New Dermaroller Study; Thoughts, comments?

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2young2retire

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11th roll. more emphasys on mid scalp/ this time 10 days passed wince previous wounding session. why am i getting lazy.i need to find motivation.once you get hair you become soft...

not heavy but blood was comming very easier,

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saintsfan92344

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Wash your head before rolling, if any anesthetic cream enters systemic circulation through needling = paralysis and heart arrest

+1, definately shampoo
 

opti

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11th roll. more emphasys on mid scalp/ this time 10 days passed wince previous wounding session. why am i getting lazy.i need to find motivation.once you get hair you become soft...

not heavy but blood was comming very easier,

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u got improvements the last weeks?Looks hairs got thicker but not much new hairs sprouting...scalp is pretty good visible
 

2young2retire

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it is.

90 min post session vessels and arteries keep pumbing liek crazy
Is it me or does it look like your temples are also filling in a bit?

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now guys seriously. skin friction on thinning heads give a solution we proven that. and i believe not a permanent but a mid term one..we need to get our hand on prp injections.
 

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Youcandoit

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just to be clear, you're saying most of your hair has grown back and become terminal? Or are you saying you see a lot of vellus hairs?

Yes I believe all juvenile hairline has grown in give or take a few hairs, and yes they are black and thicker not vellus thin blonde hairs.

update....
so it is week 11 for me, I have regrown all my original hairline pretty much , I have decided to skip this week, the hairs have not taken off and grown with normal hair yet. I am not sure if I will skip next week as well, my Violet ray device came in and I will be stimulating the follicles with the static electricity, 20-25 treatments for 5-10 per day on the scalp, spine. After you do it you can actually feel the electricity in your scalp, I feel energized, it's gotta to be making those cells happy and dancing. I am charging those hair cells given them a boost :)

This is is good to use anyways for energy, when I walk I can feel the electricity in my feet tingling throughout my body and the base of the brain, slight euphoria. The cells are charged so much and vibrate at such a high frequency you can barely sense it besides the tingle.

more info can be read here on it...http://all-ez.com/violet.htm
 

opti

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to sad that my hair got thinned after DR use...lets see what time will show if i get them back
 

Youcandoit

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to sad that my hair got thinned after DR use...lets see what time will show if i get them back

Mine did as well, no need to go fast, go slow and puncture scalp trying not to rip out hairs. When you see small hairs growing in, you will feel so happy
 

saintsfan92344

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to sad that my hair got thinned after DR use...lets see what time will show if i get them back


Opti have you stopped DR completely, applying minoxidil? I am basically in the same boat as you, my hope is based on the study this craze got started with and the fact they stopped at 12 weeks and the real growth happened over the next several months. Even though the study is a little shaky at this point. Like I have stated several times I lose a lot of hair during rolling and 4 days after from shock loss, do you notice that also? I don't think I give my hair a chance to recover rolling weekly.
 

opti

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well last roll was 3 days ago but a soft roll..no blood etc..last real hard rolling sessions was 3-4 weeks ago.i always applied minoxidil after rolling days..switched also to consequent 2x a day minoxidil 5% (i could also have shed now from that).Saw many black hair but also my existing ones grew out thinner and more blonde.

since 2 -3 weeks im shedding now like crazy(200+hair ,most of them are like 2-4 cm long and thick and black).Guess they were mostly my frontal hair. Now my hair looks like diffuse thinned on rolling areas,there are alot of 1-2cm hair but i think they arent fresh growing,they are more likely miniaturising and fall out to grow even more short:/.

started yesterday topical finasteride and will start the next weeks with mini dose oral finasteride,hopefully to get those hair longer again,then my status would be good-

i d say that my temples went like 1 cm diffuse backwards,its more hard now to cover my temples completely.
still hope im in a shed phase or recover phase or sth like that but honestly i think my status worsened .

What i also noticed is that my skin on rolled areas got more thick and on some areas my scalp absorbtion is quite bad.

update : 2pics here one from 11/30 the other one from today
there are different angles but on the one from november i could get my hair better backwards with my hands.

http://epvpimg.com/6iqJb end november

http://epvpimg.com/25ILc now
 

Youcandoit

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well last roll was 3 days ago but a soft roll..no blood etc..last real hard rolling sessions was 3-4 weeks ago.i always applied minoxidil after rolling days..switched also to consequent 2x a day minoxidil 5% (i could also have shed now from that).Saw many black hair but also my existing ones grew out thinner and more blonde.

since 2 -3 weeks im shedding now like crazy(200+hair ,most of them are like 2-4 cm long and thick and black).Guess they were mostly my frontal hair. Now my hair looks like diffuse thinned on rolling areas,there are alot of 1-2cm hair but i think they arent fresh growing,they are more likely miniaturising and fall out to grow even more short:/.

started yesterday topical finasteride and will start the next weeks with mini dose oral finasteride,hopefully to get those hair longer again,then my status would be good-

i d say that my temples went like 1 cm diffuse backwards,its more hard now to cover my temples completely.
still hope im in a shed phase or recover phase or sth like that but honestly i think my status worsened .

