This Whole Thing Reminds Me Of Racism And Discrimination

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I feel as if every achievment is not worth it when you're gonna be repulsive and bald in a few years whats the point

I wonder if @pjhair has seen your looks.

Either way you are somebody who definitely needs to work on social aspects and career. You are in the top 25% for looks, lots of people have done exceedingly well with lesser looks than you have.
 

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Achieve first and then determine if it's worth it for you. Right now you are speculating on baseless assumptions. Guys like @shookwun and @Dante92 have many insecurities too and ask them how would they feel if they didn't have their career in order. You are too young to realize how big an impact a career makes on ones psyche. If you are 35 and have selling burgers at McDonalds for your career, you will know what I mean.

For me having a high income allows me to purse various hobbies. I don't have to think twice about taking a flight to Europe and party there for a week. Or take a flight to India to see my family. I don't really own fancy car as I am not into them. But I do like living in nice apartment in good neighborhood and wear nice clothes. Also, my income allows me to send money to my father every month which gives me great satisfaction. My father supported me all his life. He paid for my college and everything. Now that he is retired, it's my responsibility to take care of him.

I urge all the young guys to TAKE CARE of your careers. It matters a lot. You will really feel it's impact in your mid thirties. Don't allow your depression about balding ruin everything.

This. What's exactly your field, if I may ask?
 

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I urge all the young guys to TAKE CARE of your careers. It matters a lot. You will really feel it's impact in your mid thirties. Don't allow your depression about balding ruin everything.

Can confirm. My work woes have had a massive negative impact on my quality of life.

Also, it's much harder to correct career mistakes after 30.
 

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Obviously geographic need and necessity help a lot. They go a long way and creative an incentive. However, so do non-inevitable cultural and education practices. People in Scandinavian countries, for example, routinely learn 3 or more languages, they don't need to learn 3, learning 2 would be enough. The education system does seem more rational in those countries, they also have healthier school lunches, and they don't have much homework until later ages. Those are social choices. Economic fundamentals remain but social factors and good policy making can still torque probabilities.

From a google search:
only 36 percent of Americans hold a valid passport, according to the State Department, compared to 60 percent of passport-holding Canadians and 75 percent for Brits and Aussies.

The fact that Japanese are insular as well is not an apology for this. Japan has a lot of issues as well. They were on the verge of supwerpower status in 1990, respected international scholars were writing books predicting another Pearl Harbour, now they are nowhere near that.


Watching foreign films with subtitles, or dubbed, still counts as watching foreign films. It's a piece of art from a culture separate from your own and thus there's a good shot that it will have different biases and different markers. Could a Japanese creative team create Batman? No, it's very American, similarly to how an American is unlikely to create Godzilla, as it's a metaphor for Hiroshima.

Greetings,

Scandinavia is in no way isolated, doesn't fit this conversation. Social engineering notwithstanding, the Scandinavian countries are, of course, right on top of each other, and Europe. As is the UK.

I'm guessing that you've never lived in Japan, right? If you had you would never, ever say this: "Watching foreign films with subtitles, or dubbed, still counts as watching foreign films. It's a piece of art from a culture separate from your own and thus there's a good shot that it will have different biases and different markers."

Japan is 98.5% Japanese. You will not find a more homogenous society on the globe culturally, linguistically, or in population, besides NK. The fact that they enjoy dubbed Batman makes them about as global as my General Tso's Chicken dinner at the mall a couple of weeks ago makes me Chinese. Sure, there are different biases and markers to be found in movies, but the two hours spent watching a western action flick every couple of months does not a global citizen make, it is the tiniest drop in the bucket and the tens of millions of foreigners living and working in the USA and the much higher rate of immigration and accepting refugees there have a much, much greater impact on making people "global", of course. Please remember that being "global" first and foremost is about communicating with and knowing living, breathing foreigners, and the US has no shortage of them. As is true of Canada and Australia which are better comparisons and yes in certain ways quite "global".
 
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Greetings,

Scandanavia is in no way isolated, doesn't fit this conversation. Social engineering notwithstanding, the Scandanavian countries are, of course, right on top of each other, and Europe. As is the UK.

I'm guessing that you've never lived in Japan, right? If you had you would never, ever say this: "Watching foreign films with subtitles, or dubbed, still counts as watching foreign films. It's a piece of art from a culture separate from your own and thus there's a good shot that it will have different biases and different markers."

Japan is 98.5% Japanese. You will not find a more homogenous society on the globe culturally, linguistically, or in population, besides NK. The fact that they enjoy dubbed Batman makes them about as global as my General Tso's Chicken dinner at the mall a couple of weeks ago makes me Chinese. Sure, there are different biases and markers to be found in movies, but the two hours spent watching a western action flick every couple of months does not a global citizen make, it is the tiniest drop in the bucket and the tens of millions of foreigners living and working in the USA and the much higher rate of immigration and accepting refugees there have a much, much greater impact on making people "global", of course. Please remember that being "global" first and foremost is about communicating with and knowing living, breathing foreigners, and the US has no shortage of them. As is true of Canada and Australia which are better comparisons and yes in certain ways quite "global".


it's also the content of the films.

