New Dermaroller Study; Thoughts, comments?

[squeegee]

Good point I guess you would pretty much have to alter your DNA if you wanted to stop it from ever happening. So instead of breaking the chain to hair loss at DHT like finasteride. Rolling breaks the chain by reducing Fibrosis.

Remodeling the fibrotic scalp with the derma roller then prevent the outcomes of Alopecia again with proper maintenance. All it takes is consistency and time.

 

[isishearmyplea]

I'll be a happy SOB if I do!

do you roll just along the hairline or the whole scalp? and why are people talking about rolling under their eyes or on the forehead?

 

[TheShopKeeper]

I've been rolling for around 2 months and I'm sure more scalp is showing through on the areas I've rolled. I know it's still early days and I will keep on with the rolling but has anyone experienced a little thinning before getting results?

One more question, I have quite dry hair (even when I don't wash daily) and I like to continue to add emu oil to my head nightly (excluding the day I roll). Will this pose any major issues?

Squeegee, since you derma roll every three days, when do you use Nizoral? I ask this since it acts as a anti inflammatory.

 

[squeegee]

I've been rolling for around 2 months and I'm sure more scalp is showing through on the areas I've rolled. I know it's still early days and I will keep on with the rolling but has anyone experienced a little thinning before getting results?

One more question, I have quite dry hair (even when I don't wash daily) and I like to continue to add emu oil to my head nightly (excluding the day I roll). Will this pose any major issues?

Squeegee, since you derma roll every three days, when do you use Nizoral? I ask this since it acts as a anti inflammatory.

I went through a massive shed. Every legit treatment is accompanied with a shed most of the time. I switch shampoos all the time .. right now I use Miconazole shampoo at night on the 2nd day and third day. Use some soft shampoos on the first day.

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do you roll just along the hairline or the whole scalp? and why are people talking about rolling under their eyes or on the forehead?

Derma rolling was introduced first to fight aging wrinkles and sagging face. I do the whole scalp and also trying to grow my juvenile hairline so I go as low as possible. Common sense.

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[Jlyncher]

do you roll just along the hairline or the whole scalp? and why are people talking about rolling under their eyes or on the forehead?

It's just easier to monitor progress at the hairline for me, having longer hair. I'm a Norwood 2.5-3ish with thinning throughout. I roll the entire top of my scalp, crown to slightly below hairline, and the entire temple region. I do 5 passes one after the other in rows, until I've covered the entire area on a vertical, horizontal, and both diagonals. And I'm out for blood:firing:

 

[danawhite1]

I've been rolling for around 2 months and I'm sure more scalp is showing through on the areas I've rolled. I know it's still early days and I will keep on with the rolling but has anyone experienced a little thinning before getting results?

One more question, I have quite dry hair (even when I don't wash daily) and I like to continue to add emu oil to my head nightly (excluding the day I roll). Will this pose any major issues?

Squeegee, since you derma roll every three days, when do you use Nizoral? I ask this since it acts as a anti inflammatory.

Im going through a shed now, its the 3rd week in. its weird because even thought im shedding im able to still see some dark hairs sprouting up. they're literally milimeters long so we'll see how they grow out.

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It's just easier to monitor progress at the hairline for me, having longer hair. I'm a Norwood 2.5-3ish with thinning throughout. I roll the entire top of my scalp, crown to slightly below hairline, and the entire temple region. I do 5 passes one after the other in rows, until I've covered the entire area on a vertical, horizontal, and both diagonals. And I'm out for blood:firing:

thanks for the pics! good to see the hair u kept ur eye on grow out. how long before they grew to that length?

 

[Morinohtar]

Like i said before, here's a pic of my head after rolling. Since no one so far (if im not wrong) posted a pic of their head after rolling, then here's one so we can discuss if there's enough blood or do we need to go Apache Mode On and take the scalp off lol

Seriously, pro ppl with rolling (aka squee, etc), is this +/- good, or do we need to roll even more than this?

Pic from cellphone.

