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Because the mechanisms for resetting cell health and outright extending their maximum lifespan are vastly different. I've heard all of the top longevity guys talk about how these are massively different problems, and that we have much more insights into prolonging healthy cell span rather then actual lifespan.

If I'm not mistaken, the main challenge will be neuron/brain cells. We could probably figure out ways to extend the human body for hundreds of years, but research into how to reset and prolong neurons is decades behind.
Well they've already reset an entire optic nerve, I wouldn't say resetting neurons is decades behind. The main issue would probably be resetting without making the neurons lose its connections.

And yes curing aging is more than just resetting all the cells in your body. This explains what we need to fix in our bodies to reverse aging. https://www.sens.org/our-research/intro-to-sens-research/

Most of these approaches are already in preclinical stage or clinical trials.

As for prolonging lifespan, we have already been able to do that in mice. There are dog aging projects going on right now which use gene therapy on dogs which may prolong their lifespan as well. It's only a matter of time before this research translates to humans as well.
 

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Well they've already reset an entire optic nerve, I wouldn't say resetting neurons is decades behind. The main issue would probably be resetting without making the neurons lose its connections.

And yes curing aging is more than just resetting all the cells in your body. This explains what we need to fix in our bodies to reverse aging. https://www.sens.org/our-research/intro-to-sens-research/

Most of these approaches are already in preclinical stage or clinical trials.

As for prolonging lifespan, we have already been able to do that in mice. There are dog aging projects going on right now which use gene therapy on dogs which may prolong their lifespan as well. It's only a matter of time before this research translates to humans as well.
The leap between "they've already done it" and it being preformed regularly on every person globally with success is a massive jump, but I get that they are making strides across the board. I still don't think non-machine integrated immortality will exist within our (extended) life times, primarily due to the lack of resources and loss of control that would occur if that were a reality.
 

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The leap between "they've already done it" and it being preformed regularly on every person globally with success is a massive jump, but I get that they are making strides across the board. I still don't think non-machine integrated immortality will exist within our (extended) life times, primarily due to the lack of resources and loss of control that would occur if that were a reality.
if anything happens during our life, do not be under the illusion that it is not for us, but for the rich, what is the point in extending everyone's life?
 

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I like those discussions about immortality and stuff, but I guess that I will be rdy to go after 85+ years old. I guess that having a longer lifespan will be part of of being healthy in the future, but it is not something I would be anxious about...

If my grandchildren ask me the new IPhone 80 Plus Plus because it is way faster and the camera is still way better than the old IPhone 79s, I will just grab a gun and shoot myself.

Another reason to kill myself: "But daddyyy, the new Playstation 15 runs on 32k... My old Playstation 14 just runs on 28k...".

Would at least my dick work? Can I have my sexual robot from Westworld or will it be politically incorrect? I don't know... I would probably go full berserker at some point in time to keep things interesting, but after that life would be boring as hell.
 
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I will never get bored with life, but old age, baldness, ugliness are disgusting ailments, I will invest in cryonica, I would like to be reborn in a different body, beautiful, perfect and sparkling with youth
 

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I like those discussions about immortality and stuff, but I guess that I will be rdy to go after 85+ years old. I guess that having a longer lifespan will be part of of being healthy in the future, but it is not something I would be anxious about...

If my grandchildren ask me the new IPhone 80 Plus Plus because it is way faster and the camera is still way better than the old IPhone 79s, I will just grab a gun and shoot myself.

Another reason to kill myself: "But daddyyy, the new Playstation 15 runs on 32k... My old Playstation 14 just runs on 28k...".

Would at least my dick work? Can I have my sexual robot from Westworld or will it be politically incorrect? I don't know... I would probably go full berserker at some point in time to keep things interesting, but after that life would be boring as hell.
Yeah you could argue easily that current human life isn't really built for living longer. We get bored easily and our goals are usually built around short term needs/wants, even if that short term is 40-50 years. I think it will be better when health span increases, though. When we think of old age now, we think of not being able to do much and living a certain way. When you're 90 but your body looks/feels like you're 30-40, things will change.
 

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Reversing aging means reversing biological age of the human body. You won't live 50 extra years in a 90 year old's body, that makes 0 sense and it's not possible to keep someone who is 90 years old biologically alive indefinitely anyways. You will be chronologically 90, but biologically 25 (or whatever the age is when the human body is fully developed).

You can do whatever you want. Sports, hobbies, video games, explore the world. I don't think it's possible to get bored. New technology will always get created. Full dive VR, space exploration (interplanetary or even interstellar space travel possibly) etc. If you still hate your life, you can always just rope!

