Tired Of Baldness. Tired Of Ugliness. Tired.

[I.D WALKER]

I don't know what to tell you really, I'm empty inside and low on sleep today. My beloved grandfather passed away today, 92 years old. He was old and had a great and long life but it's still a huge shock to our entire family. And I feel so sorry for my grandmother who's now alone, after being married for almost 60 years. Anyway, I'm getting off track here - just needed to get that off my chest. I think intellect and charm is important, but I'm not going to lie and say that looks isn't.

As an 'unattractive,severely bald man, please accept my condolences to you and your grieving family.
EL,I'm happy your grandfather had a fulfilling life encapsulated with boundless love and loyalty.

 

[EvilLocks]

As an 'unattractive,severely bald man, please accept my condolences to you and your grieving family.
EL,I'm happy your grandfather had a fulfilling life encapsulated with boundless love and loyalty.

Thank you, I.D

 

[DBW]

The first question we need to ask you is what Norwood are you? I'm guessing around NW2?

Edit: Of course he is a good-looking NW2/3, shaved by choice. Wait until you're bald and all that..

Unfortunately the effect doesn't work linearly, and we can't choose what we are attracted to. Some guys go from a 7 to a 2 bald. For someone like that, the quality of women you will be able to attract would be very low, with great defects in both body and soul. As Wolf Pack says, most couples are looks-matched and while you will find exceptions to this it holds true as a trend on average. So as a 2 you won't be able to hope for much more than a 2 or a 3, on average.

Winston Churchill was an exceptional person, and furthermore he belongs to another, less image-conscious era that did not have Facebook or Instagram. Most of us are average, above or below in some cases, and live in an exceptionally image-focused point in time. I will not be doing any great deeds in my life, it's too late for that, and can't rely on them to impart value onto my person.

Our lives do have meaning beyond our appearance but a good one helps your life in too many ways to count. Even in those areas of life that you would think are mainly meritocratic, like professional life. I have seen it close hand as someone who went from barely caring about my appearance to adopting a highly polished look and style. The quality of life is not comparable. Baldness will take me back to my starting point and worse.

As someone who really doesn't suit baldness one iota, I would have to agree. Noone is denying that good-looking bald men can and do exist. Kelly Slater springs immediately to mind, along with some jacked telephone technician I see at my local gym. The problem is that these men are obviously very rare. For most men, balding will damage their appearance to a significant degree. For some, it will destroy it beyond all salvation. I am unfortunate enough to fall into this later category. Balding combined with a large, strangely (and I mean strangely) shaped head knocked me down from maybe a 6 (might be higher, might be lower) to a 2, and this was just in a physical sense. What so many people overlook are the psychological effects of baldness, especially when the male pattern baldness is aggressive and manifests itself at an excessively young age. I was 19/20 when I went completely bald. Combined with a naturally mature looking face and I had most people thinking I was pushing 30, at the very minimum. I was looked at weirdly at parties, people shunned me in bars, where girls had usually been relatively receptive to my advances I now found them cold and unfriendly. I doubt these effects are as severe for many older balding men - these were high school and college social scenes and I looked a decade out of place - but nevertheless, I suspect they are still there. Anyway, the gist of it is that it didn't really matter that I was only 19, I looked 35+ and as a result was (and still am) unable to interact properly with most of my age group. Attracting women in particular, is difficult, nigh on impossible. It's devestating. But that's just one side of it. There's also all the other internal stuff, the self-loathing, multiplying self-esteem issues, loss of identity, social anxiety, depression, in my case chronic and treatment resistant. I don't know if you've googled any of the effects of depression, especially the more serious cases, but they are horrific. Its damaged my memory, my intellect, zapped me of energy, of motivation, of purpose, of joy, of laughter, of pretty much everything that made my life worthwhile. It cost me a girl I really loved. It caused me to drop out of university. And it is continuing to take things away from me everyday. Physically, it hurts to look in the mirror and see a face I don't recognise, that I don't like. But it's the spillover effects that really kill me, because the repercussions of baldness can seep through into the psyche and, from there, bleed their way into every other aspect of a guy's life.

 

[hairblues]

Going from a 7 to a 5 is a big deal mentally and physically. Just "getting a woman" should not be a huge achievement in life and if it is, I don't know what to say. Any average guy can do this easily or even a bit below average. The fall in looks though will leave less choice especially with pretty girls, mental anguish, more effort required with everyone and partial compensatory methods have to be adopted. I say partial as it never truly restores looks. That is the crux of the issue to most people. You look different, you have a visible defect and your value decreases overall. That's the truth.

So a less attractive man has to settle for a less attractive woman? and vice versa.. is this really a problem?
2 lonely people no longer lonely.
just find someone (men and women) who really enjoys sex.
this is more important than the scale number.
someone can look hot and be a total dud in bed.
someone can look average and be freaking hot in bed.

 

[DBW]

Going from a 7 to a 5 is a big deal mentally and physically. Just "getting a woman" should not be a huge achievement in life and if it is, I don't know what to say. Any average guy can do this easily or even a bit below average. The fall in looks though will leave less choice especially with pretty girls, mental anguish, more effort required with everyone and partial compensatory methods have to be adopted. I say partial as it never truly restores looks. That is the crux of the issue to most people. You look different, you have a visible defect and your value decreases overall. That's the truth.