 

[theRA]

Like i said before, here's a pic of my head after rolling. Since no one so far (if im not wrong) posted a pic of their head after rolling, then here's one so we can discuss if there's enough blood or do we need to go Apache Mode On and take the scalp off lol

Seriously, pro ppl with rolling (aka squee, etc), is this +/- good, or do we need to roll even more than this?

Pic from cellphone.


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Imo this is ok, btw there were some pics after rolling, i think Hellhouser posted one maybe a month ago or even more

 

[CharlesXavier]

Can growth be achieved without minoxidil and only rolling? I keep reading stuff how the inhibition of collagen can affect the skin and face with wrinkles and dark circles, i was wonderig whats your opinion on this? Is there an alternative to minoxidil? Can i just dermaroll and be good? I dont wanna look like an old wrinkly turd either xD btw i have already started derma rolling with a 1.00mm any suggestions?

 

[Youcandoit]

Can growth be achieved without minoxidil and only rolling? I keep reading stuff how the inhibition of collagen can affect the skin and face with wrinkles and dark circles, i was wonderig whats your opinion on this? Is there an alternative to minoxidil? Can i just dermaroll and be good? I dont wanna look like an old wrinkly turd either xD btw i have already started derma rolling with a 1.00mm any suggestions?

Yes you can, may not be as fast, but I have hairs growing into 4 th week, also had hand surgery and I grew like 40 hair s in hand for some reason, while other hand has few hairs so dermarolling or wounding does something to skin that kicks in hair growth. Also as far as size 1.5 seems good since it will make you bleed, if your not bleeding your not wounding and not creating stem cell hair growth.

 

[Jlyncher]

Im going through a shed now, its the 3rd week in. its weird because even thought im shedding im able to still see some dark hairs sprouting up. they're literally milimeters long so we'll see how they grow out.

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thanks for the pics! good to see the hair u kept ur eye on grow out. how long before they grew to that length?

I've been rolling 16 or 17 weeks. It took a while for those hairs to transition from vellus to pigmented, and then get some length.

Like i said before, here's a pic of my head after rolling. Since no one so far (if im not wrong) posted a pic of their head after rolling, then here's one so we can discuss if there's enough blood or do we need to go Apache Mode On and take the scalp off lol

Seriously, pro ppl with rolling (aka squee, etc), is this +/- good, or do we need to roll even more than this?

Pic from cellphone.



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Looks good to me! A+

Can growth be achieved without minoxidil and only rolling? I keep reading stuff how the inhibition of collagen can affect the skin and face with wrinkles and dark circles, i was wonderig whats your opinion on this? Is there an alternative to minoxidil? Can i just dermaroll and be good? I dont wanna look like an old wrinkly turd either xD btw i have already started derma rolling with a 1.00mm any suggestions?

Theoretically you should still see results just dermarolling, but at a slower pace. I believe it was benjt who tried this(?) with some results. I personally have not seen any negative effects from minoxidil after 10yrs. I would try it and just reduce dosage if you notice any negative sides.

 

[saintsfan92344]

Jlyncher I saw your photos and they are very promising, what is your regimen, you may have posted it in one of the 260 pages and I probably read it but all these posts are kind of blurred together in my mind now I have been reading so much,

 

[danawhite1]

wow the pics here made me realize im doing amateur rolling...its harder because im a norwood one with a receding hairline with thick top. my fourth roll tomorrow im going hard.

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[saintsfan92344]

wow the pics here made me realize im doing amateur rolling...its harder because im a norwood one with a receding hairline with thick top. my fourth roll tomorrow im going hard.

danawhite1, I felt the same way when I saw the pics, I get a few minor blood spots, at least you have had some results though

 

[Breaking Bald]

Jesus, I don't think you need to roll as extreme as that, I stop when I start to see little blood spots. So far I have nothing to report, I've been rolling for about 8 weeks and have not noticed anything major except maybe a bit of thickening but it's hard to tell.

Odbank - How you getting on with the 1.0mm?

Squeegee - Are you actually going to post any pictures? You keep saying you will but never deliver the goods, I'm general interested in seeing your improvement. Surely with all the posting that you do here you have time to take some snapshots and upload them???

 

[casperz]

MSM definitely sped up my hair growth, of course you aren't growing new hair. I stopped taking it because my hair and finger nails were growing too fast, it was a pain having to get my hair cut so often.

