Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

[Pls_NW-1]

But Stemson is primarily designed for androgenetic alopecia?

for all kind of hair loss* it replaces/restores your hair.

The problem with hormonal hair loss is that they always fall off by time. I hope we gather some more info the coming months/years about their tech, so we can evaluate if it works for androgenetic alopecia as much as it would for other types of hair loss.

They could overcome this issue if they use the occipital's cells as base, imo.


Edit: It primarily will work! I hope you get my point. And I as well hope that I do not sound rude or anything like that 2u.

 

[Norwoody]

We were just joking....

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[Keratinpro]

for all kind of hair loss* it replaces/restores your hair.

The problem with hormonal hair loss is that they always fall off by time. I hope we gather some more info the coming months/years about their tech, so we can evaluate if it works for androgenetic alopecia as much as it would for other types of hair loss.

They could overcome this issue if they use the occipital's cells as base, imo.


Edit: It primarily will work! I hope you get my point. And I as well hope that I do not sound rude or anything like that 2u.

Lol why would you sound rude? You're gucci. I understand what you're saying but let's see what happens in the coming months on their procedure.

 

[froggy7]

Lol why would you sound rude? You're gucci. I understand what you're saying but let's see what happens in the coming months on their procedure.

stemson didnt answer the main question - will new hir be dht resistant, and will they stay for rest of our life

 

[trialAcc]

stemson didnt answer the main question - will new hir be dht resistant, and will they stay for rest of our life

Probably because it doesn't matter for their business? The population of people who have such aggressive hair loss that going bald again would be a concern is very small, and then even for those people it just means more sales to Stemson in the long run. Most people who get this procedure will be filling in crowns, frontal sections or temple points and that will last them for the lifespan of the hair follicle.

I don't know why you guys are focusing or wasting your time on pages and pages of debating whether the follicles are DHT resistant when we don't even know the life cycle length of a cloned follicle. These follicles might die on their own before DHT can harm them, and at that point who cares if they are DHT resistant because you're going to need another procedure even if these are 100% resistant follicles.

I understand that the procedure will be expensive and you want your money's worth, but if this process works and you get a restored full head of hair for 10~ years even you are not going to give a sh*t if they fall out again. Prices will drop and it will be even more affordable the second time, or who knows, there might be a pharmaceutical cure by then. Just focus on if the product works or not and don't argue useless semantics.

 

[Keratinpro]

Probably because it doesn't matter for their business? The population of people who have such aggressive hair loss that going bald again would be a concern is very small, and then even for those people it just means more sales to Stemson in the long run. Most people who get this procedure will be filling in crowns, frontal sections or temple points and that will last them for the lifespan of the hair follicle.

I don't know why you guys are focusing or wasting your time on pages and pages of debating whether the follicles are DHT resistant when we don't even know the life cycle length of a cloned follicle. These follicles might die on their own before DHT can harm them, and at that point who cares if they are DHT resistant because you're going to need another procedure even if these are 100% resistant follicles.

I understand that the procedure will be expensive and you want your money's worth, but if this process works and you get a restored full head of hair for 10~ years even you are not going to give a sh*t if they fall out again. Prices will drop and it will be even more affordable the second time, or who knows, there might be a pharmaceutical cure by then. Just focus on if the product works or not and don't argue useless semantics.

On top of that Alexey did say that follow ups would be extremely cheap or even perhaps free.

 

[Keratinpro]

I just cant stop thinking how life is going to be when hairloss would be somthing you can recover 100% . Its pretty much my dream at this point . I really hope stemson would make it.

 

[froggy7]

Probably because it doesn't matter for their business? The population of people who have such aggressive hair loss that going bald again would be a concern is very small, and then even for those people it just means more sales to Stemson in the long run. Most people who get this procedure will be filling in crowns, frontal sections or temple points and that will last them for the lifespan of the hair follicle.

I don't know why you guys are focusing or wasting your time on pages and pages of debating whether the follicles are DHT resistant when we don't even know the life cycle length of a cloned follicle. These follicles might die on their own before DHT can harm them, and at that point who cares if they are DHT resistant because you're going to need another procedure even if these are 100% resistant follicles.

I understand that the procedure will be expensive and you want your money's worth, but if this process works and you get a restored full head of hair for 10~ years even you are not going to give a sh*t if they fall out again. Prices will drop and it will be even more affordable the second time, or who knows, there might be a pharmaceutical cure by then. Just focus on if the product works or not and don't argue useless semantics.

for 50k$ i want permanent cure, not something temporary

 

[froggy7]

I just cant stop thinking how life is going to be when hairloss would be somthing you can recover 100% . Its pretty much my dream at this point . I really hope stemson would make it.

yea imagine spending 50k for hair and they fall out after 2 years......

 

[trialAcc]

yea imagine spending 50k for hair and they fall out after 2 years......

Then it's not designed for you, it's designed for rich people. People spend tens of thousands of dollars on hair transplants that look terrible with lack of coverage and continued thinning. You work with what you have available, the price tag is irrelevant.