Probably the most crushing truth in this post is those seven little syllables "your value decreases overall". It rips me to shreds. "Love", "Individuality" all that nonsense is exactly that. We are all just commodities, competing in a great sexual market. No feelings, just romantic capital. Products enroute to the highest bidder.

 

[buckthorn]

PM me pics and I will give an objective assessment

I will bury you deep in the woods below the frost line, so the worms shall have no rest in crawling through your decaying organs.

 

[buckthorn]

A relationship born out of compromise is not going to last or end well. Compromises in general will ruin your life.

completely disagree. compromise can be the essence of a good life. I have been very sexually attracted to girls I've dated that were even 3-4 in the face, with great bodies and bad *** personalities. One of the women I have truly loved looked like this. Not very attractive at all. She did, however, have an *** of marble and a vagina that wouldn't quit. So, I fell in love.

"our" only hope is this. and there is nothing wrong with that. Find a bad *** woman with a very average face. Have fun with her. Travel, camp, go on f*cking picnics and sh*t. Then when it's time to get nasty, just turn down the lights and shove your face between her chiseled legs and gently choke her. You will get rock hard, finasteride-induced ED, or NOT BWOI!!!!!

 

[Dante92]

To answer Zircon, I'm around the NW3 stage.

I shaved it all off this summer to see how it looks (see attached image). Its okay but I prefer to have hair.

For the record: I've managed to get dates and laid with no hair.

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Just look how confident he is, no wonder girls fall for him.

 

[resu]

Looks are only an issue if you are those types of persons that have "awareness", others that are more aloof and or less intelligent don't have what it takes to realize anything and are happy living in their ignorant state. Baldness to these types wouldn't affect their happiness and will continue to laugh at the simplest things like a pig shaped cloud or someone slipping and falling on the floor.


Most people here are the awareness types and we all know or are figuring out as we get older how our social interacting really works.

 

[Dante92]

You are a good-looking NW2/3, like I said. Again, noone is saying bald men cannot be attractive, and certainly not when you're shawed by choice at lower NWs. Trouble tends to start at more advanced stages (NW4 is cutoff point) and for those who don't suit the look. Your situation is irrelevant to someone like Exo or DBW.

I seriously doubt anyone here is truly surprised about that. The guy who talks about confidence and shaving is good-looking. Truly shocking.

 

[resu]

It's like a good looking bimbo saying on Twitter that looks don't matter and that other people are shallow for thinking otherwise.

 

[tellersquill]

I'm alright looking, probably around a 7 if I rate myself. You have to remember that some of its self created - you can see I'm in shape which means I work out, teeth white, and wear decent clothes (you cant dress like a slob if you have no hair). All of this helps keep me somewhat attractive.

I'm trying to say a few things here:

1. Having little hair doesn't mean you are ugly
2. Looks are not the be all when it comes to attraction (though it helps).
3. Your life has more value than how handsome you are (or feel).

 

[Dench57]

Those people are simply the worst, they should be publicly executed in front of a crowd of balding, ugly guys.

probably take a duckface selfie while knelt over the guillotine

 

[tellersquill]

But what is this all about, guys?

Is this about attracting the opposite sex and attracting them?

 

[buckthorn]

But what is this all about, guys?

Is this about attracting the opposite sex and attracting them?

dude, i would just not even bother. you have NOOOO idea what you're getting yourself into.

 

[tellersquill]

But there are ugly men who have attractive partners which goes to show that there is more to attraction then looks.

I used to know a really handsome 20 year old virgin who was so because he was so shy (he lost it at 23).

I also know a pretty ugly dude who got laid every week because he was so forward.

 

[tellersquill]

Because I am challenging negative attitudes.

Yes, I agree hair loss isn't fun. I would love to have a full head of hair. But please, we cant get all depressive over it.

 

[resu]

But there are ugly men who have attractive partners which goes to show that there is more to attraction then looks.

I used to know a really handsome 20 year old virgin who was so because he was so shy (he lost it at 23).

I also know a pretty ugly dude who got laid every week because he was so forward.

Yes but it's like winning the lottery, imagine if you know someone that won and now you say to everyone "hey you don't have to work and try hard, just keep betting on the lottery I know a mate who won". It won't work for everyone same way that shaving or even buzzing doesn't.

 

[buckthorn]

Because I am challenging negative attitudes.

Yes, I agree hair loss isn't fun. I would love to have a full head of hair. But please, we cant get all depressive over it.

@tellersquill -

how tall are you?
how old are you?

I think you would have a MUCH different attitude if you weren't a tall, ripped dude with an almost perfect face. no? Imagine if you were 5'6", with a scrawny alien body and a large, weird looking head. Would you feel the same way? or would you be all depressive over it?

 

[tellersquill]

I wasn't trolling for looks. Jesus, I don't mind what you guys think. I think it was you that asked me what Norwood I was an to show you I posted a picture showing that I have no hair and it wasn't the end of the world.

Honestly, the reason I posted was because I know how it can knock your confidence but some people on here seem to have let it shatter who they are as people. Call me crazy, but I thought that was sad for these twenty something guys to be so hard on themselves when I'm sure they have lots going for them.