The Bald Experiment - Bald guy uses old NW1 photos for his dates

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im sorry i think he is plain ugly all around, face and body..... probably around 5

Conor is an handsome lad and has less hair, dont take my word on it... just read the comments made by females regarding Conor

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Dude rocks his look and has SUPERHUMAN confidence- its absurd how highly he carries himself, he stands next to men twice his size and casts a larger shadow then them all. That said, look at him without his beard, not exactly a young Shogun Rua.
 

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And you're just going to take his word for it?
Yes, because I don't immediately assume that everyone who presents a personal narrative that contradicts my world view is a liar. Why should I believe you over him? Why should I take your word that he's a liar?


Yet women would still go for the taller guys.

Conor gets what Conor wants.

Also, what if the taller guy has no hair but the short one does? *Gasp*
 

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You realize there is only one reality out there? You can't bend reality to your own desires. I don't care about worldviews, I care about what is true, or what is close to the truth.

Says the guy who ignores scientific studies. Fred, your experiences are only your own, not those of others. I have to ask, whats your academic background?
 

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I never said all you do is post on this forum dont put words in my mouth, and i said my reason about the "girlfriend" question in the other thread i was asked, its kinda obvious where its going regardless what my answer is, so like i said before im not answering it.

In other words: involuntary celibate.
 

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In other words: involuntary celibate.

*Thinks back to what i wrote* "its kinda obvious where its going regardless what my answer is" *looks at notcoolanymore comment* "In other words: involuntary celibate" exactly my point, but its sadly gone there regardless...sigh.
 

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My academic background? University master's degree. You see, I do have an academic and scientific background.

You missed the masters in communications part :) Did it help you tighten your game? Teasing you Fred.
 

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Tight game is all that matters.

Demonstrate higher value bro? Be cocky and funny.

Neg her with your emulated alpha male personaluty
 

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So my experiences weren't real? They didn't happen? I imagined them?

I don't care about your scientific studies. If I did, I would be reading a social sciences journals. Social studies are often not reliable.

My academic background? University master's degree. You see, I do have an academic and scientific background.

I even had to follow a course on scientific research methodology. The bottom line of the course was that you should always take scientific studies with a grain of salt.

I want to hear your stories. How you got that cute girlfriend despite being a slick NW5.

How you're comfortable in your own skin and living a fulfilling life despite being bald (That's science-fiction by the way, we've never seen something like this since the creation of this forum).

Do you have stories like that? It seems you have nothing of substance to share here.

You want scientific studies? Here you go:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16307704
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1607410
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12492971

Please comment those studies. What do you have to say about those?
A Masters in what? Do you have any background in evolutionary psychology or anthropology? You know, the fields that study human mating rituals?

I'll gladly comment on those studies.

The first and third study was about self perception and the effect of hairloss on the individual. You'd see that the axe body spray study I posted concluded that improved self perception leads to others perceiving you as more attractive.

The second study (which I'm already familiar with) is about how society perceives balding men or those with Norwood-5's. In case you dont remember, a study I posted concluded that people with limited hair (including hippocratic wreaths) were perceived as being less attractive than those who have absolutely no hair which were, in turn, perceived as less attractive but stronger and more dominant than those with full heads of hair.

And to answer your question, you'll never see me with an Norwood-5 because I'll shave the back and sides of my head. There's a big difference between this

michael-from-vsauce.jpg


and this

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Oh and here's another piece about how signs of masculinity and dominance make men more attractive. In case it wasn't obvious, proficiency in combat is seen as a sexually desirable trait in men, its why we're bigger than women, we're evolutionary programmed to fight each-other for them and while that's not acceptable in modern society there's still a genetic basis for why more powerful men are preferred by women.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1086969/Women-scarred-men-attractive-looking-fling.html
 

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/bald-men-more-masculine-less-attractive/

This says the exact opposite of what you've just said. Being perceived as masculine and more dominant does not make you more attractive.

The more dominant and masculine you appear, the less attractive you will be.

No, if that was the case then men with thinning hair would rate higher than those with no hair. Also, that study is supposed to compliment the other studies I posted that show that dominance is the ultimate trump card.

BTW, I'm also speaking from experience. There was a model who used to attend the boxercises class at my gym, she used to show up with her male model boyfriend who never used to train but would come and hang out with the fighters while we do our conditioning in the back. Well, his girlfriend came to the realization that she actually really likes kickboxing and that she'd start training with the men, including sparring (which means getting punched in the face, regardless of if your a woman or not). As you can imagine she quickly reached a point where she could beat her pretty-boy boyfriend up and promptly dumped him. Guess who she ended up with?
(Hint: it was me)

There's also another guy at the gym with a norwood (who shaves it all off) who dates a mega hot 19 year old.
 

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/bald-men-more-masculine-less-attractive/

This says the exact opposite of what you've just said. Being perceived as masculine and more dominant does not make you more attractive.

