not really male pattern baldness but interesting - arthritis treatment cures alopecia

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10mg a day the first two months, then 15mg a day. This was tofacitinib though.

Source: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278544.php

Keep in mind that Kyle Rhodes was taking tofacitinib ORALLY, not topically.

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It might be a bit risky for your health to do that experiment on your own... Maybe you can find a doctor and work together on this. These drugs have multiple side effects, and we also don't know what would happen if they enter the scalp directly, as they are supposed to be taken orally.

Notice that on the original experiment there was a team of physicians involved, who did constant tests on the patient to make sure everything was OK.

There was a study done on tofacitinib in topical form with very minimal side effects:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23387374

It actually looks pretty safe.

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Okay, I will see if I can find an online site that sells them, or do you have a reputable one in mind? Despite having heard of PG an everclear, you wouldn't know if it's for sell on California? As I have heard many times on that huge RU thread that it's not legal in some places. Will research though.

Everclear is an american product so you should have NO problem finding it at a liquor store. I got mine in Buffalo at 190 proof (youre going to need 190 proof, do NOT bother with the 151 proof).

PG (propylene glycol) you can buy online here:

http://www.lotioncrafter.com/propylene-glycol-usp.html
 

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Tofacitinib mean systemic exposure was minimal

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23387374

 

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Tofacitinib mean systemic exposure was minimal

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23387374


So you also think this might work as a topical? I think what I'm going to do is my mom to get the prescription since she has arthritis.
 

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So you also think this might work as a topical? I think what I'm going to do is my mom to get the prescription since she has arthritis.

Good luck. You're going to spend thousands of dollars, the drug costs $2,000 per month.

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Interesting discussion:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89978

I used to be a member here a few years back...I was starting to lose quite a bit of hair at the temples at the time. I'd say about 2 or 3 cm in a typical horseshoe pattern. I was on finasteride for a while which seemed to halt my hairloss but I don't think i was on it long enough for any regrowth. I have been off it for at least a year now however. Today, I'm happy to say I pretty much have the exact same hairline as I did when i was in highschool....
I was recently diagnosed with arthritis and put on a medication called sulfasalazine. I have been on it for about 9 months now, and it has helped my arthritis a great deal, however I'm 99% sure it has also completely restored my hairline. I did some reading on it recently and it seems it has been used for this purpose in the past. Just thought I'd let all of you guys know in case it hasn't been discussed here in the past. I'm pretty sure its a LOT more safer than finasteride (i wasn't warned of any side effects when I was subscribed it), and it might help some of you out. Hope this helps!

Looks like arthritis drugs have potential......
 

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We'll only know once this stuff gets TESTED. I wouldn't want to take the stuff orally... eventhough side effects are rather weak, but topically, it could be awesome.
 

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We'll only know once this stuff gets TESTED. I wouldn't want to take the stuff orally... eventhough side effects are rather weak, but topically, it could be awesome.

No, you also need prescription for the cheap alternative. I tried to buy it and thy also want you to fax the prescription. I wouldn't dream of spending $2k a month for that. Anyways, I will try it first topically, then off it doesn't work, maybe orally.
 

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No, you also need prescription for the cheap alternative. I tried to buy it and thy also want you to fax the prescription. I wouldn't dream of spending $2k a month for that. Anyways, I will try it first topically, then off it doesn't work, maybe orally.

I read the thread in entirety: http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89978

Only ONE person (phatal) took sulfasalazine for a long enough period. The only other member to take it (orally) only managed to be on it for about a month or less before throwing in the towel. NOBODY tried a topical form of it.
 

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I read the thread in entirety: http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=89978

Only ONE person (phatal) took sulfasalazine for a long enough period. The only other member to take it (orally) only managed to be on it for about a month or less before throwing in the towel. NOBODY tried a topical form of it.

I read three pages of it, will read the rest later. Well it does seem to be very promising and suggest male pattern baldness is also an immune diss order, which makes sense I guess, maybe like lupus but not so harsh, only on hair?

Phatal seemed to be taking a lot mgs of that med. now I thinking that topical is good, but maybe one tablet a day orally couldn't hurt either? Just to balance things out.

Hellouser, it seems you're going to give it a try, where do you plan to buy it from? As the inhousepharmacy is now requiring prescription and not before.
 

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Interesting article on a more effective natural alternative to sulfasalazine:

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=744661

In the abstract: "The frequency of adverse events was similar in both groups."
and:"
Conclusion: In patients who continued treatment for 24 weeks and could also use stable oral prednisone and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, attainment of the ACR 20 response criteria was significantly greater with TwHF extract than with sulfasalazine."
 

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im not educated in the technical terms. but please help me get this straight.
there is a guy who had male pattern baldness, and he took this med for another problem and it regrew his hairline as a side effect?
 

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I am not talking about the original test subject who had all over body alopecia or whatever that's called but about the quote hellouser provided from a discussion over at HairLossTalk.com
 

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I am not talking about the original test subject who had all over body alopecia or whatever that's called but about the quote hellouser provided from a discussion over at HairLossTalk.com

Yes it seems he did regrow all hair back, even as he got off finadteride.
This is why we need to try this out ASAP
 

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HOPE!!!

so... do we know how it works?
maybe we can isolate the ingredient we need.
does it bind to the receptors? or something else entirely?
 

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Autoimmune makes a lot of sense to me. I have super aggressive hairloss and my scalp is inflamed, itchy and sore. Feels like my body is attacking the follicles.

Maybe the next step would be to speak doctors who specialise in this drug, or try and find a forum for arthritis and hunt down some guys using this drug with hairloss.
 

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Autoimmune makes a lot of sense to me. I have super aggressive hairloss and my scalp is inflamed, itchy and sore. Feels like my body is attacking the follicles.

Maybe the next step would be to speak doctors who specialise in this drug, or try and find a forum for arthritis and hunt down some guys using this drug with hairloss.

Next step is to try it topically. As soon as I get some money, going to buy all these stuff and then record progress.

Anyone willing to donate to my cause? Lol
 

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Is sulfasalazine the same price as Salazopyrin? Or are they the same thing? The only thing holding me back is the money, as I plan to get my mom to get the prescription for me. Broke on medical bills.

Sulfasalazine is the active ingredient in the drug. Salazopyrin is just a brand name for pills that contain sulfasalazine. You'll be fine with just that. Lucky for you, sulfa is pretty cheap.
 

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Got my hopes in this drug.
We need more brave soldiers to try it out tho... So we can see how it works for different kind of male pattern baldness. I would volunteer but cant get the drug from anywhere.

I believe that the cure for baldness is going to be found by normal people through random drug tests like this rather than scientists..

FOR HAIR!
 

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I believe that the cure for baldness is going to be found by normal people through random drug tests like this rather than scientists.

Well, to be fair Dr. Brett King did play a role in this.
 

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Just went to walmart and the pills are not as expensive, 200 tablets of 500mg is roughly $50, don't know how long that will last since might have to apply 2-3 times a day at 100mg per ml? The prescription is obviously going to be the problem though, so will see if I can get around it, I did find it without prescription online but it was one of those 0 Google page rank pages. Don't really trust those and they don't have an SSL certificate anyways.
 
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