Most films that are huge sales overseas are big blockbuster action films not small indie films with limited distribution

so i don't know what culture they are being exposed to by a dubbed Marvel Comic film.

also now we have other ways of watching international films and tv series.

I watched many foreign TV series since Netflix that I may not have ever have watched before if they had just been on PBS or something that is limited to time/day.

are we monitoring all Americans viewership and exposure?

The reason that big budget films is what Hollywood is more focused on is $$$$/profits...and also because more and more directors and creative forces are being drawn into TV to tell stories as opposed to film. You have to do a typical formula for films (Save The Cat) that studios are involved with the product...so it's not as a creative a place as lets say an HBO or Amazon series to tell your story arch over 3 years. In 70s Directors had the freedom to do what they wanted...Studios are now corporate america and its not much more than profit and the occasional token films to aim for an oscars.

Martin Scorsese has spoken about this in detail.

So I personally think using film industry as a measurement tool for America vs International exposure to other cultures is flawed compared to a past time period.

the movies are expensive to go to...I think a lot of people feel that spending that money on a talking head film is a 'waste' of money compared to going to see a huge budget action or epic adventure film.

I work in the industry and I rarely go to films (i have to pay for that is) I go to some screenings but I am apathetic about going to the movies for pure enjoyment to be honest. Once in a while when something special comes out. Its not a money thing obviously its just lack of interest compared to what is now available on demand and netflix amazon.

the whole 'ignorant america' is not a new concept people say sh*t like this for years meanwhile I have met many ignorant people from all over the world.

Many academics are in fact ignorant....many educated people are ignorant...its 'which' topic are we speaking about being ignorant or knowledgeable that counts. People should not be fooled by sophisticated or polished language..you have to look at the core of what they are saying otherwise its all style..a point I made earlier in this thread.

I have met many dumb 'smart' people.
I have met many really sharp and aware (formally) uneducated people.
I think ignorant is more about how open minded you are vs closed minded and sometimes people who 'think' they know it all are very closed off from evolving and learning new things about new people.
Just because someone travels does not mean they are learning from the experience.
Many people travel but still are closed off to their surroundings. Nothing is absorbed and if it is for a moment that does not mean they are retaining it beyond that moment of exposure.
 
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Greetings,

Scandinavia is in no way isolated, doesn't fit this conversation. Social engineering notwithstanding, the Scandinavian countries are, of course, right on top of each other, and Europe. As is the UK.

I'm guessing that you've never lived in Japan, right? If you had you would never, ever say this: "Watching foreign films with subtitles, or dubbed, still counts as watching foreign films. It's a piece of art from a culture separate from your own and thus there's a good shot that it will have different biases and different markers."

Japan is 98.5% Japanese. You will not find a more homogenous society on the globe culturally, linguistically, or in population, besides NK. The fact that they enjoy dubbed Batman makes them about as global as my General Tso's Chicken dinner at the mall a couple of weeks ago makes me Chinese. Sure, there are different biases and markers to be found in movies, but the two hours spent watching a western action flick every couple of months does not a global citizen make, it is the tiniest drop in the bucket and the tens of millions of foreigners living and working in the USA and the much higher rate of immigration and accepting refugees there have a much, much greater impact on making people "global", of course. Please remember that being "global" first and foremost is about communicating with and knowing living, breathing foreigners, and the US has no shortage of them. As is true of Canada and Australia which are better comparisons and yes in certain ways quite "global".

I too am on a cell phone, so I'll just point out that General Tao chicken is primarily a North American dish :) It was developed by Chinese immigrants to serve the American palette, for example by adding a lot of sugar :)
 

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I too am on a cell phone, so I'll just point out that General Tao chicken is primarily a North American dish :) It was developed by Chinese immigrants to serve the American palette, for example by adding a lot of sugar :)

you are implying by this quote he used it in a wrong context

He used it as a metaphor..

making this piece meal quote dilutes his very informed and accurate quote as if he is implying that he did not know General Tao chicken is American dish.

This is what you do that I personally don't care for on the forum.
It picks apart peoples very heart felt posts to reduce it to one IMPLIED mistake.
it is what you did with my Dutchland comment which was obvious to me at least not a geographical comment but I a comment on his looks vs where he lives vs NY/states diversity.


Unless...do you have trouble processing metaphors?
 

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you are implying by this quote he used it in a wrong context

He used it as a metaphor..

making this piece meal quote dilutes his very informed and accurate quote as if he is implying that he did not know General Tao chicken is American dish.

This is what you do that I personally don't care for on the forum.
It picks apart peoples very heart felt posts to reduce it to one IMPLIED mistake.
it is what you did with my Dutchland comment which was obvious to me at least not a geographical comment but I a comment on his looks vs where he lives vs NY/states diversity.


Unless...do you have trouble processing metaphors?

Wrong on all counts.

