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Afro_Vacancy

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I find it funny how a lot of girls take Tinder seriously. I was in a FWB with this one girl (she was like a 6-7 face but fairly chubby), she used to brag to me about all the "hot" guys she was matching with on Tinder. I don't think she realizes that most guys literally say "Yes" to every girl as long as she isn't stupidly fat and/or like a 3/10.

Matches are not a tremendous achievement.
 

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Loser. This is today's generation.


Likes, and matches indicate there value.

I will stick to the basics of what matters in life - Being ripped, healthy and having a massive bank account.

Keep your likes, and matches.

You're sounding particularly pissed off lately. Is everything all right?
 

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Oh, cant forget the half-*** leg work out guys. the guilty conscience type of liftee.

leg extensions, and hamstring curls with texts in-between sets. Lot's of water breaks, and gum flapping with other guys lifting.

A couple weak tier leg press, and they are done for the day.




Legs are one of those days where you can become an absolute freak. Endure, and embrace the pain. Eventually you adopt a liking for the pain, and look forward to pushing passed your limits. it's a love, and hate relationship but the only muscle group where you truly feel like you are transcending into a stronger version of yourself. it's hurts but you like it.
 

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Loser. This is today's generation.


Likes, and matches indicate there value.

I will stick to the basics of what matters in life - Being ripped, healthy and having a massive bank account.

Keep your likes, and matches.
What do you consider to equate to a massive bank account? I make close to six figures with no debt but I feel "average" financially.
 

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A good leg day:

Squats, not on the smith machine
deadlifts
lunges or 45 degree leg press
leg curl
leg extension
standing calf
 

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What do you consider to equate to a massive bank account? I make close to six figures with no debt but I feel "average" financially.
First, and foremost not being in debt.

You can make six figures, but how much money do you owe, and want principle amount do you own. We need to break down.

How much credit card, & loan debt do you have?

We have to factor all this in consideration for what someone is worth.

I believe the most important part is to be financially stable, and not owe out a lot of money.

shook are you on propecia ?
close to four years now.
 

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Don't do the leg extension machine if you want to heave healthy knees in later life. A couple of surgeons told me they would have them banned from gyms with the amount of bodybuilders/weightlifters they see coming for knee replacements at a young age. Once the back of the patella has become roughened and starts clicking/grinding then it is a one way street towards arthritis.
 
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Don't do the leg extension machine if you want to heave healthy knees in later life. A couple of surgeons told me they would have them banned from gyms with the amount of bodybuilders/weightlifters they see coming for knee replacements at a young age. Once the back of the patella has become roughened and starts clicking/grinding then it is a one way street towards arthritis.
Is it not squats doing that?

The guys I know with injuries focus on the old school Olympic lifts
 

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Don't do the leg extension machine if you want to heave healthy knees in later life. A couple of surgeons told me they would have them banned from gyms with the amount of bodybuilders/weightlifters they see coming for knee replacements at a young age. Once the back of the patella has become roughened and starts clicking/grinding then it is a one way street towards arthritis.


 

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Don't do the leg extension machine if you want to heave healthy knees in later life. A couple of surgeons told me they would have them banned from gyms with the amount of bodybuilders/weightlifters they see coming for knee replacements at a young age. Once the back of the patella has become roughened and starts clicking/grinding then it is a one way street towards arthritis.

I never heard that in my life and i have been doing weights on and off for 25 years.

Unless they are hyper extending then its just because they are doing it wrong.

Wrong form yo can hurt yourself doing anything..lifting more weight than you can handle can hurt yourself doing anything
 

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Pretty sure a physical therapist has a better understanding of human movement & bio mechanics then all of us combined.
 

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Yeah the way "HE" is doing it is wrong. He's clearly hyper extending on the extension an the angle of the machine is awful

Nope. Think about it - it's maybe better to look at a video of how the patella moves over the knee. With an exercise like the leg extension your patella is being pulled as hard as possible into the groove which it slides within. Behind the patella you have articular cartilage but over time, with heavy loads this can start to soften...and just like hair loss it a one way progressive street (grade 1, grade 2, grade 3...up to 4). It's wear and tear a.k.a osteoarthritis and once you get to grade 4 then that is bone on bone and a future of pain and knee replacements. There is no effective treatment yet for repairing the cartilage. Once the softening begins then you have to be careful. Some people can be lucky and have genetically strong articular cartilage, others not so. Either way, form isn't the issue. It is the exercise itself. In fact, when a surgeon is diagnosing wear and tear in the knee, they ask you to sit on a table with your legs hanging off the edge of the table and slowly raise it (exactly as you would on a leg extenstion machine). Noise or a grinding feeling, also known as crepitus, indicates damage. The reason they put you in this position for diagnosis is because this position pulls the patella tightest into the groove. Now imagine what the increase in load is when you add weights and the damage can be done in this same position.

Do them if you want, but you have been warned.
 

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Pretty sure a physical therapist has a better understanding of human movement & bio mechanics then all of us combined.

You would be surprised. I could reel off a nice list of sports injuries I've had in the past. I've had 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinions on some where each PT has disagreed with the other. Half of them haven't a clue what they are talking about and make it up on the spot.
 

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Is it not squats doing that?

The guys I know with injuries focus on the old school Olympic lifts

Actually, really heavy squats wouldn't be recommended by an orthopedic surgeon either but even a lot of them will understand that some people are very into sports/bodybuilding etc and there is a trade off to be made between general health and joint health. You will struggle to find any that recommend leg extensions though. Vid below explaining more...

 

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Don't forget jogging too. I used to run a sh*t load when in my late teens into my 20's.
I'd run 10 km 3 times a week every week. Did this for a number of years. At the time it felt great. But now, going on 41 my knees aren't the greatest any more. And I just quit playing soccer too. I played on a team for the past 15 years and called it quits this year.
It's just not worth wearing your knees out. Your gonna need them through out your entire life.
I want to have great mobility when I'm in my 70's and beyond (if I make it that far).
Every time I see someone jogging now, I kinda cringe. There is so much pounding on your knees when you run for a long time.
 
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