"paying For It" By Chester Brown - Tales From Norwood Cemetery

[blackg]

I think Buckthorn is well meaning towards everyone. Sure, he may have chosen he words poorly in this case, Dante, but his heart's in the right place.

Just freaking relax, Dante. You yourself claim to have no social or romantic life.
But when someone else repeats your words, you spew.

 

[buckthorn]

I hope to make lots of people like you suffer in the process

you're too late for that pal

 

[buckthorn]

You know about younger women, yes. By the way, how're things with that woman you just met?

You are too funny--"deteriorating rat's nest." I'm not laughing at your perception of your hair or your mental state, just your analogies.

I told her I was too depressed to continue sexually, but given how well we get a long, I really want to remain friends. I know that's sh*tty, but oh well. I was optimistic when I buzzed my hair down, because it didn't look too bad, but now it's gotten to the point in the last couple months where I cringe at being in front of someone I care about, even with concealers. It's happening so quick, don't really know how to respond this time, because it's legit over. Not a single treatment works.

"a true coward is a man who summons a woman's love with no intent of loving her back" While the intent was there, the capacity was not. I had to.

I have Telogen Effluvium again, from severe injuries this time playing sports. we all know Telogen Effluvium is like a death sentence to someone with male pattern baldness in general... to someone that responds negatively to treatments? It's the final nail in the Androgenetic Alopecia casket.

I hope that once I work up the nerve to completely shave it off, she will still be attracted to me and HOPEFULLY, we can try something. But, this sh*T is way too f*cked up right now to give my self to someone. No one wants to receive a person that's this messed up.

 

[Dante92]

you're too late for that pal

Oh, I don't think so.

 

[buckthorn]

Oh, I don't think so.

you have no idea how much I hate myself.. attempt to make it worst, I dare you. I am untouchable. I am at the bottom. The thought of death doesn't even scare me in the slightest. not at all. I wish you luck my fellow nemesis.

 

[buckthorn]

Oh, I don't think so.

Also, I wasn't trying to pick on you or be ironic.. I don't bully people dude. I just state what I am thinking. If it's full of garbage that makes sense, because my mind is full of garbage. I apologize if I came across as a d*ck.

 

[jd_uk]

I told her I was too depressed to continue sexually, but given how well we get a long, I really want to remain friends. I know that's sh*tty, but oh well. I was optimistic when I buzzed my hair down, because it didn't look too bad, but now it's gotten to the point in the last couple months where I cringe at being in front of someone I care about, even with concealers. It's happening so quick, don't really know how to respond this time, because it's legit over. Not a single treatment works.

"a true coward is a man who summons a woman's love with no intent of loving her back" While the intent was there, the capacity was not. I had to.

I have Telogen Effluvium again, from severe injuries this time playing sports. we all know Telogen Effluvium is like a death sentence to someone with male pattern baldness in general... to someone that responds negatively to treatments? It's the final nail in the Androgenetic Alopecia casket.

I hope that once I work up the nerve to completely shave it off, she will still be attracted to me and HOPEFULLY, we can try something. But, this sh*T is way too f*cked up right now to give my self to someone. No one wants to receive a person that's this messed up.

If you like her... Give it another go. Let her see you bald or at least buzzed with no concealers. Expose yourself and learn to feel good in other ways. The window of opportunity to get any decent looking woman is small...she will have other offers all the time and you may end up regretting it. That said, if you really think she's the dort of womsn to care about your hair much then don't waste your time on her.

 

[buckthorn]

don't frankly care about you

You love me Dante, as I love you.. lets not hide it anymore. everyone on here already knows. Now put on a long brunette wig and some lipstick and come get me already.

 

[Dante92]

You love me Dante, as I love you.. lets not hide it anymore. everyone on here already knows. Now put on a long brunette wig and some lipstick and come get me already.

Sorry Jesse, but

 

[buckthorn]

If you like her... Give it another go. Let her see you bald or at least buzzed with no concealers. Expose yourself and learn to feel good in other ways. The window of opportunity to get any decent looking woman is small...she will have other offers all the time and you may end up regretting it. That said, if you really think she's the dort of womsn to care about your hair much then don't waste your time on her.

You always give solid advice. The fact is, I myself would never want to date a person in my situation. It's not just the hair loss, although that is the biggest thing. She is one of those genuinely good people, that goes out of her way for those around her. I know there is a decent probability that if I shaved it to a zero she might stick around. It's not that. As cliche as it sounds, one really does have to be content with their life to truly give love to another. Not totally blissfully happy, but content with who they are. Another cliche - she deserves no less.

 

[buckthorn]

Sorry Jesse, but

well, you used the best scene in the best show ever! nice.

 

[Dante92]

well, you used the best scene in the best show ever! nice.

One of my many unappreciated talents.

 

[buckthorn]

One of my many unappreciated talents.

well damn, I appreciate it. I love that show. One of the primary reasons that show was so successful can be applied to this forum - it depicts people in reality. Notice how the majority of the older men are balding or bald. Mike, Hank, Saul even has a combover going on. I mean, Mike is a truly unattractive man, but because he is so bad *** on one end, and a good man towards his family on the other end, it makes him a really relatable character.

More shows / movies need to be like this. Hollywood - stop casting only NW1's and bald people as villains. Stop being a complete f*cking dick face.

