Tfw Having Hair Is Not Nearly Enough

[CopeForLife]

I you got a job and live in a rich country, it does not impact your life...yet
Just more girls for Chads i guess

that won't impact my life at all why should I care?

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

that won't impact my life at all why should I care?

You don't know that for sure

 

[IdealForehead]

You don't know that for sure

Unless the overcrowding spreads to his parents' basement he'll probably be okay.

 

[DHTpolice]

Thought about it extensively. Researched it thoroughly for probably about a year. Best approach is internal femoral lengthening and the best surgeon is probably Guichet, especially because his method allows for weight bearing, so you won't be wheelchair bound during recovery.

Main problems are that you need 6 months of being off work to do it (impossible for me) and people still routinely get butchered and crippled during these procedures, though not likely with someone like Guichet. In the past few years for example a whole bunch of people got butchered by a Spanish surgeon named Dr. Alex Monegal. Butcherings happen regularly in India, Russia, and China. Also even if you avoid being butchered short term, there are a lot of unknowns about how perfect your joint alignment will be and what the arthritis risk is long term.

The biggest reason I dropped it from my fantasy wish list though is I bought some elevator shoes from tallmenshoes.com which made me an inch or two taller and went out to some nightclubs or bars with them. Girls still looked at me like I'm a rapist/monster and still treated me like sh*t if I even tried to talk to them. So no different than usual.

So at least for me, the yield is low, the cost is high, and the risk is high. Elevator shoes are not bad. They helped me to understand that my face/build/race/whatever is obviously far more problematic than my height, and going from 5'7.5" to 5'9" or so doesn't make a damn bit of significant difference for me.

If might be higher yield for you as you are significantly shorter. Just don't underestimate the risks. If you're looking at a cheap surgeon in EE/Russia, I'm guessing you're considering tibial external Ilizarov. Whatever you do, make SURE any surgeon you see for this is using a modern Hexapod ring fixator like the Taylor Spatial Frame (TSF). Technology like the TSF considerably reduces risk of error or misalignment post surgery. In fact, done well, a TSF can even improve your natural alignment.

Jesus I just realized I probably know enough about various forms of looksmaxing to write a book and I'm still too ugly to get anywhere from it.

I did very little research on the subject. In my country only Dr. Leonid Solomin is kinda respectful, many foreigners choose him as a cheapest high-quality surgeon in LL field. But I know for sure, the quality of medical care in EE has left much to be desired.

f*** it! Better go full tranny then...

 

[IdealForehead]

I did very little research on the subject. In my country only Dr. Leonid Solomin is kinda respectful, many foreigners chose him as a cheapest high-quality surgeon in LL field. But I know for sure, the quality of medical care in EE has left much to be desired.

f*** it! Better go full tranny then...

To be honest I would seriously consider it at your height. You just have to do your due diligence first and really research it and consider all your options. Also make sure you try some elevator shoes first. Ideally find a pair with inserts that can get you at least 2-2.5" of height, which is the usual target goal of surgery. (If you're doing tibias 2" is a safe maximum and for femurs, 2.5" is a safe maximum.)

Wear them for a few weeks and see how you feel. If it makes a dramatic difference in how people react to you and how you feel as a person, then pursue it. If like me nothing really changes, then you know it's not going to really help.

Also, if you do consider going ahead with it, work very aggressively for at least one year before the surgery on stretching to improve the flexibility of your hips, knees, and ankles. You want to ideally become like one of those yoga guys who can bend themselves into a pretzel. At a minimum, you should be able to do a side and front split.

The reason this is important is that as you lengthen the bones, there is a great deal of tension that is created on the ligaments and tendons, and this is where a lot of the pain, stiffness, and post-op complications come from. People that have exceptional flexibility often do much better with these surgeries and rebound faster. People with poor flexibility can still be walking funny a year or two afterwards or need ligament/tendon "releases" (surgeries to lengthen their ligs/tendons) post op due to contractures and persistent joint stiffness/tightness. It can create real problems if you go into one of these surgeries with poor initial flexibility.

 

[g.i joey]

Tfw finasteride isnt working and i feel like im dumber when im on this sh*t, was in denial for a while, but theres a definite difference in the way i articulate myself off the drug and on it... and at the same time, no positive benefits from it

 

[CopeForLife]

Unless the overcrowding spreads to his parents' basement he'll probably be okay.

Moron, mathematically this "problem" will never impact anyone on HairLossTalk.com during their lifetime. Unless you're living in India, China or similar shithole.

 

[IdealForehead]

Moron, mathematically this "problem" will never impact anyone on HairLossTalk.com during their lifetime. Unless you're living in India, China or similar shithole.

Jesus dude you're so serious all the time. I think the depression is eating your brain alive. Seriously, ever try SSRIs?

They're not bad from my experience. I've taken them during periods when I'm ridiculously low and they've helped me out at least short term.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Moron, mathematically this "problem" will never impact anyone on HairLossTalk.com during their lifetime. Unless you're living in India, China or similar shithole.

