Ah please, I'm not going to start going into the "looks Vs personality" merry go round I've been sucked into countless times on here.
Looks are very important initially, personality plays a role quickly as well. Is personality as important? Over all no I don't believe so, but in some cases yes, there's no need to get so black or white about it.
I've known legit 9/10 Chad's who were useless with women, I mean chicks would be there practically on a plate, but he'd manage to f*** it up. Not even necessarily by being totally autistic, but just not having a free flowing and flirty vibe for literally the 2mins she gave him and she'd get bored and that'd be it.
Of course people will argue "well if she really wanted the D she would've applied herself more as women do" but I've seen it too many times, even felt it myself when a girl was interested but I was feeling anxious or introverted for some reason.
And the opposite side of this? The amount of times I, or guys I've known, have punched above their weight with a girl who was in no way interested, but after lengthy discussion was won around.
Sorry Bateman but I legit think a lot of the "personality??!? HA" dudes don't have a clue how to talk to women, not to get personal but I feel this is normally the case. No doubt shitty aesthetics can make personality irrelevant, but the same thing can happen with shitty personality making aesthetics irrelevant, everything is a bit more complicated than how you view it. An average looking guy who can talk to girls, make them laugh, appear fun and popular, will obviously stand a better chance than the exact same average guy who's in the corner staring at his shoes.
Pretty much agree - my crutch when I was young was that I was too nice to get laid.
In fairness, I was too shy to get laid. I barely approached 5 women until I was 24. I came out of my shell a lot more around 25 and made up for lost time.
Too shy probably, too nice can be harmful as well.
Only true aesthetic God's can get away with being a total arrogant douche and women will still love it, but we can't be too vanilla either. It's boring. It also says to women "he'd be a nice boyfriend
for a friend of mine maybe" not "I want him to take me home and bend me over the couch".
So if you're a total dick you won't get anywhere but you have to not be a door mat either and show you're a real person with challenging thoughts, there's a bit of dominance required.
your personality isn't crappy just because women aren't turned on by it. vast majority of women would be turned off by my personality because i'm very sensitive but in a general context its extremely helpful. i can empathize well with it and know how to be as nice as possible.
It's a good distinction so just to be clear, I mean crappy personality in terms of chatting up women. Like the aforementioned Chad's, these were/are my friends, and genuinely nice people, funny, interesting, all that sh*t, and they don't represent any of it when they nervously make no sense babbling to women uncomfortably.
