RIKEN Announcement: Succeeded in Developing Tech for HF Regenerative Medicine: Study to be Published Feb 10

[Joxy]

Of course, no one wants to implant mutated cells, not only in japan they want to avoid that.

You have a thing called scar tissue, I don't know if hair transplaints can handle scar tissue, so if you already have done some procedures i don't think the "endless transplant" idea is going to work.

But high density is a problem in relation to blood flow, it have been shown before, and high density we are talking +200 pr cm2 and not the 60 - 70 pr cm2

There is very little chance that iPSCs will became cancerous.

Plus, in 2020 there were couple of breakthroughs by scientists how to clone iPSCs without spending months in labs.

Customized programming of human stem cells

Induced pluripotent stem cells (iPS) have the potential to convert into a wide variety of cell types and tissues. However, the 'recipes' for this conversion are often complicated and difficult to implement. Researchers have now found a way to systematically extract hundreds of different cells...

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[nahte42]

Clinical trials will last at least 2-3 years, but this procedure it will be only for limited number of people in next 10 years. Firstly, it will be only in Japan. Secondly, if other companies wants to translate this technology in their countries must spend years of clinical trials and training doctors to do the procedure properly.

What happened to the talks of just a few months clinical trials?

If we’re talking years, I’m gonna have to tune out again for my own good. Have life to try my best to live. I’ll be 40 by the time this could be available to me and by then I guarantee you I won’t care nearly as much about having hair anymore. I’ll be glad if it’s available for my kids, if I find a woman good enough to have them with.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

What happened to the talks of just a few months clinical trials?

If we’re talking years, I’m gonna have to tune out again for my own good. Have life to try my best to live. I’ll be 40 by the time this could be available to me and by then I guarantee you I won’t care nearly as much about having hair anymore. I’ll be glad if it’s available for my kids, if I find a woman good enough to have them with.

You will care for hair even in old age. Do not refuse it lol. Hair makes people look even younger than they are.

 

[1919]

What happened to the talks of just a few months clinical trials?

If we’re talking years, I’m gonna have to tune out again for my own good. Have life to try my best to live. I’ll be 40 by the time this could be available to me and by then I guarantee you I won’t care nearly as much about having hair anymore. I’ll be glad if it’s available for my kids, if I find a woman good enough to have them with.

What it means is the closer we get to it the more comfortable people are to getting earlier transplants with a higher number of grafts.
With the increasing popularity of anti-aging technology, we will soon be expected to look 20 at 40. I hope I dont care about my hair or looks by that time but Im starting to feel like extreme vanity is the direction we are headed.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

if we should have learned one thing, it will never come as you imagine it. I bet in the end it will have to do a phase two study and a multi-year observation. After the study started in 2023. Certainly not available until 2027-2030. Take care of your life. Make the best of yourself f*** hair.

But yeah xD what have we been expecting!? Lol cure is always 5 years away

 

[baldlygoing]

I was 24 when I joined this site. I’m 43 now, and I still care. Lol

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I was 24 when I joined this site. I’m 43 now, and I still care. Lol

I wonder how often people claimed by then that we are close... lol

 

[pegasus2]

I wonder how often people claimed by then that we are close... lol

I think ten years ago everyone thought we'd be cured by now with the excitement from Intercytex and Aderans. Because of that everyone has given up hope. The treatments from Tsuji, Stemson, and Tissuse are a lot more advanced so the chances are higher this time that at least one of them will make it. I would be surprised if Tsuji doesn't get the money he needs, and then after phase 1 he will have access to all the money in the world.

 

[Chads don't bald]

I was 24 when I joined this site. I’m 43 now, and I still care. Lol

Holy sh*t you weren't kidding, joined in 2002. I was literally 3 years old in 2002 lol.

I'm also surprised that 1. You only have 144 messages in almost 20 years on the site (lol) and 2. You still remember your password

 

[frank33]

I was 24 when I joined this site. I’m 43 now, and I still care. Lol

When you joined Propecia was a recent breakthrough lol.
And iPSC weren't even succesfully cultured yet.

 

[Tom4362]

Holy sh*t you weren't kidding, joined in 2002. I was literally 3 years old in 2002 lol.

I'm also surprised that 1. You only have 144 messages in almost 20 years on the site (lol) and 2. You still remember your password

I was 4 years old laughing at my dads bald spot, good times...

 

[coolio]

First rule of hair loss club: You will never stop caring about it.

Transplant docs do surgeries on guys in their 50s and 60s all the time.


It's tempting to think "There are lots of older guys won't don't care about hair loss." But there are many younger guys who don't care about hair as much as you do now. And some of those older guys are lying, or had to struggle to come to grips with it.

If you are on this forum then you already care more than most guys. Don't expect that to change.

 

[nahte42]

Yeah I was careful to say I will care less in 15 years; but will still care to some degree of course.

 

[Catagen]

It's not exactly about caring or not caring but rather balding strongly handicaping your life. The earlier you get it the worse it is.

Indeed, losing your hair in your teens/early 20s has nothing to do with losing it at 40.

 

[Chads don't bald]

I was 4 years old laughing at my dads bald spot, good times...

Ah the circle of life. How the tables have turned!

Lets hope there won't be a bald spot for your kids to laugh at in the future lol

 

[nahte42]

It's not exactly about caring or not caring but rather balding strongly handicaping your life. The earlier you get it the worse it is.

Yeah but as a young 20s guy should I roll over and die in the dirt because of it, or try to ignore it as much as possible and maximize everything else in life?

 

[BurningCoals]

Balding is godawful at any age, but it is definitely worse the younger you are. There are people whom have literally started balding at 12-13, you can't argue that's the exact same as balding in your 40s or 50s. You end up sticking out much more in appearance from your peers, and you don't have experience or development to tackle on such a dramatic and appearance-altering event like balding.

But it is still bad when you are older, I would definitely not be fine with it at any age. Hair is important for self-image and identity no matter how old you are. I don't like it when people say mature balders don't deserve sympathy because it's "natural for them", you're just pulling a "balding is normal for men you should just accept it because of that" argument, which is ridiculous.

 

[nahte42]

I don’t disagree with all that above, but let me tell you something as a 25 year old who started balding at 15 and lost almost all my hair by 22:

My academic and career journey has not been negatively affected. The only people I’ve “lost” or failed to bond with are extremely superficial, immature, unintelligent people. So no loss there at all. I don’t like those kind of people anyway, so if they don’t want to associate with me because I have no hair, that’s a blessing in disguise. Their character is low and I want to be as far away from them as possible anyway. The people are in my life are the most caring, intelligent, mature, driven, valuable, and meaningful people I’ve crossed paths with, and for that I am thankful.

 

[coolio]

My point was not whether you are entitled to care about losing hair at a young age.

My point was that just being here proves you care about it more than average. You probably always will.

There are some guys who lose hair in their teens/20s and never visit these forums or try any meds. They are the ones who won't care at all when they are older. That won't be any of us.

 

[Flamingflaps]

Regarding caring less as you get older, in my case, I still care a whole lot. I was 19 in 2004, with a receding hairline and feeling desperate. Thanks to this forum, I jumped on propecia relatively early and now have hair that would be considered good for my age. I still come here everyday though, hoping for the magic bullet that will restore my hairline. I do feel as though I’ve wasted a lot of time worrying about this, but I just can’t help it.