Tfw Having Hair Is Not Nearly Enough

[razzmatazz91]

Going from a thick Norwood 3 to mature hairline is not noticeable to normal people. I got comments like you look different, is it a new jacket, more muscle, new hairstyle or hair product, you look well e.t.c. No one could pin point the transplant. If you're obviously very bald and come back with a fullhead, it's different. Or if you've got bald pictures on facebook, have a poor noticeable pluggy transplant e.t.c

I believe Shookwun and JeanLuc were in a similar position more or less. These account for your typical transplant case, lowish Norwood and being on finasteride.

I see. Makes sense. Normies are probably not norwood spotters anyway.
I wonder how many Norwood 5s or 6s have a successful hair transplant. Let alone NON-NOTICABLE.
I'm still hoping that since I shave my head, I won't be noticed if I get an hair transplant. I guess I'm just deluding myself.

 

[razzmatazz91]

Norwood 5/6 to fullhead is pretty rare, that's why it's shown on youtube as a big deal, because in real life it's unlikely.

Crying softly. I don't have tons of coverage... I just have some additional fluff.
So what can one expect as a Norwood 5/6? Less-than ideal results, and using concealers for life and living a restricted lifestyle?

Dude this is painful...but thanks for being honest with me Wolf.

I feel at this Norwood, one should go for FUT followed by FUE. But now I'm wondering if only FUE is better so that it can be shaved, rather than having ridiculously thin hair

 

[razzmatazz91]

Crying softly. I don't have tons of coverage... I just have some additional fluff.
So what can one expect as a Norwood 5/6? Less-than ideal results, and using concealers for life and living a restricted lifestyle?

Dude this is painful...but thanks for being honest with me Wolf.

I feel at this Norwood, one should go for FUT followed by FUE. But now I'm wondering if only FUE is better so that it can be shaved, rather than having ridiculously thin hair

Checked for responses 50 times in last three hours hoping for someone to drop by and say it's not all bad...

TFW you realise you really are fucked

 

[IdealForehead]

Checked for responses 50 times in last three hours hoping for someone to drop by and say it's not all bad...

TFW you realise you really are fucked

You should maximize regrowth first with aggressive chemical means including strong antiandrogens and oral minoxidil.

You could grow 1-2 norwoods back potentially. Then get the transplant.

 

[Roberto_72]

You should maximize regrowth first with aggressive chemical means including strong antiandrogens and oral minoxidil.

You could grow 1-2 norwoods back potentially. Then get the transplant.

I am sorry but I disagree.
"Aggressive chemicals" are not for everyone. They are for those who are willing able to take the risk of:
- buying products that may be systematically stopped at customs:
- being administered products that may be
+ Not tested for quality
+ Not tested for topical side effects
+ Not tested for efficacy

We all know what you can expect from a hair transplant instead, provided you don't go to an unknown butcher.

I say to @razzmatazz91 : get a FUE, will travel

 

[Cue Bald]

i'm watching the video for "kungs this girl" do you suppose the boy in the video would still be in it if he was a NW6?

 

[razzmatazz91]

I am sorry but I disagree.
"Aggressive chemicals" are not for everyone. They are for those who are willing able to take the risk of:
- buying products that may be systematically stopped at customs:
- being administered products that may be
+ Not tested for quality
+ Not tested for topical side effects
+ Not tested for efficacy

We all know what you can expect from a hair transplant instead, provided you don't go to an unknown butcher.

I say to @razzmatazz91 : get a FUE, will travel

Yeah... But what can you expect at NW5...maybe 6. I'm not willing to wear concealers or look subhuman even after an hair transplant

Edit: just read some material online. I see that people with advanced NWs have to make do with thin crown transplants. How does the math work here? Do we just have to make peace with the fact that we will always look like we are balding..only from the top rather than the front?

 

[Roberto_72]

Do we just have to make peace with the fact that we will always look like we are balding..only from the top rather than the front?

The front is the most important thing, because it frames your face.
The top is important, but not as the hairline. Any surgeon will tell you that.
Plus, you can use beard transplant for the crown, not for the top.
Do you have beard?

 

[razzmatazz91]

The front is the most important thing, because it frames your face.
The top is important, but not as the hairline. Any surgeon will tell you that.
Plus, you can use beard transplant for the crown, not for the top.
Do you have beard?

I'm aware that it is more important. But if even after an hair transplant, I'm going to look like I am still balding, just from a different angle, I don't see the point.
Yeah..my beard isn't thick..

 

[IdealForehead]

I am sorry but I disagree.
"Aggressive chemicals" are not for everyone. They are for those who are willing able to take the risk of:
- buying products that may be systematically stopped at customs:
- being administered products that may be
+ Not tested for quality
+ Not tested for topical side effects
+ Not tested for efficacy

We all know what you can expect from a hair transplant instead, provided you don't go to an unknown butcher.