Tell that to me when I'm stuck in traffic for an hour coming home from work on a Friday

 

[DHTpolice]

To be honest I would seriously consider it at your height. You just have to do your due diligence first and really research it and consider all your options. Also make sure you try some elevator shoes first. Ideally find a pair with inserts that can get you at least 2-2.5" of height, which is the usual target goal of surgery. (If you're doing tibias 2" is a safe maximum and for femurs, 2.5" is a safe maximum.)

Wear them for a few weeks and see how you feel. If it makes a dramatic difference in how people react to you and how you feel as a person, then pursue it. If like me nothing really changes, then you know it's not going to really help.

Also, if you do consider going ahead with it, work very aggressively for at least one year before the surgery on stretching to improve the flexibility of your hips, knees, and ankles. You want to ideally become like one of those yoga guys who can bend themselves into a pretzel. At a minimum, you should be able to do a side and front split.

The reason this is important is that as you lengthen the bones, there is a great deal of tension that is created on the ligaments and tendons, and this is where a lot of the pain, stiffness, and post-op complications come from. People that have exceptional flexibility often do much better with these surgeries and rebound faster. People with poor flexibility can still be walking funny a year or two afterwards or need ligament/tendon "releases" (surgeries to lengthen their ligs/tendons) post op due to contractures and persistent joint stiffness/tightness.

It can create real problems if you go into one of these surgeries with poor initial flexibility.

Actually, that's good to hear, I have worked really hard on my flexibility prior to hair loss. I can do a side split, but still working on frontal splits, so I am pretty much prepared, ha-ha. I only consider surgery on tibias, I am afraid of any surgical intervention in femur. My biggest concern is that I am androgen-deprived (for more than 9 months) and my estrogen is not in female ranges yet, so maybe I am not a good candidate for such a surgery?

Will try elevator-shoes first. That's what I've been missing all this time. Thanks.

 

[CopeForLife]

Tell that to me when I'm stuck in traffic for an hour coming home from work on a Friday

overpopulation of cars?

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

overpopulation of cars?

You do know there's poverty and unemployement in every countries right ? And these numbers have increased in the last 50 years.Not enough offers and too much requests, so "mathematically" it can very much impact some HairLossTalk.com users in their lifetime

 

[DHTpolice]

Why is the kid not wearing underwear in the before/after pictures, lol WTF is that about haha

Lol. On first pic he wears something, but it censored.

 

[IdealForehead]

Actually, that's good to hear, I have worked really hard on my flexibility prior to hair loss. I can do a side split, but still working on frontal splits, so I am pretty much prepared, ha-ha. I only consider surgery on tibias, I am afraid of any surgical intervention in femur. My biggest concern is that I am androgen-deprived (for more than 9 months) and my estrogen is not in female ranges yet, so maybe I am not a good candidate for such a surgery?

Will try elevator-shoes first. That's what I've been missing all this time. Thanks.

If you have been seriously androgen deprived for any long duration and are considering this, make sure you get your bone density checked first. From what I've read while researching daro, androgen deprivation can lead to low bone density over time (osteoporosis), which can then lead to poor outcomes from bone surgery. Make sure you're taking vitamin D and getting good dietary calcium.

Absolutely try the elevator shoes first. You might surprise yourself with how much it does or doesn't help. Best way to know first. Let us know how you find it when you do. I'm curious what your experience will be.

 

[SmoothSailing]

overpopulation of cars?

Yes.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

Actually, that's good to hear, I have worked really hard on my flexibility prior to hair loss. I can do a side split, but still working on frontal splits, so I am pretty much prepared, ha-ha. I only consider surgery on tibias, I am afraid of any surgical intervention in femur. My biggest concern is that I am androgen-deprived (for more than 9 months) and my estrogen is not in female ranges yet, so maybe I am not a good candidate for such a surgery?

Will try elevator-shoes first. That's what I've been missing all this time. Thanks.

Don't buy actual elevator shoes, they look obvious and blocky. Buy height increasing insoles instead.

 

[IdealForehead]

Don't buy actual elevator shoes, they look obvious and blocky. Buy height increasing insoles instead.
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The ones I have from Tallmenshoes are very subtle. They only build about 1" or so of height directly into the shoe, so it's not noticeable, and if you want more, you have to use height increasing insoles IN ADDITION (which they sell as well).

Recommended. Worst part is trying to order shoes online while guessing what size they are going to be and then sending the pair you receive back twice due to wrong sizing and paying damn near $250 for the pair by the end after all the shipping charges back and forth. Still it was worth it for me to know what the extra height does or doesn't mean. Cheaper than 100K of LL from Guichet.

 

[CopeForLife]

Don't buy actual elevator shoes, they look obvious and blocky. Buy height increasing insoles instead.
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insecure f**

 

[SmoothSailing]

Don't buy actual elevator shoes, they look obvious and blocky. Buy height increasing insoles instead.
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I get to nearly 5'11 with these.

Feel good until I'm at a shoes-off household.

 

[JeanLucBB]

can't find a thing I care about less than overpopulation

Climate change