 

[froggy7]

Then it's not designed for you, it's designed for rich people. People spend tens of thousands of dollars on hair transplants that look terrible with lack of coverage and continued thinning. You work with what you have available, the price tag is irrelevant.

not that if someone is completely bald, will new hair fall out again? we don't know that, Alexey mentioned something about continued hair loss, but what did he mean? if you're losing your original sensitive hair that's okay, but as far as the cloned hair is concerned, that doesn't sound good

 

[Keratinpro]

Stemson posted yet another job listing yesterday, I think they're wanting two cell culture technicians perhaps?

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[trialAcc]

Stemson posted yet another job listing yesterday, I think they're wanting two cell culture technicians perhaps?

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Probably closed their funding round or are close to doing so. Seems like they have more financial freedom now with the 4-5 jobs posted in the last few weeks and 0 before for months.

 

[Keratinpro]

Probably closed their funding round or are close to doing so. Seems like they have more financial freedom now with the 4-5 jobs posted in the last few weeks and 0 before for months.

I agree with you my friend

 

[Super Metroid]

Probably because it doesn't matter for their business? The population of people who have such aggressive hair loss that going bald again would be a concern is very small, and then even for those people it just means more sales to Stemson in the long run. Most people who get this procedure will be filling in crowns, frontal sections or temple points and that will last them for the lifespan of the hair follicle.

I don't know why you guys are focusing or wasting your time on pages and pages of debating whether the follicles are DHT resistant when we don't even know the life cycle length of a cloned follicle. These follicles might die on their own before DHT can harm them, and at that point who cares if they are DHT resistant because you're going to need another procedure even if these are 100% resistant follicles.

I understand that the procedure will be expensive and you want your money's worth, but if this process works and you get a restored full head of hair for 10~ years even you are not going to give a sh*t if they fall out again. Prices will drop and it will be even more affordable the second time, or who knows, there might be a pharmaceutical cure by then. Just focus on if the product works or not and don't argue useless semantics.

If a hair follicle starts to miniturize at 30 and complete dies at 35, it took 15-20 years of prime testosterone / dht production to do so. If that follicle would start completely over at 35, the hormone levels from that age till 50-55 would not be the same and therefore, logically would not achieve the same effect. From that point on, the process would be slower and slower and I doubt whether the hair will even fall out eventually.

It is another thing if you were bald by age 20. Then the pattern is so strong that you likely would have to do the procedure over and over.

 

[trialAcc]

If a hair follicle starts to miniturize at 30 and complete dies at 35, it took 15-20 years of prime testosterone / dht production to do so. If that follicle would start completely over at 35, the hormone levels from that age till 50-55 would not be the same and therefore, logically would not achieve the same effect. From that point on, the process would be slower and slower and I doubt whether the hair will even fall out eventually.

It is another thing if you were bald by age 20. Then the pattern is so strong that you likely would have to do the procedure over and over.

That's what I'm saying, but what percentage of people who lose their hair lose it at 20~? Maybe 5-10% tops? Actually bald at 19-22? Under 5% for sure.

Anyways, I still don't think it matters. If this literal revolutionary technology works in humans, the last thing people are going to be concerned about is if they need to replicate the process unless that also comes with significant costs. People are just going to be happy that a solution exists if they want one.

The more the process needs to be repeated, the cheaper it will have to be each time anyways.

 

[eeyore]

Probably closed their funding round or are close to doing so. Seems like they have more financial freedom now with the 4-5 jobs posted in the last few weeks and 0 before for months.

I like this positive and hopeful interpretation of their listings.

That's what I'm saying, but what percentage of people who lose their hair lose it at 20~? Maybe 5-10% tops? Actually bald at 19-22? Under 5% for sure.

Anyways, I still don't think it matters. If this literal revolutionary technology works in humans, the last thing people are going to be concerned about is if they need to replicate the process unless that also comes with significant costs. People are just going to be happy that a solution exists if they want one.

The more the process needs to be repeated, the cheaper it will have to be each time anyways.

Yeah I just want there to be a cure first before I start worrying about things like price, durability, etc. Doesn't matter if it's via drugs or hair cloning, and whether it's inconvenient or expensive.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

If a hair follicle starts to miniturize at 30 and complete dies at 35, it took 15-20 years of prime testosterone / dht production to do so. If that follicle would start completely over at 35, the hormone levels from that age till 50-55 would not be the same and therefore, logically would not achieve the same effect. From that point on, the process would be slower and slower and I doubt whether the hair will even fall out eventually.

It is another thing if you were bald by age 20. Then the pattern is so strong that you likely would have to do the procedure over and over.

If that would be the case, baldness wouldn't exist. The hair follicle gets over time more sensitive due to genetic predisposition. It's like -> aging. The genetic × hormone combo plays a big role.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

That's what I'm saying, but what percentage of people who lose their hair lose it at 20~? Maybe 5-10% tops? Actually bald at 19-22? Under 5% for sure.

Anyways, I still don't think it matters. If this literal revolutionary technology works in humans, the last thing people are going to be concerned about is if they need to replicate the process unless that also comes with significant costs. People are just going to be happy that a solution exists if they want one.

The more the process needs to be repeated, the cheaper it will have to be each time anyways.

I'm probably in the lower 1%'s yikes! XD

 

[Norwoody]

Stemson posted yet another job listing yesterday, I think they're wanting two cell culture technicians perhaps?

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