I say to @razzmatazz91 : get a FUE, will travel

Aggressive chemical means also include dutasteride, cyproterone, topical or oral flutamide, oral minoxidil, and topical esteogen, all of which you can also get at a regular pharmacy.

A transplant on a nw5+ is almost always going to be very poor. But we have seen many people go from nw5+ to nw2-3 with chemical means.

Chemicals are the best chance we currently have of someone in the nw5 range end up with a head of hair he can truly be proud of.

Not everyone wants to get the hair this way but I think it is inarguable his outcome will be much better with a strong chemical approach for a year followed by transplants than transplants alone.

 

[sunchyme1]

Aggressive chemical means also include dutasteride, cyproterone, topical or oral flutamide, oral minoxidil, and topical esteogen, all of which you can also get at a regular pharmacy.

A transplant on a nw5+ is almost always going to be very poor. But we have seen many people go from nw5+ to nw2-3 with chemical means.

Chemicals are the best chance we currently have of someone in the nw5 range end up with a head of hair he can truly be proud of.

Not everyone wants to get the hair this way but I think it is inarguable his outcome will be much better with a strong chemical approach for a year followed by transplants than transplants alone.

wont that regrown hair just fall out again once you drop the meds?

if could regrow a couple of norwoods with hardcore drugs then stop them and go back to normal whilst still retaining my hair gains i would gladly do it

 

[IdealForehead]

wont that regrown hair just fall out again once you drop the meds?

if could regrow a couple of norwoods with hardcore drugs then stop them and go back to normal whilst still retaining my hair gains i would gladly do it

1) It tells you what your scalp is capable of. Even if you try a maintenance regimen and lose it at least you will know you can always amp back up to get it back again.

2) It buys you time to decide what your maintenance regimen should be. I went on spironolactone and cypro fully knowing I could not sustain either more than a few months but I wanted to see how much would grow and also buy time to think. I found daro and I'm happy now.

Obviously not everyone wants hair this bady. But a transplant on a nw5 that is continuing to lose hair is going to be miserable. A transplant on a nw3 that's growing back strong hair will likely be great.

Unless you are willing to accept a very sparse result or go to a wig eventually.

 

[yurguardianangel]

It's better than being short, ugly AND bald atleast. What's your regimen?

Can't be worse than me, bald,fat and hairy all over, least I'm tall though.

Yes I'm very hairy on the back,shoulders,neck,stomach,chest,etc.
I usually trim it down though.
Fat, well my pot belly stomach and thighs are, rest of me is slim...

 

[razzmatazz91]

A transplant on a nw5+ is almost always going to be very poor.

How accurate is this?
Just yesterday someone told me I could have decent results even though I am at least an Norwood 5

 

[razzmatazz91]

Crying softly. I don't have tons of coverage... I just have some additional fluff.
So what can one expect as a Norwood 5/6? Less-than ideal results, and using concealers for life and living a restricted lifestyle?

Dude this is painful...but thanks for being honest with me Wolf.

I feel at this Norwood, one should go for FUT followed by FUE. But now I'm wondering if only FUE is better so that it can be shaved, rather than having ridiculously thin hair

No answer, @Wolf Pack ?

 

[CopeLikeThePope]

I have never seen good results of hair transplant past NW2. NW3+ requires use of concealers because the density is simply not there.

 

[CopeLikeThePope]

Aggressive chemical means also include dutasteride, cyproterone, topical or oral flutamide, oral minoxidil, and topical esteogen, all of which you can also get at a regular pharmacy.

A transplant on a nw5+ is almost always going to be very poor. But we have seen many people go from nw5+ to nw2-3 with chemical means.

Chemicals are the best chance we currently have of someone in the nw5 range end up with a head of hair he can truly be proud of.

Not everyone wants to get the hair this way but I think it is inarguable his outcome will be much better with a strong chemical approach for a year followed by transplants than transplants alone.

Please read PM when possible. We discussed 2 compounds the other day but i cant find the posts.

 

[razzmatazz91]

I say to @razzmatazz91 : get a FUE, will travel

If I can't have decent density, what's the point? Besides, why FUE instead of FUT which will yield even fewer grafts?

I have never seen good results of hair transplant past NW2. NW3+ requires use of concealers because the density is simply not there.

I worked hard to get myself to even consider surgery. I'm not sure if I should give up now...

 

[Roberto_72]

If I can't have decent density, what's the point? Besides, why FUE instead of FUT which will yield even fewer grafts?



I worked hard to get myself to even consider surgery. I'm not sure if I should give up now...

Then shave it.

 

[razzmatazz91]

Then shave it.

But shaving for over a year now.

The black patch which is my forelock makes me look f*****g weird.
Hi does a man get used to being ugly all of a sudden.... I was a good looking guy just three years ago.

Now i can meet women and know from their face just how repulsive I am. I need help man...and if something is available out there, I'm looking for it.