"paying For It" By Chester Brown - Tales From Norwood Cemetery

[samantha3333]

I was not mocking you.

I just find it interesting how you were talking about having high standards in an earlier post.

"A guy has to be this and that" like I said. And then you admit to have dated a man who treated you like sh*t for 2 years.

"High standards."

Right.

Until the right guy comes along, then they all go out the window.

I know my standards after dating an ***. I hope the girls you dated now know better too.

 

[cocohot]

If anything these last two pages show how similar men and women can be, the only difference is that for a woman in her early twenties there will always be boyfriends, Dante doesn't have that luxury so his life is that much worse than yours.

I do agree you're working to help yourself is something he needs to do too. Fred was in big trouble like you and Dante a few years ago and has picked himself up by working very hard, He even failed a year in university over depression like you. So rather than arguing with him you should try and be more like him.

 

[cocohot]

Isn't it too late? I'm 24, before i can see any result I'll already be a 30-year-old virgin. I'm afraid I don't haved the time nor the money to do it, and there's no guarantee I'll achieve any real result.

How will it be too late?
Tan= instant,
braces=1 year will bring "normal" teeth, although perfect teeth will take longer.
hair transplant=6 months,
bodybuilding= 6 months to a year. You're only trying to look "normal"

 

[Saurabhaj]

I have told this multiple times:


Also look at 100's of answer's on Quora..

Women don't always expect a good looking guy,most girl's want an okay looking guy with no flaws like:
1)short
2)Too tall
3)obese(I am not talking about little overweight,which is not flaw)
4)Thin AF.
5)Women don't care about look's,just average looking is enough,but make sure you are not ugly looking.
6)Hairloss,which type of hairloss:
when your hairloss goes off or you have big bald circle over crown.

and to be honest,
take of India as an example:
80/90 percent of same social class satisfies this criteria.

I have seen 8s/9s looking average face joes,people comments he did not look handsome,but no one thinks that such girl selected a guy who was without a flaw.

To say women don't care about looks is wrong..really wrong.

Once my female friend told me that her and his future partner combination needs to be suitable or nice..


Interestingly,in the last few years,out of 10 bald guy new marriages,only 2/3 are getting good looking girl.

Social pressure is too much..
Comments like best couple,made for each other couple,couple No 1,
Perfect Couple,Combination made in Heaven..
Every single female have this things in Mind when they are going to make ultimate decision..

 

[CaptainForehead]

Isn't it too late? I'm 24, before i can see any result I'll already be a 30-year-old virgin. I'm afraid I don't haved the time nor the money to do it, and there's no guarantee I'll achieve any real result.

Not really.
Braces: 2 years
Weight training: 2 years
These two things are all you need to get back into the normal category. I'm not saying girls will suddenly flock to you, but at least you will not be viewed negatively for being a corpse.

Psychologists say that people usually adjust to an improved standard of life, with their happiness levels returning to the baseline. Except for plastic surgery where the effects are lifelong. Braces and weight training, being aesthetics related, fall under the same category. I have been viewing myself more positively once I got my teeth fixed at 30.

You're 24, so young. I wish I hadn't spent my 20s in a depressed state, shirking work and self improvement.

 

[resu]

Teeth is number #1 priority, it will change your face and how people perceive you but if you claim you're ugly then don't expect miracles.

I also hate this idea that all 20 years olds are out partying and screwing around with hot chicks and having the time of the their lives all day every day. It's another false, near impossible to meet expectation for most although it's true for some.

 

[DoctorHouse]

I wish I could be optimistic and tell you Buckthorn as you age it only gets easier but it doesn't. If your mindset stays the same it actually gets worse. I would say I have a similar thought process to both you and shook. We all think alike but I am the older version of both of you. However, in my case, hair was not my main issue until the last 11 years. I had so many image problems that developed as a kid when I was bullied so much that I become this guy that hated how I looked. I had this total obsession to make myself better so I joined a gym and was able to build a decent upper body but my legs were my downfall. I had these long legs with no calves. I tried all my best to get the calves to look normal but I could not because I had horrible short muscles. I won't wear shorts now because I have spider veins, moles, and pale legs with hair loss on them too. I also had melanoma(skin cancer) on my leg in my 20's so its a great excuse not to wear shorts. Had the spider veins removed but they come back. Too many moles to remove. I hate my legs. Thought about calves implant but not going to do that to my legs as it won't change how shitty they look. And I hate 90 percent of men who have great legs and get to wear shorts. And I admire men who have the balls to wear shorts with prosthetic legs. True, I can cover my legs better than someone can conceal hair loss but it still makes me feel less about myself.

