New Dermaroller Study; Thoughts, comments?

[ganonford]

Yeah... it has been discussed before... a lot... but nobody really knows what's up with that... some guys were saying that it was a mistake... that those pics were taken after 8 months not 12 weeks... but nobody really knows... they may very well be completely fake... anyway, many dudes seem to be haveng results (although way less impressive than the ones from the study) and that's a good thing...

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Yep, that's the one I'm using too. Sturdy, and stays sharp.

Is that three thousand dollars...?

Are you guys for real...?

My dermaroller was just like 15 bucks I think...

 

[hellouser]

Is that three thousand dollars...?

Are you guys for real...?

My dermaroller was just like 15 bucks I think...

The price is in Rupees. So like, 34 cents USD.

 

[TMNK]

Is still miss the see the "mind-blowing" results. Some times I have to convince my self that these "before" pictures are better, but honestly it's hard to tell sometimes. Wish the results would be better. Maybe you need to derma roll for at least a year or something..

 

[Jlyncher]

The one problem I have with this study... is the fact that the photos show "regrowth" of well over 1 and a half inches of hair, when hair only grows half an inch per month.

So, in 3 months they got these kind of results ???


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Something just doesn't add up...


... has this issue been addressed and I'm just not aware of it ?


Has anyone had these kind of results after 12 treatments ???



Just curious, and interested in your thoughts.




Thanks

Yeah Terral, it's been discussed quite a bit. Here's a quick copy and paste; Note the picture captions.

"Assessment was done at a different time frame during the study (notably 6 weeks and 12 months as they mentioned, probably more). With microscopic photographic technology hair has to be kept at the same length as day 1 to keep assessment consistent. This picture from the study says it all."

Hair was buzzed back down to baseline for the 12 week assessment(pic b), meaning the pics with longer hair must've been taken much later. That's my take, anyway.

 

[danawhite1]

Is still miss the see the "mind-blowing" results. Some times I have to convince my self that these "before" pictures are better, but honestly it's hard to tell sometimes. Wish the results would be better. Maybe you need to derma roll for at least a year or something..

focus on one or two terminal hairs that started sprouting up in a place that u never saw growth before, and check on those hairs every single day and see if they sprout to at least half an inch. thats how you'll know if dermarolling worked for u or not

 

[TMNK]

Yeah Terral, it's been discussed quite a bit. Here's a quick copy and paste; Note the picture captions.

"Assessment was done at a different time frame during the study (notably 6 weeks and 12 months as they mentioned, probably more). With microscopic photographic technology hair has to be kept at the same length as day 1 to keep assessment consistent. This picture from the study says it all."

Hair was buzzed back down to baseline for the 12 week assessment(pic b), meaning the pics with longer hair must've been taken much later. That's my take, anyway.

I'm not planning to be the negative guy. I'm starting my derma rolling this sunday too. But I think people should be more sceptic about pictures like the above. The right picture doesn't look much (if anything?) better than the left one. The only difference for me is that the hair on the right is longer than on the left picture, and that's the reason why some people have the illusion of "new hairs".

I want to believe. But these pictures doesn't do it for me?

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And it's kind of suspicious that no one have these massive results like these guys:

 

[Bombarie]

THE was a Guy named jason in this thread that really had good results, but he disapeared

 

[2young2retire]

the improvement and regrowth was continuing months after stopping minoxidil+dermaroller which to me makes sense since platelet injections results have generally a similar time frame.

 

[Chromeo]

And it's kind of suspicious that no one have these massive results like these guys:

It's not really suspicious, considering no-one here has been doing this for 12 months yet.

 

[2young2retire]

no one in the study did it for 12 months. they stopped after 3 month mark but results kept increasing till 12 month mark

It's not really suspicious, considering no-one here has been doing this for 12 months yet.

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guys can someone post my results on bald truth talk. the moderator has locked me. lol

 

[Chromeo]

no one in the study did it for 12 months. they stopped after 3 month mark but results kept increasing till 12 month mark

Fair enough, but the idea is that you'd need to be closer to 12 months down the line to see results similar to those ones. What I'm saying is that no-one should expect to have regrown as much hair as these subjects after just three months, because these pictures are not from the three month mark. Whether or not you continue to roll for the full 12 months is up to the individual (I for one will continue rolling for the duration).

That's why no-one has these kind of results to show as of yet. No-one started this regime 12 months ago.

 

[2young2retire]

Chromeo if you keep rolling after 3 month mark tehoritically you will have better results than in the study but at the same time you will sail in foreign waters.to the unknown.

Fair enough, but the idea is that you'd need to be closer to 12 months down the line to see results similar to those ones. What I'm saying is that no-one should expect to have regrown as much hair as these subjects after just three months, because these pictures are not from the three month mark. Whether or not you continue to roll for the full 12 months is up to the individual (I for one will continue rolling for the duration).