The more dominant and masculine you appear, the less attractive you will be. That makes sense since most male sex symbols have feminine features.

Also, not everyone can shave it all off and make it work. Do you understand there isn't a one size fits all solution, right?

I tried to shave my head completely for example, and everywhere I went, people were asking me if I had cancer.

Those comments stopped when I let the horseshoe grow back. So shaving it all off (bro) is not an option for tall pale skinny men like me.

Yet women don't go for the strong masculine meathead, it's not on their shopping list, they go for the tall, skinny, feminine-looking NW1.

Open your eyes and look around you when you go out. You will see that it's true.

When I see my girlfriend's female friends and their boyfriends, none of them are overly masculine, muscular or dominant.

On the other hand, most of them are tall, skinny, have a NW1 and feminine features.

If you want more information about why women go for the pretty boy type, read The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar.

In short, women want to fall in love with themselves, which is why they're attracted to feminine features in men.

Look you don't need to look any further than this; https://www.google.nl/search?q=male...hMI4sqP64DWxwIVx9wsCh0EIwrB&biw=1920&bih=1099.

That is how most women like to see their men. Period. That definitely isn't skinny freddyboy. Almost all of them have a proper build aesthetic physique. Oh yes, and hair off course LOL.
 

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Yet almost all women I know are with tall, normal guys, not necessarily skinny, but not built like those male models.

You realize these are the top 0.001% men when it comes to body genetics. 99% of men don't have bodies like that.

I don't have to look any further than my Facebook. I see 0 muscular guy with the girls I'm friends with and none of my guy friends is muscular.

Stop using male models and celebrities to prove points. They are not in the same world as us. Use real life examples.

Like these: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151408140183842.1073741825.26526758841&type=3

Welcome to the real world.

What's your point? The reality is that the well build guy with a nice toned physique will win it from the exact same guy who is skinny overall. Period. And these guys definately don't have better "body genetics" than 99% of the population. Most are just sitting at a low bf% and have put effort into building some muscle.
 

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No one cares about muscles, and not everybody can get a physique like the one you have in your avatar. Not easily anyway.

A guy like you will spend a lot of time in the gym trying to compensate for negative traits like shortness or baldness.

While a tall skinny guy can just do nothing and he will be alright when it comes to attracting women.

Not "easily" yes. Gotta put some effort into it. Let's take you. You are skinny right? Want to bet that women will find you more attractive when you will attain a well defined physique? Everyone can do it btw.

While a tall skinny guy can just do nothing and he will be alright when it comes to attracting women.

Jup but the same tall skinny guy will do even better attracting women when he has a well defined physique.
 

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I don't think it's worth the effort, that's why I don't do it. They won't see the difference with the clothes.

It just wouldn't work for me, I can't gain weight because all the fat goes in my belly and face.

It's just that my body type is really, really not adapted to reach good results through bodybuilding.

I have a very particular body, I know it. I was at a festival recently and I saw a lot of guys shirtless.

They weren't necessarily muscular, but I could see that they definitely had a good structure to develop a good physique.

I know it sounds like I'm defeatist, but I have tried building muscles before.

It just didn't work and I didn't feel at ease with a fat face and belly because of my increased food intake.

It may not be ideal, but I feel better staying under 72 kg (at 1m90). We're all different and we have to make the best of what we have.

Not everything will work for everyone. Just like shaving my head didn't work for me (cancer comments).

I would have to put 10x the effort men with normal bodies would have to put, only to get mediocre and unnoticeable results in the end.

It isn't worth it.

True story.
 

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It's all good for now guys. Fred, there is nothing wrong with being negative in itself. Like I said, you went through baldness. This is not just a feel good place, you can vent for sure everyday. But you cannot bully people into agreeing with you, attacking them and belittling them constantly until they lash out. That's what must stop.
 

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Okay, that's fine. Resu also dislikes empty "confidence" and in fact had an avatar mocking confidence. Yet no one has complained. I think you know yourself, there is a way to get your thoughts across without attacking them. As you said once, it's not one size fits all as far as baldness goes. I think that's true and a lot of factors come into play.

You're welcome to advice newbies for sure, it would be great.

It's best if all these discussions continue without any locking of threads or banning, it would be ideal. I hope that is the case.
 

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I think most know that confidence and "getting big" wont just work just like that, obviously there is more to it, its just things what can make YOU feel better, not for anyone else, just YOU.
 

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I think most know that confidence and "getting big" wont just work just like that, obviously there is more to it, its just things what can make YOU feel better, not for anyone else, just YOU.

It's important to feel better but we all want objective validation too from others. So it's a balancing act. I do believe confidence is a by product. You can get it out of thin air, there are some people like this believe it or not, but how much impact does it have on others?

Ultimately being at peace in life (with your good and bad points ) is probably the most important thing.
 
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