That is just the beginning. I can go on and on but my point is all you can do is age the best you can. If you still have a great body, then maintain it. Focus on that. If you need help from Erdogan, then get it. However, no matter what you do to your image on the outside, age will keep trying to take away everything you have worked so hard to maintain. And you will always keep hating the genetic freaks who can defy age without any effort. Those thoughts of envy will kill your soul. You have to learn to be less critical of yourself but how can anyone do that when their mindset has been the same all their life. That is why like I said before, you have to find something that takes your mind off yourself to find some enjoyment. If you can't do that then I understand why death seems so appealing for some. But then you have people worse off than you, who will trade places because they have lived "rock bottom" all their life. You, shook, and myself have never been unfortunate to live "rock bottom" from birth so we are "spoiled" somewhat. I don't know shook's story but I was bullied during my developmental years like you Buckthorn due to my legs, acne, and skinny body. Those scars have remained including the mindset damage it did. However, its up to you to overcome them somehow. If you can't you will be alone but it will be your choice to be alone. I truly believe there is someone out there with similar insecurities that will understand you better than anyone else and accept you the way you are now. However until you can accept yourself, you are right in not wanting to place that burden on someone you admire unless they want the burden. This place has become group therapy for all us but it still will never be enough when reality sets in and you get a glimpse at the genetically gifted. That will tear you right back to "rock bottom", back to your habitual mindset you suffer from day to day. Therapy is only going to be tool how to deal with this mindset but it is never going to stop us from being who we truly are and how we think.

 

[samantha3333]

If anything these last two pages show how similar men and women can be, the only difference is that for a woman in her early twenties there will always be boyfriends, Dante doesn't have that luxury so his life is that much worse than yours.

I do agree you're working to help yourself is something he needs to do too. Fred was in big trouble like you and Dante a few years ago and has picked himself up by working very hard, He even failed a year in university over depression like you. So rather than arguing with him you should try and be more like him.

lol, try and be more bitter about life and insult people along the way you mean?
No thanks.

 

[samantha3333]

Whta do you guys think of him?

It's weird that I usually can't be motivated by extreme cases. I find it difficult to relate to them.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Thank you @cocohot @CaptainForehead , you're both correct it's not like I can simply rot away. I must react. I must, however, first find the motivation to react, not for girls (I have already given up on them as I said, mostly due to finasteride), but for myself. First of all, I must try to do something for my serious depression. But I'll not get delusional, I'm ugly and I can't do nothing about it, but that doesn't mean that I'm condemned to a miserable life.

Dante, there will be moments you will fall again, but there will be moments you will conquer just like you did in this post. I am rooting for you.

 

[Dante92]

Dante, there will be moments you will fall again, but there will be moments you will conquer just like you did in this post. I am rooting for you.

Thank you very much, Doctor. I appreciate it. I only hope to be rooting for myself, as well.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Thank you very much, Doctor. I appreciate it. I only hope to be rooting for myself, as well.

In your last, post, you already did.

 

[buckthorn]

Looking like that at 24 as a celebrity is TOUGH I can tell you! Celebrities tend to be more obsessed with looks. When you're surrounded by strict 10/10s in Hollywood, this kiddish look will place you at the bottom of the food chain.

Awe man... you're right, that is super tough!! poor kid.. oh

I wish I could be optimistic and tell you Buckthorn as you age it only gets easier but it doesn't. If your mindset stays the same it actually gets worse. I would say I have a similar thought process to both you and shook. We all think alike but I am the older version of both of you. However, in my case, hair was not my main issue until the last 11 years. I had so many image problems that developed as a kid when I was bullied so much that I become this guy that hated how I looked. I had this total obsession to make myself better so I joined a gym and was able to build a decent upper body but my legs were my downfall. I had these long legs with no calves. I tried all my best to get the calves to look normal but I could not because I had horrible short muscles. I won't wear shorts now because I have spider veins, moles, and pale legs with hair loss on them too. I also had melanoma(skin cancer) on my leg in my 20's so its a great excuse not to wear shorts. Had the spider veins removed but they come back. Too many moles to remove. I hate my legs. Thought about calves implant but not going to do that to my legs as it won't change how shitty they look. And I hate 90 percent of men who have great legs and get to wear shorts. And I admire men who have the balls to wear shorts with prosthetic legs. True, I can cover my legs better than someone can conceal hair loss but it still makes me feel less about myself.

That is just the beginning. I can go on and on but my point is all you can do is age the best you can. If you still have a great body, then maintain it. Focus on that. If you need help from Erdogan, then get it. However, no matter what you do to your image on the outside, age will keep trying to take away everything you have worked so hard to maintain. And you will always keep hating the genetic freaks who can defy age without any effort. Those thoughts of envy will kill your soul. You have to learn to be less critical of yourself but how can anyone do that when their mindset has been the same all their life. That is why like I said before, you have to find something that takes your mind off yourself to find some enjoyment. If you can't do that then I understand why death seems so appealing for some. But then you have people worse off than you, who will trade places because they have lived "rock bottom" all their life. You, shook, and myself have never been unfortunate to live "rock bottom" from birth so we are "spoiled" somewhat. I don't know shook's story but I was bullied during my developmental years like you Buckthorn due to my legs, acne, and skinny body. Those scars have remained including the mindset damage it did. However, its up to you to overcome them somehow. If you can't you will be alone but it will be your choice to be alone. I truly believe there is someone out there with similar insecurities that will understand you better than anyone else and accept you the way you are now. However until you can accept yourself, you are right in not wanting to place that burden on someone you admire unless they want the burden. This place has become group therapy for all us but it still will never be enough when reality sets in and you get a glimpse at the genetically gifted. That will tear you right back to "rock bottom", back to your habitual mindset you suffer from day to day. Therapy is only going to be tool how to deal with this mindset but it is never going to stop us from being who we truly are and how we think.