What i also noticed is that my skin on rolled areas got more thick and on some areas my scalp absorbtion is quite bad.

Thats weird I experienced no shedding at all, all I noticed was few hairs fell out with rolling, but other than that new hairs sprouted. I don think minoxidil is needed in my opinion, you want your hair to grow natural anyways
 

saintsfan92344

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well last roll was 3 days ago but a soft roll..no blood etc..last real hard rolling sessions was 3-4 weeks ago.i always applied minoxidil after rolling days..switched also to consequent 2x a day minoxidil 5% (i could also have shed now from that).Saw many black hair but also my existing ones grew out thinner and more blonde.

since 2 -3 weeks im shedding now like crazy(200+hair ,most of them are like 2-4 cm long and thick and black).Guess they were mostly my frontal hair. Now my hair looks like diffuse thinned on rolling areas,there are alot of 1-2cm hair but i think they arent fresh growing,they are more likely miniaturising and fall out to grow even more short:/.

started yesterday topical finasteride and will start the next weeks with mini dose oral finasteride,hopefully to get those hair longer again,then my status would be good-

i d say that my temples went like 1 cm diffuse backwards,its more hard now to cover my temples completely.
still hope im in a shed phase or recover phase or sth like that but honestly i think my status worsened .

What i also noticed is that my skin on rolled areas got more thick and on some areas my scalp absorbtion is quite bad.

I noticed the absorption thing also, tried light absorbtion rolling 2x week but that just increased shedding so I stopped, I would say my hair has thinned diffusely but more at the temples, could be that some people are more prone to shockloss than others and need more recovery time, I keep seeing hair sprouting but during a roll they disappear. Several people have brought up similar reactions so it will be interesting to see where this goes.
 

opti

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i hope this is shockloss and not scarring...that would be terrible

btw posted pics ,maybe u can see what i mean with diffsue thinning

PS: still able to cover my temples:p but its hard and i need long hair :/
also im having like penis hair on my side they are like 5x thicker than my other hairs and i can pull them easily out+they dont grow long

http://epvpimg.com/whYff
 

opti

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opti be happy you shed. it means you reset hair cycle. please stay at it.

but why do i shed end of december?i used to start rolling end october/november i guess and had till i went for a trip to florida only like 50hairs a day shed..then it all started :eek:
 

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I would have to respectfully disagree on using ice-packs as a numbing agent. Its a proven fact that ice applied on the skin during laser depilation reduces the chance of paradoxical hypertrichosis (hair growth) which we dont want.
 

Justeone

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See it like a hair transplant .. you usually don't see growth until month 3 or 4 after the procedure . So if you were wounding hard for the 12 weeks then Id expect you to have some good growth after you stop for a few months . Im sure this has been said b4. :) I just finished my 10th week of rolling . loving it so far.. the only time my head itches post roll is when my skin is flaking off from the wounding process . a quick wash takes care of it tho.
 

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See it like a hair transplant .. you usually don't see growth until month 3 or 4 after the procedure . So if you were wounding hard for the 12 weeks then Id expect you to have some good growth after you stop for a few months . Im sure this has been said b4. :) I just finished my 10th week of rolling . loving it so far.. the only time my head itches post roll is when my skin is flaking off from the wounding process . a quick wash takes care of it tho.

I've been rolling since August, so 5 months. I've yet to see the results that Youcandoit, Squeegee and others have claimed to get.
 

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Whats your complete regime hellrouser? after one last bloody roll , You may want to give the rolling a month or 2 break and see if anything happens for you. have you lost hair since rolling or still losing? ive maintained for sure and seeing these blonde hairs growing pretty exciting for me at least... I know of some others here have experienced nothing but others have experienced quite a lot of regrowth. sucks we r different sometimes....haha ..just keep your spirits up hellrouser.pray to god something comes out within the next few years that will give us our hair back .no ****ing transplants tho.... some injectable or wtf is follica doing these days ... probably nothing... but still pray :D
 
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