

not to the point that it will accelerate your hair loss. This has been discussed over the years many times and there are some studies. It’s a myth. Working out do not accelerate hair loss.

 

[worm]

Shedding is an indication that treatment is working it doesn’t mean that it is a negative interaction with zix.
You will also go through shed a few week after starting minoxidil - it’s normal.

That's not necessarily true. minoxidil yes, but zix for example shedding decreases, same with finasteride. Sometime shedding is a bad thing. I used keto 15 years ago and it thinned me considerably over the course of a year. When I stopped things thickened right back up.

 

[rcom440]

That's not necessarily true. minoxidil yes, but zix for example shedding decreases, same with finasteride. Sometime shedding is a bad thing. I used keto 15 years ago and it thinned me considerably over the course of a year. When I stopped things thickened right back up.

when you shed for more than 6 months than yes I’d stop it. I know many people who went through shed when starting nizoral then they had nice regrow. There was this guy here on HairLossTalk.com who was using only Nizoral shampoo, he had amazing regrow. I remember he went through crazy shed that lasted a few months.
You can shed on finasteride then you will regrow hair you lost. You can have shed by just changing your regime but like I already said it doesn’t mean you will lose those hair. many people start the treatment get big shade then they get scared and drop the treatment.

 

[sonictemples]

The only possible benefit of Zix against other DHT blockers is how the amount daily that has been applied to scalp can be a negligible amount in the bloodstream to cause any major issues. That being said, one of the people that I know have used the worm's formula for a few months and his blood zinc levels were out of the sky for some reason. Assuming that zinc by itself can be an antiandrogenic substance at the dose that we're using it, it shouldn't be any more side effect free than azelaic acid and even other 5AR blockers. With similar or even superior effect, similar side effects are expected to come. Hence, I believe my theory is correct (Zinc depletes copper, dropping aromatase, decreasing estrogen therefore increasing free test, due to sufficient amount of test, 5AR is downregulated) or zinc is pretty useless without the prevalence of P5P, if that's the case we are pretty much using a natural 5AR blocker that metabolizes in a similar fashion with CB0301. That being said, side effects from azelaic acid seems pretty weird to me, assuming that we don't even know if it can block enough 5AR in the body to cause any noticable damage.

 

[sonictemples]

Your body doesn't produce zinc nor azelaic acid. Some foods have zinc and/or azelaic acid in them. I don't see much of a difference.

 

[Oknow]

not to the point that it will accelerate your hair loss. This has been discussed over the years many times and there are some studies. It’s a myth. Working out do not accelerate hair loss.

can you link me to the studies?

 

[Derelict]

Lol, you don't see the difference in a mineral that your body needs to function and an alien compound that the body does not need?

I don't mean to interrupt your argument but how is zix going for you so far?

 

[sonictemples]

I didn’t give an example in the sense that it’s a necessity for our bodies. Both of the compounds aren’t made in our bodies and both of them are present in everyday foods. Hence, I don’t think azelaic acid is necessarily an “alien substance” since it can be found in wheat itself.

 

[Omega2327]

it may be effective especially when combined with minoxidil. Dr. Lee back in the day was a huge fan of azelaic acid. He used to add it to his liquid minoxidil formula. People used to report better regrow when minoxidil was combined with azelaic acid.

Good sir, I was advocating FOR the use of azelaic acid.

 

[Omega2327]

Agree with worm, azelaic acid is not necessary and in the same category as saw palmetto, etc. And yes I've read about people experiencing fina like side effects from azelaic acid.

I personally just don’t buy this. The study clearly shows its efficacy. If you accept the study as it relates to zix then one should also respect the efficacy of azelaic acid. I haven’t heard of sides from it either. It’s extremely commonly used for acne and I can’t find a shred of evidence online that it causes erectile dysfunction, depression, etc.

 

[Omega2327]

Could you not say the same thing about zix then? True that it is found naturally in the body but I don’t think necessarily that just because it’s not found in the body that it causes side effects. It’s well known for its excellent safety profile. Again the fact that nearly nothing to be found on google about adverse side effects for a drug that is so commonly prescribed is pretty good evidence. I think you are just ultra careful given your experience with finasteride (which I wouldn’t touch).