hey, nice post man. I "conquered" the rest of my insecurities a while ago. At least to the point where they did not inhibit my life one bit. I felt secure dating hot women. I would see friends and family regularly and travel all the time. I have always had an attractive face. Nice jaw line, tan, big eyes, etc.. and for that I am very lucky. The body took a LOT of work and I will continue to keep it up as I age. I love working out and playing sports, it keeps me sane. I have large shoulders and chest and very large arms from working on houses all the time. I would never complain about my body, despite my horrible metabolism.

I never had an issue with the natural aging process. I don't care if I get wrinkles. Hair loss is the one thing in this life that has conquered me. You're right, this has gone on too long and I need REAL solutions. finasteride, dutasteride, ru, etc.. don't work. I am booking an hair transplant with Erdogan hopefully for this winter if he can fit me in. I am sick and tired of this bullsh*t.

-How old are you Dr. House?

 

[Joan]

Whta do you guys think of him?

It's weird that I usually can't be motivated by extreme cases. I find it difficult to relate to them.

If that isn't true love, I don't know what is. What a beautiful little family.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Awe man... you're right, that is super tough!! poor kid.. oh


hey, nice post man. I "conquered" the rest of my insecurities a while ago. At least to the point where they did not inhibit my life one bit. I felt secure dating hot women. I would see friends and family regularly and travel all the time. I have always had an attractive face. Nice jaw line, tan, big eyes, etc.. and for that I am very lucky. The body took a LOT of work and I will continue to keep it up as I age. I love working out and playing sports, it keeps me sane. I have large shoulders and chest and very large arms from working on houses all the time. I would never complain about my body, despite my horrible metabolism.

I never had an issue with the natural aging process. I don't care if I get wrinkles. Hair loss is the one thing in this life that has conquered me. You're right, this has gone on too long and I need REAL solutions. finasteride, dutasteride, ru, etc.. don't work. I am booking an hair transplant with Erdogan hopefully for this winter if he can fit me in. I am sick and tired of this bullsh*t.

-How old are you Dr. House?

I just hit a half a century this year. Joan and I are up there but we feel young at heart so we relate to you guys. By the way, after reading that last post, you are doing way better than you think. Once you fix your hair, you will be genetically gifted again.

 

[Joan]

I just hit a half a century this year. Joan and I are up there but we feel young at heart so we relate to you guys. By the way, after reading that last post, you are doing way better than you think. Once you fix your hair, you will be genetically gifted again.

Belated happy birthday wishes, DH. You can now officially join AARP.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Awe man... you're right, that is super tough!! poor kid.. oh


hey, nice post man. I "conquered" the rest of my insecurities a while ago. At least to the point where they did not inhibit my life one bit. I felt secure dating hot women. I would see friends and family regularly and travel all the time. I have always had an attractive face. Nice jaw line, tan, big eyes, etc.. and for that I am very lucky. The body took a LOT of work and I will continue to keep it up as I age. I love working out and playing sports, it keeps me sane. I have large shoulders and chest and very large arms from working on houses all the time. I would never complain about my body, despite my horrible metabolism.

I never had an issue with the natural aging process. I don't care if I get wrinkles. Hair loss is the one thing in this life that has conquered me. You're right, this has gone on too long and I need REAL solutions. finasteride, dutasteride, ru, etc.. don't work. I am booking an hair transplant with Erdogan hopefully for this winter if he can fit me in. I am sick and tired of this bullsh*t.

-How old are you Dr. House?

Belated happy birthday wishes, DH. You can now officially join AARP.

Thanks, Joan, I heard you get a 50 percent discount with AARP for hair transplants so I am so happy now.

 

[Dante92]

In your last, post, you already did.

That's good. I hope.

 

[resu]

The power of the NW1:

Now imagine these guys luck if they were balding. I'm sure Fred will come here saying the looks match but I don't think they do, guys get the short end of the stick and that's it. If you're short it's though, if you're short and bald... you might as well forget it.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Imagine being repeatedly bullied, humiliated and, on top of that, receive the same treatment from every single girl, just like if you were some freak. A good-looking guy who had my same personality was literally sorrounded by girls, who considered him "cute and mysterious" even though he suffered from social phobia. So don't tell me that good looks are nothing, even if you can't use them you'll have many women, as it happened to you. Your experiences are frankly nothing compared to being rejected and humiliated for 24 years. 24 years of endless humiliation and rejection.

You're not the only person here who was endlessly humiliated and rejected.

You are, as far as I can tell, the person who gave up the fastest.