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striker9 said:
I don't know, I just wash mine 2 - 3 times a week.
Empire is in the right path. Courage dude.
My arguments :
- My Derm told me that washing hair daily prevent hair loss because he belives that sebum is the cause of hairloss.
- My theory : DHT is not directly responsible of hair loss : it enhances sebum amount in the scalp .So the main cause is sebum.
Why stress causes hairloss? It's the same mechanism that causes acnee : it increases sebum secretion in the skin. Some people get acnee and others ger hairloss.
Women have lots of sebum but don't lose hair why?? because they keep hair long so sebum will go through hair and leave the skin (sry i can't find the right word becoz my english is bad) so women and people with long hair lose less hair.
Nizoral was never an anti androgenic it's working because it cleans the scalp.
My arguments :
- My Derm told me that washing hair daily prevent hair loss because he belives that sebum is the cause of hairloss.
- My theory : DHT is not directly responsible of hair loss : it enhances sebum amount in the scalp .So the main cause is sebum.
Why stress causes hairloss? It's the same mechanism that causes acnee : it increases sebum secretion in the skin. Some people get acnee and others ger hairloss.
Women have lots of sebum but don't lose hair why?? because they keep hair long so sebum will go through hair and leave the skin (sry i can't find the right word becoz my english is bad) so women and people with long hair lose less hair.
Nizoral was never an anti androgenic it's working because it cleans the scalp.
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any updates?
1. Bull :woot:Kaizer said:
2. Bull once again. The active ingredient in Nizoral is a mild DHT inhibitor, which is half of what makes Nizoral anyway. The other half is it uber cleans the scalp at the cost of it losing moisture.
You didn't...Empire said:
Ok, I'm seriously starting to get mad as hell right now. I can't beLIEVE this f***ing bullsh1t. F***! Now Propecia can accelerate hair loss? What's next? Minoxidil doing the same? And if anti-androgens are doing the opposite of their purpose, guess that makes Nizoral trash as well. I've about had it. If I come to realize years later that I've been wasting hundreds of dollars on treatment, I will start suing some companies (if I'm mad enough...). Quite stupid if you ask me. I hate the human body for all it's worth.
I know this is the case for some, but I sure as hell do not want to develop reflex hyperandrogenwutsitcalled.
For the sake of all Propecia users, can someone explain how someone may be suffering from reflex hyperandrogenicity when it could just be that he is a "non-responer", or his male pattern baldness is too extreme for the Propecia to treat? I mean Christ, whoever has that then must mean Propecia is doing the opposite for them, INCREASING DHT, essentially. That is beyond the realm of stupidity.
For the record, I'm half Egyptian. Not that it has to do with anything.
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seaback said:
Take a look at my regimen, after using the oils, I noticed around 80% less hair fall and this has continued since I first started using the oils in mid February. I don't use a proven scientific method, but I see results in terms of reduced hair fall.
Peace,
it doesn't matter if the treatment is natural, synthetical , proven or not... the important think that the man is happy with his treatment. Nobody can claim that he has got the truth about hairloss. The only truth that we have to test all treatments to find the most efficient one for oneself. Let's wish good luck to everybody and support each other. Courage Empire!!
it doesn't matter if the treatment is natural, synthetical , proven or not... the important think that the man is happy with his treatment. Nobody can claim that he has got the truth about hairloss. The only truth that we have to test all treatments to find the most efficient one for oneself. Let's wish good luck to everybody and support each other. Courage Empire!!
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Well done Empire for having the will and patience to try out a emperimental treatment. If everyone on this forum did this, who knows what we could discover?
Anyways, I'm not to sure if this treatment would apply to me. I have dry skin. I never break out in pimples etc. Recently my skin has become more moisturized and is feeling good at the moment. I don't see Accutane doing anything for me. Although I am interested in the fact that it has eliminated your scalp itch. I have chronic scalp itch in which it seems nothing can be done to alleviate it.
Anyways Good luck in your treatment and keep us updated. One last question: You obviously shower , what do you use to wash your hair at the moment?
Nizoral?
Anyways, I'm not to sure if this treatment would apply to me. I have dry skin. I never break out in pimples etc. Recently my skin has become more moisturized and is feeling good at the moment. I don't see Accutane doing anything for me. Although I am interested in the fact that it has eliminated your scalp itch. I have chronic scalp itch in which it seems nothing can be done to alleviate it.
Anyways Good luck in your treatment and keep us updated. One last question: You obviously shower , what do you use to wash your hair at the moment?
Nizoral?
Agree with who?Old Baldy said:GGXX, breathe deeply, exhale, breathe deeply, exhale..............breathe deeply, exhale.
I agree with you. Calm down!!
Edit: I guess you mean me...well do you agree that hyperandro is messed up or is it something else I said?
And sorry about the last post, if it offended anyone. I mean, I just wish there was a way to completely determine if we were gaining or thinning.
Guess I'm getting myself a mapper (or whatever the heck is used to measure miniaturization).
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GGXX: I agree with the conclusion that understanding all of the variables and variations inherent in male pattern baldness can be VERY frustrating.
Right now there is no cure for male pattern baldness. That's frustrating to me and, I assumed, frustrating to you also.
Right now there is no cure for male pattern baldness. That's frustrating to me and, I assumed, frustrating to you also.
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Just to say, there are a few more replies on this thread about Accutane which I made earlier:
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/long-t ... try2578222
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/long-t ... try2578222
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goten574 said:
LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE HAS THICKENED HAIR WITH ACCUTANE!
oli girl on that forum wrote:
"I wasn't on a low dose,but my hair was thicker and grew alot while I was on it,and then 4 months after I stoped it started thinning and falling out some. It's now thinner then when I started the med."
Sounds like a minoxidil effect.
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Empire said:
Indeed, but that's one person, now find a few dozen more :innocent:
Kero said:
I think doses that high will cause hair loss, not hair regrowth