Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

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Does it have to be DHT resistant? If it's cheap and easy to apply, just...do it every few months to offset loss. Better something than nothing.
We're talking about cloned hairs that have to be individually implanted by a surgeon, not a topical. It's not going to be cheap or easy to apply.
 

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Does it have to be DHT resistant? If it's cheap and easy to apply, just...do it every few months to offset loss. Better something than nothing.
I think we should consider that others products probably will be in the market to treat hair loss too. Like GT20029 or Breezula.
Then we should keep the new hair for a lot years, maybe not need to repeat the procedure.
 

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You will literally never be able to grow (perfect) hair. I wouldn't like to do the procedure just for a little grown out buzz cut lol.

Edit; nobody knows if it will even grow on the scalp (if it is indeed not androgen resistant) for androgenetic alopecia patients.
I'm sure the Stemson team wouldn't try and commercialize this product and spend millions on something they don't believe is going to be favourable for androgenetic alopecia. Hamilton said himself the number one goal are people who suffer from androgenetic alopecia, why? Because they make up the majority out of all the hair loss groups, hence where the bulk of the market is. The primary market is not for burn victims, cancer patients or Alopeica Areata. Even combined they don't compare to the numbers of those with Alopecia. Don't worry about whether or not this will work on Alopeica patients, let's see how it works on the skin model of a pig and then worry about how long the procedure needs repeating. Think of this as in "infinite hair transplant, but with potentially better hair follicles", are hair transplants designed for Alopecia? Of course.
 

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So really and effective method will involve a procedure (likely one that’s ongoing, over years/decades), and no pill form methods from these companies...?
 

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No idea what you're tying to say
He is basically asking if this method is legit and effective and if the result will last for many years to come -> a one-time procedure.

- Yes.

And if there's any further treatment given by, in this case; Stemson Therapeutics, for the patients... Yes, the third product in their pipeline is a treatment to maintain the cells.

@nachos Did you mean that? Lol
 

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He is basically asking if this method is legit and effective and if the result will last for many years to come -> a one-time procedure.

- Yes.

And if there's any further treatment given by, in this case; Stemson Therapeutics, for the patients... Yes, the third product in their pipeline is a treatment to maintain the cells.

@nachos Did you mean that? Lol
Lol ah I see, if Stemson offer free top ups then I wouldn’t be worried about maintenance. Or if they’re incredibly cheaper. But I do feel like the hair that continues to fall (the native ones) you’ll need top ups for those areas.
 

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He is basically asking if this method is legit and effective and if the result will last for many years to come -> a one-time procedure.

- Yes.

And if there's any further treatment given by, in this case; Stemson Therapeutics, for the patients... Yes, the third product in their pipeline is a treatment to maintain the cells.

@nachos Did you mean that? Lol
Would that third product involve surgery, or would it be taken orally/topically? Just to be real, I’m poor as f***. So I worry about any realistic probability that I could even afford some $2000 surgery, let alone anything significant
 

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Would that third product involve surgery, or would it be taken orally/topically? Just to be real, I’m poor as f***. So I worry about any realistic probability that I could even afford some $2000 surgery, let alone anything significant
This is still a few years away, but it's moving in the right direction. You can still save up as much as you possibly can and go from there.
 
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Would that third product involve surgery, or would it be taken orally/topically? Just to be real, I’m poor as f***. So I worry about any realistic probability that I could even afford some $2000 surgery, let alone anything significant
Prob topical.

You gotta save a lot for the sake of hair bud.
 

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Prob topical.

You gotta save a lot for the sake of hair bud.
I can't even afford rent. Not sure what I'm even going to do this month. It's not easy with no college degree, to even afford to live. So I should probably hop on that first...

The possibliity to get my hair back seems further and further away...
 

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Lol ah I see, if Stemson offer free top ups then I wouldn’t be worried about maintenance. Or if they’re incredibly cheaper. But I do feel like the hair that continues to fall (the native ones) you’ll need top ups for those areas.
the topic rolled over a million times, if the treatment is to be effective new hair should stay for the rest of your life, what kind of medicine is this when you have a bald head every few years?
 

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I honestly wish the best for you my man
Thank you so much. That really means a lot to me. I know it's completely out of nowhere, but I've been going through probably the worst time in my life right now, dealing with my girlfriend passing, a pet passing, losing my job, among other substancially awful things. I don't mean to just put all that out there, but I just want you to know just how much those words mean to me at a time like this. Thank you so much.
 

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no one knows how much new cloned hair will remain on the head, because from where? after all, no man has ever tried this procedure on himself
 

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no one knows how much new cloned hair will remain on the head, because from where? after all, no man has ever tried this procedure on himself
Since it is cloned hair, I think the "amount" is not a problem. But the quality is.

The hair should be stable and have the same physical characteristics of the others in the respective region of the scalp that it will be inserted. I think it is more important than if the hair will be resilent to DHT, since we already have some other products to deal/slow down the DHT effect.
 

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One thing I'm curious about is who will succeed first when comparing Yokohama University to Stemson.

I particularly like Stemson's approach, it is more general, like Alexey said.
But I think a regeneration using hair follicle germs is something more doable in the short term.
 
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