That's why no-one has these kind of results to show as of yet. No-one started this regime 12 months ago.

 

[Chromeo]

Chromeo if you keep rolling after 3 month mark tehoritically you will have better results than in the study but at the same time you will sail in foreign waters.to the unknown.

This is true. I don't see why you should stop rolling after 3 months, though. For the purposes of a test, you need a start point and a finish point to measure results. I'm not attempting this merely as a test, I'm taking this regime on board as a full-time treatment for the potential regeneration of my hair. Stopping after 3 months seems like madness to me. Is that what you are doing?

 

[danawhite1]

so wait the pictures from that study was 12 weeks or 12 months? u said these pictures are not from the three month mark but they said it was post treatment 12 weeks. was that false information by them, or did they mean to say 12 months

 

[opti]

i guess they didnt want so say : 12 weeks after treatment, more likely they ment : 12 weeks treated with dermaroller but no exactly date when pics are made. the right pics should be taken several months after DR treatment.All heads got shaved at beginning and i takes many months that hair are getting as long as on the left pics

 

[2young2retire]

not exactly i kind of thought after 13 14 rolls to start rolling even heavier once a month and minoxidil 5 days after and repeat. i also see hair results and its very early and i fear to stopp it. but i am afrraid of minoxidils inhibition to collagen production for my face.i dont know

This is true. I don't see why you should stop rolling after 3 months, though. For the purposes of a test, you need a start point and a finish point to measure results. I'm not attempting this merely as a test, I'm taking this regime on board as a full-time treatment for the potential regeneration of my hair. Stopping after 3 months seems like madness to me. Is that what you are doing?

 

[Chromeo]

so wait the pictures from that study was 12 weeks or 12 months? u said these pictures are not from the three month mark but they said it was post treatment 12 weeks. was that false information by them, or did they mean to say 12 months

This was a bone of contention from the get-go as it seemed highly, highly unlikely that these results were garnered over a mere 12 week period. I believe somebody contacted one of the guys involved in the study and they set a few things straight. The pics were not taken at the 12 week mark but in fact a year or so after the trial, and that the "mild erythema" line was somewhat misleading, as blood was regularly drawn. I found the "post treatment 12 weeks" caption to be highly misleading, as it could lead to people giving up early, or doubting the legitimacy of the study altogether.

i guess they didnt want so say : 12 weeks after treatment, more likely they ment : 12 weeks treated with dermaroller but no exactly date when pics are made. the right pics should be taken several months after DR treatment.All heads got shaved at beginning and i takes many months that hair are getting as long as on the left pics

This is correct. After the 12 weeks of treatment....but exactly how long after is not specified within the paper.

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not exactly i kind of thought after 13 14 rolls to start rolling even heavier once a month and minoxidil 5 days after and repeat. i also see hair results and its very early and i fear to stopp it. but i am afrraid of minoxidils inhibition to collagen production for my face.i dont know

Yeah. We don't know the full effects of these things at the moment, too early to tell.

 

[ganonford]

Maybe those pics are just fake

Or maybe...at the end of the study they say that after 8 months the response was still sustainable, maybe that's when they took those pics...

those results are 8 months seem in line with what some guys seem to be having by now...

 

[saintsfan92344]

basically regarding the 2 shaved pics, 1 was taken at the start, then at 12 weeks the head was reshaved and then the 2nd was taken which does seem to show results, then the hair was left to regrow till the longer haired pics which is still pretty impressive.

From the limited number of people and limited amount of time on "our" study we have had some results, if we had the same cameras 2youngs head may show the same results. he has had a definite amount of thickening in a very short time

2young mind shaving your head for some pics for science of course

 

[2young2retire]

well it was time to dumb ancient treatments like finasteride and minoxidil alone(i sa this for the community my first ever treatment is thsi dermarolling plus minoxidil). i am telling you all. i am estimating i apply force of around 100 newton on the roller. just roll hard deep and in all directions. also some times the next two days i massage the galea and the wounds somehow bleed again. lol like half a minute massage.lol man i want to buzz again(shave is too much) for scientific purposes ofcourse but wait a bit more to my hairline widens enough to not look like penis hairline.now i am 38 days since starting.it will work to all but press hard please.

basically regarding the 2 shaved pics, 1 was taken at the start, then at 12 weeks the head was reshaved and then the 2nd was taken which does seem to show results, then the hair was left to regrow till the longer haired pics which is still pretty impressive.

From the limited number of people and limited amount of time on "our" study we have had some results, if we had the same cameras 2youngs head may show the same results. he has had a definite amount of thickening in a very short time

2young mind shaving your head for some pics for science of course