Current human life is pathetic. You are in school till your early-mid 20s, then you get a job and spend most of your healthy life being a wage cuck (in our case a balding wage cuck so its even worse lol), then you finally retire but you're too old to do anything, and then you die. Pathetic
 

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Scientists today can’t cure cavity, neither much more serious diseases like cancer, heart failure...So, stop living in delusion that you will live 115 years and gonna date 25 years old girls.

Your 60’s not gonna be your new 20’s. No matter how much scientists lies you.
 

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I think it will be better when health span increases, though. When we think of old age now, we think of not being able to do much and living a certain way.
I agree with you, but I want to be pretty active when I am older. I exercise, have good habits and a health head.

If you still hate your life, you can always just rope!
Oh. I love life. I could easily live 150-300 years. But I am thinking of virtual immortality... I don't know if I would want to live 5000 years, for example. Imagine how traumatizing would be to lose a friend after 500 years. Happiness and sorrow would be greater than ever before. I imagine that most ppl would dive into VR eventually when they become desensitized to everything. Personally, I guess I would live as long as I could and then I would just stop prolonging my life at some point in time.

Hehehe This reminds me of the Tolkien's books.
 

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Scientists today can’t cure cavity, neither much more serious diseases like cancer, heart failure...So, stop living in delusion that you will live 115 years and gonna date 25 years old girls.

Your 60’s not gonna be your new 20’s. No matter how much scientists lies you.
I guess that everybody here knows that we are gonna die without a prolonge lifespan. Probably.

I am dating a 21 years old woman and I am 30 years old. And she did all the moves. There is nothing special about that. Age alone means nothing.
 

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I guess that everybody here knows that we are gonna die without a prolonge lifespan. Probably.

I am dating a 21 years old woman and I am 30 years old. And she did all the moves. There is nothing special about that. Age alone means nothing.
Age alone means nothing if the difference is not more than 15 years. If you are 50 years old it is very hardly that you will gonna date 25 years hot girls without being very rich.
 

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Scientists today can’t cure cavity, neither much more serious diseases like cancer, heart failure...So, stop living in delusion that you will live 115 years and gonna date 25 years old girls.

Your 60’s not gonna be your new 20’s. No matter how much scientists lies you.
I suggest you actually check where the research is at before making incredibly stupid statements like this. Scientists are not lying to me, I'm capable of doing my own research and understandings what pieces of the puzzle are needed to extend lifespan and where they currently are in research and development in addition to how quick the rate of discovery will go up with advances in computing & AI power.

You act like we're saying that every single person alive right now is going to become immortal. I'm just assuming that most people in this site are in their 30-40s or lower. These are the people that have 40+ years of science ahead of them that will make both incremental and large steps along the way to get them living longer and reset key cell structures to prolong ageing. Then comes the more advanced things like full on tissue and bone regeneration, but we are a decade or more away from that.

Without outside factors such as war, climate change or new diseases from plastic poisonings or something, the average life in the developed world is going to climb to about 90-95~ in the next decade or so and it will remain there until one of those large scale leaps in health technology happens. The increase to 90-95 will happen from simply from smart health technology that can predict things like heart disease and stroke weeks in advance (already exists, google it, it's a electric body patch) and advanced blood screenings for cancers that can be detected in their infancy (also exists and one of them was already approved last week in the UK).
 

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I suggest you actually check where the research is at before making incredibly stupid statements like this. Scientists are not lying to me, I'm capable of doing my own research and understandings what pieces of the puzzle are needed to extend lifespan and where they currently are in research and development in addition to how quick the rate of discovery will go up with advances in computing & AI power.

You act like we're saying that every single person alive right now is going to become immortal. I'm just assuming that most people in this site are in their 30-40s or lower. These are the people that have 40+ years of science ahead of them that will make both incremental and large steps along the way to get them living longer and reset key cell structures to prolong ageing. Then comes the more advanced things like full on tissue and bone regeneration, but we are a decade or more away from that.

Without outside factors such as war, climate change or new diseases from plastic poisonings or something, the average life in the developed world is going to climb to about 90-95~ in the next decade or so and it will remain there until one of those large scale leaps in health technology happens. The increase to 90-95 will happen from simply from smart health technology that can predict things like heart disease and stroke weeks in advance (already exists, google it, it's a electric body patch) and advanced blood screenings for cancers that can be detected in their infancy (also exists and one of them was already approved last week in the UK).

everything would make sense if a 90-year-old man looked like a 20-year-old on the outside, we are still a long way from that, not a decade
besides, I prefer to invest in cryonics and have a chance for a new beautiful body, what after being 90 years old look like
20 years old but still ugly and short?
 
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