Have a nice day @hairblues.
 

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You know what--you actually may not give a sh*t because you have this libertarian and lack of hypocrisy doctrine you try to live by--BUT no way in Hell i would buy @Dante92 or @WhitePolarBear or many of the other guys being okay with it....I would find it intellectually dishonest if they were to say it would not bother them based on 99% of previous postings.


LOLOL I can picture them with their pink 'ball' caps screaming bloody murder in the streets if an old ugly fat nasty woman who bragged on tape about randomly using her power and influence to fondle young men's genitals without permission was then elected as leader of the free world.
They would feel TOTALLY emasculated if that happen.
I mean my God a stupid no name feminist gets an op ed piece in Huff Post and they feel victimized by the unfairness of it.

I've personally experienced fat, old female colleagues talking to me (~30 ys old male) how they anticipate their vacation in Gambia to finally get themselves ''some''. There are plenty of documentaries about this older western women phenomenon (women live longer, and often without their husbands in their senior days). In these 3rd world countries, boys often do push-ups in front of sunbathing old women, just to impress them and being picked for their next dinner in some restaurant.

My point is; you will have extreme examples in both ends, dependant on in which part of the world you are. Personally I don't like neither extremes, either way. Having said that, I actually believe a huge reason Trump vas voted president was gender-provoked. If you look who voted for Trump it would be (almost) every young semi- and uneducated, white male. Why? When those clips came out with Trump saying those nasty things; did it really affect his campaign negatively? Or did it just cement those already provoked male souls on his side? Maybe this feminism thing has gotten out of hand many places in the states, and the reaction is shifting to the other extreme. A lot of data is pointing that way, but nobody is talking openly about it. To me it's clear as day. Trump is in many ways a (silent) male protest against the way the society is heading.

Nikola Tesla did predict this many, many years ago. It was also a huge reason why he never married. I don't advocate this line of thought, but it's pretty apparant many males do.
 

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I've personally experienced fat, old female colleagues talking to me (~30 ys old male) how they anticipate their vacation in Gambia to finally get themselves ''some''. There are plenty of documentaries about this older western women phenomenon (women live longer, and often without their husbands in their senior days). In these 3rd world countries, boys often do push-ups in front of sunbathing old women, just to impress them and being picked for their next dinner in some restaurant.

My point is; you will have extreme examples in both ends, dependant on in which part of the world you are. Personally I don't like neither extremes, either way. Having said that, I actually believe a huge reason Trump vas voted president was gender-provoked. If you look who voted for Trump it would be (almost) every young semi- and uneducated, white male. Why? When those clips came out with Trump saying those nasty things; did it really affect his campaign negatively? Or did it just cement those already provoked male souls on his side? Maybe this feminism thing has gotten out of hand many places in the states, and the reaction is shifting to the other extreme. A lot of data is pointing that way, but nobody is talking openly about it. To me it's clear as day. Trump is in many ways a (silent) male protest against the way the society is heading.

Nikola Tesla did predict this many, many years ago. It was also a huge reason why he never married. I don't advocate this line of thought, but it's pretty apparant many males do.


i think he won for many factors BUT I think he definitely struck a chord with men who felt emasculated by society.
 

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Yes I know General Tso's chicken ain't authentic Chinese, and that was part of my point. What is authentically foreign is a living breathing foreigner, of which we have many many millions in the USA.

It ain't Chinese but it sure is delicious
 

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Really, though, do you know why Trump won? The white Christian vote, including both men and women. They are the only groups who voted for him, obviously in big enough numbers to offset everyone else.
 

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I've personally experienced fat, old female colleagues talking to me (~30 ys old male) how they anticipate their vacation in Gambia to finally get themselves ''some''. There are plenty of documentaries about this older western women phenomenon (women live longer, and often without their husbands in their senior days). In these 3rd world countries, boys often do push-ups in front of sunbathing old women, just to impress them and being picked for their next dinner in some restaurant.

My point is; you will have extreme examples in both ends, dependant on in which part of the world you are. Personally I don't like neither extremes, either way. Having said that, I actually believe a huge reason Trump vas voted president was gender-provoked. If you look who voted for Trump it would be (almost) every young semi- and uneducated, white male. Why? When those clips came out with Trump saying those nasty things; did it really affect his campaign negatively? Or did it just cement those already provoked male souls on his side? Maybe this feminism thing has gotten out of hand many places in the states, and the reaction is shifting to the other extreme. A lot of data is pointing that way, but nobody is talking openly about it. To me it's clear as day. Trump is in many ways a (silent) male protest against the way the society is heading.

Nikola Tesla did predict this many, many years ago. It was also a huge reason why he never married. I don't advocate this line of thought, but it's pretty apparant many males do.

It's worth remembering that during the campaign Trump's numbers did crash after the pussy remarks. He was about ten or fifteen points behind. However he subsequently got more traction due to campaigning in the right places, and Comey reopening and closing the email investigation.

That said it's clear that a large part of his support was a protest vote against some recent trends.
 
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