 

[buckthorn]

Curious, some of the best series ever (Sopranos, Breaking Bad), have many interesting bald/balding characters portrayed by fantastic bald/balding actors, unfortunately they're quite rare, the majority of them are full of perfect looking guys who can't even be called actors (see jon snow's actor and daenerys' actress).

Bald men can definitely portray super powerful positions

 

[buckthorn]

I said I get revenge on peple LIKE you, good-looking guys who pretend to show empathy only after THEY suffer from a certain condition or problem.

I have never been like that though.. so, that's why this statement is confusing. Me and all my siblings were weird looking and unattractive growing up. I was short and fat as hell. I was bullied in school until I was 16. One kid would always push me in the mud outside the portable. Senior year I got lean, put on muscle and returned the favor. I held his face in the mud until he almost choked to death in front of the entire school. That wasn't even because of me, it was because he would still pick on my best friend who was very over weight.

I never knew I was attractive brah... it took like 10 girls force feeding that down my throat before I could even gain any confidence with it. Not to give you a life story, i am just trying to say your statements don't apply to me. No, I will never know what it was like to bald at a young age. But, I know what it's like to be so critically hard on my physical being that I spend all day in the woods avoiding people. That's what most my ife has been like. That, and failed relationships that would have been amazing if I wasn't so insecure. Good looks are nothing if you can't use them and it's complete sh*T that in the years you learn how, you start to lose all your hair.

 

[cocohot]

I have never been like that though.. so, that's why this statement is confusing. Me and all my siblings were weird looking and unattractive growing up. I was short and fat as hell. I was bullied in school until I was 16. One kid would always push me in the mud outside the portable. Senior year I got lean, put on muscle and returned the favor. I held his face in the mud until he almost choked to death in front of the entire school. That wasn't even because of me, it was because he would still pick on my best friend who was very over weight.

I never knew I was attractive brah... it took like 10 girls force feeding that down my throat before I could even gain any confidence with it. Not to give you a life story, i am just trying to say your statements don't apply to me. No, I will never know what it was like to bald at a young age. But, I know what it's like to be so critically hard on my physical being that I spend all day in the woods avoiding people. That's what most my ife has been like. That, and failed relationships that would have been amazing if I wasn't so insecure. Good looks are nothing if you can't use them and it's complete sh*T that in the years you learn how, you start to lose all your hair.

You should go to a therapist, it's clearly that childhood oppression that makes you hate your own appearance so much that you don't want to experience life.

I think all of us are crazy on this forum. I keep saying it but 7 billion people on this planet, english is the universal language and yet only about 10 regulars posting about hairloss.

 

[buckthorn]

You should go to a therapist, it's clearly that childhood oppression that makes you hate your own appearance so much that you don't want to experience life.

I think all of us are crazy on this forum. I keep saying it but 7 billion people on this planet, english is the universal language and yet only about 10 regulars posting about hairloss.

I agree. I have gone to a therapist all last year and might consider it again. They just cannot help me. I don't mind being in public too much. It's the constant thought of never being able to be in a relationship and have kids that plagues me.

My therapist will be Dr. Erdogan. I am tired of this sh*t and am not going to resort to coping for too long. I filled out the consult form. Hopefully he will have openings in nov or dec and I will get 6000 fue done in multiple mega sessions. I will fly to Turkey and spend three to four weeks there. By this time next summer I will have a diffused head of permanent hair and will leave it buzzed.

 

[buckthorn]

Imagine being repeatedly bullied, humiliated and, on top of that, receive the same treatment from every single girl, just like if you were some freak. A good-looking guy who had my same personality was literally sorrounded by girls, who considered him "cute and mysterious" even though he suffered from social phobia. So don't tell me that good looks are nothing, even if you can't use them you'll have many women, as it happened to you. Your experiences are frankly nothing compared to being rejected and humiliated for 24 years. 24 years of endless humiliation and rejection.

that wasn't my point at all. Read the post I was responding to. You stated I had no empathy towards unattractive people because you somehow assume I am attractive. I CAN imagine. That's WHY I actually do have empathy.

 

[cocohot]

I agree. I have gone to a therapist all last year and might consider it again. They just cannot help me. I don't mind being in public too much. It's the constant thought of never being able to be in a relationship and have kids that plagues me.

My therapist will be Dr. Erdogan. I am tired of this sh*t and am not going to resort to coping for too long. I filled out the consult form. Hopefully he will have openings in nov or dec and I will get 6000 fue done in multiple mega sessions. I will fly to Turkey and spend three to four weeks there. By this time next summer I will have a diffused head of permanent hair and will leave it buzzed.

Yeah but in the meantime you need to be able to live life, whether it's medication from a therapist that allows you to function in life or something else, you need to do something because you can't throw away an entire year.

 

[cocohot]

Imagine being repeatedly bullied, humiliated and, on top of that, receive the same treatment from every single girl, just like if you were some freak. A good-looking guy who had my same personality was literally sorrounded by girls, who considered him "cute and mysterious" even though he suffered from social phobia. So don't tell me that good looks are nothing, even if you can't use them you'll have many women, as it happened to you. Your experiences are frankly nothing compared to being rejected and humiliated for 24 years. 24 years of endless humiliation and rejection.

How tall are you and what do you weigh? Can you grow facial hair?

Are you sure the bullying and low social status isn't the real reason women didn't want anything to do with you?

Your command of english is incredible by the way.