I noticed that too, I have to cut my fingernails more than once a week when taking a lot of MSM and haircuts are more often too but I just use a clipper so it's no big deal.

I'm going to back off minoxidil, I had upped mine to 3 times a day and I had an episode last night where I had heart palpitations, fast heartbeat and was dizzy. It was not a good feeling for about 3 hours. I'm very fit so anytime I feel like that I know it's self induced. I've had these symptoms before on 15% minoxidil but never on 5% so I think
with the rolling we are getting much better absorption. I'm off minoxidil for a couple of days and I'll start back up with
2 times a day.

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Like i said before, here's a pic of my head after rolling. Since no one so far (if im not wrong) posted a pic of their head after rolling, then here's one so we can discuss if there's enough blood or do we need to go Apache Mode On and take the scalp off lol

Seriously, pro ppl with rolling (aka squee, etc), is this +/- good, or do we need to roll even more than this?

Pic from cellphone.


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:woot:

holy ****! I'm not doing it anywhere near that. The study did not call for anything that approaching that type of wounding. It could even be counter-productive.

 

[2young2retire]

i do even more than Morinohtar. only with numbing cream offcourse. . my hair is definetely much thicker one month in. cant wait to see what will happen in 3 or 4 month.
keep rolling guys

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every next time i get more blood with same pressure rolling. i give that to the new angiogenesis.also it cant be counter productive cause we wound the hair part that contains the stem cell which is 1mm under. to reach it we must press. also mild erythema as in the study said occurs only after pressing sufficient the roller.

I noticed that too, I have to cut my fingernails more than once a week when taking a lot of MSM and haircuts are more often too but I just use a clipper so it's no big deal.

I'm going to back off minoxidil, I had upped mine to 3 times a day and I had an episode last night where I had heart palpitations, fast heartbeat and was dizzy. It was not a good feeling for about 3 hours. I'm very fit so anytime I feel like that I know it's self induced. I've had these symptoms before on 15% minoxidil but never on 5% so I think
with the rolling we are getting much better absorption. I'm off minoxidil for a couple of days and I'll start back up with
2 times a day.

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:woot:

holy ****! I'm not doing it anywhere near that. The study did not call for anything that approaching that type of wounding. It could even be counter-productive.

 

[opti]

You should go hard in rolling but i dunno if too hard could be bad too. I went hard last time , its day 3 now and my head is still reddish and hurts a littl bit. Still no shedding skin but i guess tommorow it ll Start heavily ( got a realy realy dry skim atm ).i experienced some headaches in the last days and i think that i hit some veins.lets see

 

[squeegee]

Jesus, I don't think you need to roll as extreme as that, I stop when I start to see little blood spots. So far I have nothing to report, I've been rolling for about 8 weeks and have not noticed anything major except maybe a bit of thickening but it's hard to tell.

Odbank - How you getting on with the 1.0mm?

Squeegee - Are you actually going to post any pictures? You keep saying you will but never deliver the goods, I'm general interested in seeing your improvement. Surely with all the posting that you do here you have time to take some snapshots and upload them???

Breaking Balls.. I've been preparing myself to go to the Philippines. I am on a 2 hours notice to go still... I don't have time to put a resume up of my pictures so you see the difference.. I didn't take pictures of my head when I first started the experimental treatment. I would have to use ID cards or something.. I will maybe wait few more weeks so the difference will be more striking.. I don't deliver the goods lol.. ok. Keep rolling and you won't need me to deliver the good.

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Like i said before, here's a pic of my head after rolling. Since no one so far (if im not wrong) posted a pic of their head after rolling, then here's one so we can discuss if there's enough blood or do we need to go Apache Mode On and take the scalp off lol

Seriously, pro ppl with rolling (aka squee, etc), is this +/- good, or do we need to roll even more than this?

Pic from cellphone.


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Good stuff! Squeegee is approving your bloody pumpkin!

 

[albert]

Did someone else notice how Minoxidil is different when applied in wounded areas in terms of absorption? I can feel it extremely different on my temples (like it quickly dries or something like that).